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So- the folks at Club Champion would disagree with this article and it's findings. Having a recent shaft fitting done for my driver and considering I have a downward AoA with this club, I was fitted for a shaft that was tailored to my teeing the ball lower to reduce the imparting of spin.

Not claiming CC is the be all end all answer - but - I am a bit confused now as I was teeing the ball higher prior to this fitting. I do get more run out from the lower teeing of the ball but can't say accuracy nor distance in total has been significantly affected.

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I actually tee the ball a bit lower since I tend to have a descending AoA. Teeing the ball up puts me in danger of skying the ball and losing considerable ball speed since I hit it too high on the fa

Is there a tee height the fixes the distance problem associated with the ball not flying in a straight line? Asking for a friend...🤣🤣🤣

I hope the USGA keeps in mind (if tee height gets reduced) that not all of us play these pristine, perfectly mowed tee boxes.  Half of the courses I play require different tee heights just to be above

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1 minute ago, BMart007 said:

So- the folks at Club Champion would disagree with this article and it's findings. Having a recent shaft fitting done for my driver and considering I have a downward AoA with this club, I was fitted for a shaft that was tailored to my teeing the ball lower to reduce the imparting of spin.

Not claiming CC is the be all end all answer - but - I am a bit confused now as I was teeing the ball higher prior to this fitting. I do get more run out from the lower teeing of the ball but can't say accuracy nor distance in total has been significantly affected.

A shaft doesn’t spin the ball. It may change your delivery and thus your angle of attack or strike location which in turn could reduce spin. 

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14 minutes ago, B.Boston said:

 

I feel like the tour pro's would just move to shallower faced, more compact designs where they could still get the launch and spin they want, albeit they might not be as forgiving driver heads as they play now, which could lead to more missed FW, but maybe not the drop in distance they're after.  

Bingo. Pros would adjust technique and manufacturers would adjust equipment and the governing bodies will be left, yet again, chasing their tales

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Short tees, tighten the fairway around 320–380, and plant trees near the tee boxes so they have to shape drives if they are longer hitters. 

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Limiting tee height to try to limit distance... From what I have seen in the last 2 weeks, which is when this topic was first raised on "No Putts Given" (Great show, by the way guys), I started to take notice, Pebble Beach and yesterday at Riviera

Both Phil M and Bryson tee theirs up, I would say nearly 2 inches (to the naked eye).... Neither of them hit too many fairways.

Point is, let them hit big.... if they're good enough they'll hit straight. If not, they'll miss big and it's not even worth the extra 10 or 20 yards they might gain.
Just to add, long drivers, like Kyle B etc.... are hitting 2 out of 8 inside the grid (which is generously wide).... See where I'm going with this??.... Risk vs Reward, always been part of the game, my opinion only of course.

Couple of comments: I’d suggest reading up on strokes gained. The 10 to 20 yards you discuss does provide an advantage and it isn’t about hitting fairways. Also
The faster you swing they farther the ball goes and the farther it goes offline. A 1* open clubface will be farther offline at 300 yards than it is at 200 yards; that is how angles work.

While the strategy may not work every hole the percentages play out over time.
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Bingo. Pros would adjust technique and manufacturers would adjust equipment and the governing bodies will be left, yet again, chasing their tales

Most definitely. I heard on a podcast where they addressed going back to persimmon drivers and the feedback from manufacturers was that they wouldn’t be built or designed like they used to thus would get better performance.
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Tee it high and watch it fly!  
 
I'm similar to you.  I'm fairly neutral to maybe 1-2 degrees up, but when I'm not swinging well I have a tendency to hit down and pop it sky high.  
I feel like the tour pro's would just move to shallower faced, more compact designs where they could still get the launch and spin they want, albeit they might not be as forgiving driver heads as they play now, which could lead to more missed FW, but maybe not the drop in distance they're after.  

Pros don’t miss the center of the face so while it would impact most of us, pros and manufacturers would solve the problem and it would be a very short term fix.
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My view on this is that as long as the ball is at a height which is at least at the same height as the sweet spot on your driver then the tee height should not impact on distance. It is of course important that the ball is teed up at the same height each time to help with your muscle memory and consistency.

However, if of course the ball is at a height lower than this then the ball cannot possibly be hit out of the sweet spot, hence impacting distance. I also think that teeing the ball higher encourages golfers to have the swing thought of sweeping the ball off the tee with a shallow arc at the bottom instead of hitting down with a steep angle which would be good for most golfers to gain distance.

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2 hours ago, GolfSpy_THV said:

Let's discuss the MGS latest test about Tee Heights!

 

Article here: https://mygolfspy.com/tee-height-test/

 

What are your thoughts? Does a Tee Height make a difference in your distance or dispersion on the course?

Greetings fellow golfers.  I am a 22 handicap (like we all think, I should be lower) but I get into good grooves, and my tee game has been good the last few years.  I do notice that with these new big head drivers (I play a M1 460CC driver) and the ability to "program" them, I have benefited from teeing the ball up higher on some holes.  I do not do it all the time, because I can't maintain that consistent a swing on every hole, plus, some holes do not call for a super high launch.

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2 minutes ago, Daddysflying said:

I tee lower than a lot of people bc I use the Jim Venetos swing and therefore strike driver with a descending blow-actually increases distance... Don't tell anybody...

Given the same swing speed, an ascending blow would be longer than a descending blow.  
 

Its just science 

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Tee height definitely affects my ball flight.  I have a rather shallow AoA, so using a "4 more yards" tee, has helped me to gain consistency.  I insert the tee so that the collar on the tee shaft is barely touching the ground, or even up 1/16" for normal shots.  I get good height and better carry.  For strong headwinds, I push the tee down so that the collar is i/16" to 1/8" below the surface.  The ball has a more penetrating flight.  

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During my most recent fitting, the fitter actually told me to tee the ball a little lower as I was catching it high on the face almost the border of the crown. But after the new driver came in, I noticed I was hitting too low with the tee lower. I experimented with a higher tee and I was launching the ball much higher and carrying further with more hang time. I read an article or a quote somewhere that a fitter can only fit you for the swing you have that day. I must have been hitting more down on the driver that day because with the higher tee that I am playing now I am impacting just above the center of the face and getting great launch. Waiting for my Mevo to come in so I can actually get measurable data on my launch conditions. I firmly believe teeing it higher has helped me carry farther. Why else would WLD champs tee up like 4 inches above the ground? Whether it would address the distance problem for tour players, I don't think so. Someone said it is time for bifurcation between tour players and regular amateurs and I think that is the right way to go.

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55 minutes ago, Beaumissy said:

I use Martini tees for my driver that are preset for height.  The height appears higher than I used to place a regular tee and I have been more consistent in my driving.

I think it's about the consistency. We can try to get the same height each time, but it's not. Those pre-determined height tees offer the same each time

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