knightsofnii Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Shocked that Ping was dethroned, by itself! I had guessed it would be Ping, Cobra, Callaway, Taylormade/Titleist. So they've done the past winners' battle. Is there room for some "are they really better?" tests? Imagine even the G400 LST beat out the new Pings?!?! 2 Quote RADspeed 10.5, Motore X F3 R Bio Cell 3/4w, Project X PXV 6.0s; AMP 3h 19deg Aldila RIP R. Bio Cell 4h 22.5deg PXV R. Aldila RIP 70 R; King Utility 4i, UST Recoil 780 ES SmacWrap S 2021/22 T200 5-7, T100 8-P (bent 1deg strong), Project X LZ 5.5 CBX-2 50/11 ATV 56/16deg Impact No.3 Align putter Caddie for tracking. Pro V1X balls Previous forum tests: 2019: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus 4 grips, Lynx Black Cat 5-PW. 2020: LX5 Watch. 2021: Impact #3 Align putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xOldBenKenobiX Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 PXG just wow, the value is unbelievable. Hey Honey, I do not need to sell the first born anymore to get a PXG driver. 2 2 Quote My Reviews: 2022 Official Review - Edel SMS Wedges 2021 Official Review - Tommy Armour Impact 3 Putter 2020 Official Member Review - BagBoy Chiller Cart Bag Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme - Unofficial Review by xOldBenKenobiX Honma TR21 4 Wood - Unofficial Review by xOldBenKenobiX Driver - Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme 10.5, UST helium 5 Wood - . TR21 4 Wood, Vizard 20-60 shaft. - AP1 714 5 to PW, with UST Mamiya Recoil 65 DART F3 Graphite shafts. Wedges: SM4 48*, Oil Can 52*, SM5 56* and SM6 58*, Putter: Tommy Armour 2019 Impact 3 TA 2021 Impact 2. Ball: ProV1, Smart Sensors. Shoes: a couple A couple of A couple of Adidas , Yeah I have a shoe addiction. Started at 79mph, finished 1st stage at 91mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmbmtl Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 what happened to Ping ?? How can they be on or near the top for years and then all of a sudden disappear like that ?? very weird Quote GMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHolmes Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Have a Ping G400 and happy with it. Just boughtva G410 plus, thinking maybe I'll be more happy. Was at GG yesterdat getting my irons realigned and hit the Epic Max. Wasnt spectacular for me but that was probably the 50g stiff shaft. Didnt feel real solid. Hit a couple 2 yards longer than my G400.I also hit the Mavrik just because and distance was similar but it felt more solid than the Epic Max. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom c Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/22/2021 at 11:25 AM, bens197 said: Gotta figure cost for fitting, tax and freight. Worst case that was my top number. Many drivers are $550 and upgraded shafts can be $300+. With upgraded options and taxes you can definitely spend upwards of $900. Quote Tom C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one0wonder Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Very happy to see the Ping G410 still hanging in there. Totally surprised at PXG being the bargain. I plan to test the Tour Edge Exotics EXS Pro and the PXG 0211. I am curious as to how much difference there was between 1 and 38 in actual yardage. As always a fabulous test. Quote WITB: Driver - Callaway BB Alpha 9* Kuro Kage 50g. Reg. Shaft - 45" 3 Wood - Callaway X-Hot 3 Deep Pro 14.5* Project X 5.5 5 Wood - Callaway XR 19* Project X 5.5 3 - 5 Tour Edge Exotics EX9 Hybrids 18*, 22*, & 25* w/ AeroTech i80 SteelFiber Reg. Shaft 6 - PW - Callaway Apex w/ AeroTech i80 SteelFiber Reg. Shaft - Standard length & lofts GW, SW & LW - Hogan TK - 49*, 54* & 58* - KBS fst - Wedge flex Putter - Ping - Mid Ketsch Heavy - 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Stuebner Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Very surprised none of the Ping products were not in the top 5 Steve Stuebner Oro Valley, Az Quote I have 11 hole in one's and 1 double eagle. My greatest achievement was back to back eagles on two sucessive par 4's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark S Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I have owned the PXG 0211 for a month and can personally attest to the forgiveness of the club! Given that like many golfers, I don’t hit the optimum area of the club face every time, I find that with the 0211 my miss hits go straighter and further than last year’s Callaway Mavrik, which results in my overall average being 10 yards further with the 0211. I will take straighter and further all day, especially for a $249 driver! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbirdlover Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Last year I bought a TM Sim Max driver and it was the most amazing driver I've ever hit. Didn't like any of the Callys, Pings etc. I'm surprised TM went with milling the face (Cobra?) instead of the previous method with the goop. I think they had a winner with that design. Quote What's In the Bag Callaway Rogue ST Max driver w/reg Xcaliber Mystic 5 shaft Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 3-wood w/reg Fuijikura Air Speeder 40 shaft Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 3-hybrid w/reg KBS 70 shaft Titleist AP1 714 irons 5-PW & GW w/reg Fujikura Atmos shafts Callaway Jaws full toe 60° wedge with Project X Catalyst 80 wedge graphite shaft Odyssey White Hot OG #7 CH stroke lab putter Callaway Org 14 bag I'm not over the hill. I'm on the back nine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyMatt89 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I agree with these results with Titleist finally keeping up with the fastest. Tsi has been amazing and as good as anything out there. Quote Driver: Rogue ST 9 Ventus Black TR 6X Fairway: TSi2 16.5 Ventus Blue 8X Driving Iron: New Level NLU-01 Ventus Black 10TX Irons: Apex TCB 5-AW X100 T100 4 iron X100 Wedges: SM8 54.12 X100 & 60.08 Modus 125 Wedge Putter: Lajosi DD201 Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I'm not all that surprised. The G425 series I tested offered no real gain in distance or accuracy when I tested them last month... and with the "best for me" KBS TD shaft. My understanding is that PXG hired some of PING's best designers/engineers so it appears Bob played the right cards on that move. (In a way, PING should be flattered). A guy here in Yuma I play with just purchased the PXG and I hit it a bit on the range. It has a much more solid feel and muted sound than my G410. I like the looks... very G4XX looking w/o the turbulators. Ultimately, we're splitting atoms here as it pertains to degrees of separation between these makes/models... they are all quality products that will prove better for some and not so for others. 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peejer Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/22/2021 at 7:39 AM, Golfspy_CG2 said: If they are able to stick to the same schedule as the past, I think it will be about 3 to 4 weeks from now. They have to slow roll the information to keep us coming back! Pretty simple marketing strategy. 1 Quote Stealth Driver ZX 3W RadSpeed 3-hybrid P790 (2021) irons (4-PW) CBX-2 GW, SW & LW ER7 Putter ELIXR / Q-Star Tour DIVIDE Revolver XL 1500Li Cart NX9 HD Pro Rangefinder / S20 GPS Watch Launch Monitor Denver, Colorado Home Course: Eisenhower Golf Club, USAF Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Speaking of which, anyone get the Callaway email advertising 47” drivers for those craving distance. Calling it there LD spec. How many folks gonna see the more distance and go out and get these bean poles and try to play with them. Maybe this is how Callaway plans to sell more balls too and more people will be spraying them OB everywhere. 2 2 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 1/2" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue 2021 Phantom X5 35" Ball: Z Star XV (back up balls ProV1 Left Dot, Vero X1, proV1) Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 115 in the MGS Speed Challenge TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees802 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I am still testing drivers in search of a New one. I loved the PXG 0811 Proto and the Ping G425 SFT. Also the Sim 2 was a good one as well. Can’t wait to try the Epic and Titleist. Quote Adams Hybrid Irons, Cleveland wedges 50,53,56,60, Nike Method Putter, Callaway 3 wood, Ping g25 Driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twyatt700 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I am very surprised Ping didn’t rate higher. But that callaway really has me thinking of selling some blood lolSent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote SIM2 8* Diamana S+ Stiff Tipped 1" Mavrik 4W - 16.5* Tensi AV Blue Stiff Tipped 1/2" 818 H1 19* Hybrid AV Tensi Blue Stiff 699U Pro 3 iron HZRDUS Yellow 6.0 699 Pro Black 5-PW KBS Tour 120 Stiff Black RTX Zipcore 48* 54* 58* True Temper Dynamic Gold Spinner Putter: Phantom X5- Current Gamer Spider Tour Black on Black on Black Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Putter Ball: . Pro V1 Currently testing: Sub 70 848 Pro Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Peejer said: They have to slow roll the information to keep us coming back! Pretty simple marketing strategy. Not really. @cnosilcan give you more insight. It takes typically 3-5 weeks of testing for each product and then a couple weeks to compile/verify snd analyze the data. It will take well into late summer to complete every category. 4 Quote TSR2 10.0 HZRDUS Red CB 6.0 TSiR2 10.0 Tensei Blue X ink 55g TSR2 16.5 PX Evenflow 5.5 60 g TSi1 20 and 23 degree hybrids Aldila Ascent Shafts R T200 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM8 48F/54/58 D Grinds Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1X Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreLooper Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/23/2021 at 10:18 AM, pozzit said: I think a great addition would be some tester profiles so you can find a comparable tester to yourself and see what fit them best. A tally of what was the best results per tester doesn't always equal the best on average. Doesn't TrueGolfFit basically do this? You pay the fee, enter some data, and they compare it against their DB of shots to find you the best driver for your stats. If nothing else, it's a $9 donation to keep MGS up and running. 6 Quote What's in the bag: Driver - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Wood (16*) - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Hybrid (19*) - RBZ 4i - PW - D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S ) GW - LW - F8 - N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour105 ( S ) Putter - Craz-e Bag - 2.5 (Black) Ball - TP5X Pix Instagram - @hardcorelooper Twitter - @meovino Facebook - mike.eovino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozzit Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 9 hours ago, HardcoreLooper said: Doesn't TrueGolfFit basically do this? You pay the fee, enter some data, and they compare it against their DB of shots to find you the best driver for your stats. If nothing else, it's a $9 donation to keep MGS up and running. Yea thats a good point. I know I want to go through a Driver fitting at the beginning of this year and was going to use TrueGolfFit with that as well to help narrow down my suggestions. I do think it would be good to have a tally for the testers of what was their best fit. 1 Quote Driver: Ben Hogan GS53 3W: Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead 2 2i: Maltby KE4 FDI 4-PW: Maltby TS-1 - C-Taper 120g 50º: Maltby TSW 56º: Cleveland RTX-2 60º: Maltby Tour Grind MG Putter: Odyssey White Hot RX 2-ball Ball: Snell MTB X Other: Arccos (first year lets see how it goes) Handicap: 5.9 - Best Score: 73 (1 over) Bryan Park - Players Course, Greensboro NC -2020 2020 MGS Forum Tester - Ben Hogan GS53 Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Not really. [mention=15174]cnosil[/mention]can give you more insight. It takes typically 3-5 weeks of testing for each product and then a couple weeks to compile/verify snd analyze the data. It will take well into late summer to complete every category. @peejerI am one of the most wanted testers so here is my take. The testing just takes time based on the available facilities and tester availability. The current facility has 2 hitting bays and 1 putting green. Each session takes approximately 1 and there are roughly 6-10 session per club type and 10-20 testers. There are also space limitations on how many clubs can be on the facility floor to perform the testing. This results in a one to two months of testing per club type. Ongoing at the same time as club testing they are doing soft good testing which takes away additional space. That is just the part of what the guys do, they are writing the articles, working with OEMs, doing smaller lab tests (like the tee test), measuring specs, and coordinating the schedules with all the testers. They also have testers that drop out or aren’t able to provide usable data which means they need to add another tester and do some catch-up. Once all the data is collected it is reviewed and analyzed. Breaking it down by swings speed isn’t cut and dry either since testers on the speed border line may have clubs or even swings above or below the line. Lots of time and effort goes into the planning, execution, and release of each test. I am sure they would like to go faster but there are limitations that prevent that from happening. 6 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: mFGP2 Backups: TM-180, Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787, Directed Force 2.1 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoole22 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 8:35 PM, rbsiedsc said: Speaking of which, anyone get the Callaway email advertising 47” drivers for those craving distance. Calling it there LD spec. How many folks gonna see the more distance and go out and get these bean poles and try to play with them. Maybe this is how Callaway plans to sell more balls too and more people will be spraying them OB everywhere. I noticed that, but though it was weird that they didn't offer any lower lofts. I only saw that you could buy the 9 or 10.5 degree heads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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