dlow206 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Specifically when playing on the course, do you have an external focus or internal focus? For example, when I play, I usually have some sort of swing thoughs (internal focus) such as how my arms should move, how i should rotate, etc. I am thinking about switching to having an external focus. I find that when I have too many swing thoughts on the course, it usually doesn't help or just makes things even worse. Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment
Popular Post DaveP043 Posted March 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, dlow206 said: Specifically when playing on the course, do you have an external focus or internal focus? For example, when I play, I usually have some sort of swing thoughs (internal focus) such as how my arms should move, how i should rotate, etc. I am thinking about switching to having an external focus. I find that when I have too many swing thoughts on the course, it usually doesn't help or just makes things even worse. I don't have a lot of different swing thoughts in general, but on the course I'd say I do things in order. I'll make some kind of rehearsal, a short practice swing, a slow-motion swing, an exaggerated drill, but something with a specific internal focus. But when I get to the ball, its all external focus, thoughts about the target, or visualization of the shot I want to hit. edingc, Kenny B, silver & black and 8 others 11 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment
Chip Strokes Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 i usually think about how good my cigar tastes, or what i want for dinner, or if it’ll be nice enough tomorrow to take the motorcycle to work. in between letting all those easy thoughts roll around in my head, i try to hit the ball as solidly as i can. the time to think is during practice. dlow206, silver & black, Larryd3 and 1 other 4 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment
MaxEntropy Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, dlow206 said: Specifically when playing on the course, do you have an external focus or internal focus? For example, when I play, I usually have some sort of swing thoughs (internal focus) such as how my arms should move, how i should rotate, etc. I am thinking about switching to having an external focus. I find that when I have too many swing thoughts on the course, it usually doesn't help or just makes things even worse. When I'm hitting the ball decently, I'm similar to @DaveP043. When things are a struggle, I have trouble quieting all the swing thoughts that might correct things that could be going wrong. dlow206, Kenny B and GolfSpy_SHARK 3 Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment
edingc Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I typically float between internal and external focuses. I've had really good rounds where I've been working with a simple swing thought, and likewise I've had really good rounds where all I did was focus on a branch or leaf or another tiny target and visualize my shot. I have found that my swing is not consistent enough to always only have external focus. I have years of bad habits/wrong movements that come back in a hurry. One thing I need to do a better job of this year is creating a system like @DaveP043 mentions - a setup routine to get the bullet points out of the way, and then a switch to a more results-oriented focus as I'm readying to hit the ball. Golf Sidekick's thinking vs. play box concept comes to mind here as what I'm trying to accomplish. Shapotomous, HardcoreLooper, sirchunksalot and 3 others 6 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment
GolfSpy BOS Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Count me in the external group. Once I’m on the course I try to not think too much about swing thoughts and just use the swing I have that day. that being said if I need a certain shot shape I will rehearse it but still think more of what I want the ball to do rather than a certain arm or body position. I play my best when I keep my thoughts simple and a calm demeanor. Shapotomous, Chip Strokes, GolfSpy_SHARK and 4 others 7 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 GG talks about this in his course. He determines the shot he’s going to hit, takes a swing to develop a feel turns that feel into a swing. Then he goes external and enjoys the course, views and so on. Then when he’s ready to hit the shot he goes super internal in a Jason day like manner then approaches the ball and hits. No swing thoughts at this point, no more practice swings since you have already built that in with the feel swing This is something I’m going to be using this season. The mental game section of the course is pretty good. GolfSpy BOS and GolfSpy_SHARK 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
cnosil Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 When I am playing, it is external focus. I am picking targets and visualizing the shot. I don't think mechanics other than controlling my tempo. I don't believe you should be thinking how to swing once you are on the course playing; you body should know what to do. Note, if you are practicing on the course you can have internal thoughts. Kenny B, GolfSpy BOS and GolfSpy_SHARK 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
CRW Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) External. If anything, I think of the golf club as a Jai alai “cesta” and that the ball is already attached to it. I’m just throwing the ball to the target. You could also think of one of those tennis ball launchers for dogs. Edited March 2, 2021 by crw Quote Ogio Woode 8 Hybrid Stand Bag PXG 0811 X Gen4 @ 6* - Fujikura Motore X F3 7X PXG 0211 @ 13.5* - Fujikura Motore X F1 8X PXG 0311 XP Gen3 3i-PW - PX LZ 6.5 PXG 0311 Forged 54/60 - PX LZ 6.5 Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2 Link to comment
dlow206 Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 I especially need to focus on external thoughts in the short game. I swear every time I have a swing thought on a pitch i hit it super thin over the green. HardcoreLooper, Shapotomous, Kenny B and 3 others 6 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment
Chip Strokes Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, dlow206 said: I especially need to focus on external thoughts in the short game. I swear every time I have a swing thought on a pitch i hit it super thin over the green. just a suggestion, but have you tried **no** thoughts? cnosil, Kenny B, GolfSpy_SHARK and 1 other 4 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment
dlow206 Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said: just a suggestion, but have you tried **no** thoughts? Hmm, then my mind would think “don’t have any thoughts” cnosil, GolfSpy_SHARK, Shapotomous and 1 other 1 3 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment
Chip Strokes Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, dlow206 said: Hmm, then my mind would think “don’t have any thoughts” you’re doing so much work to your swing, you have to give your body a chance to take over and execute what you’ve been working on. otherwise your swing on the course will always be forced. swinging a golf club is an athletic motion. you can’t think about how to be athletic. cnosil, GolfSpy_SHARK, silver & black and 1 other 4 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment
Chip Strokes Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, dlow206 said: Hmm, then my mind would think “don’t have any thoughts” also this is far less damning than “well i need my hands to be here, and my hips should be doing this, yeah that feels ok, time to release the club head now...” it’s kinda like tryin to f*ck but narrating the whole thing. all the romance is gone, baby. GolfSpy_SHARK, Larryd3 and silver & black 3 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, dlow206 said: I especially need to focus on external thoughts in the short game. I swear every time I have a swing thought on a pitch i hit it super thin over the green. I struggle with around the green thoughts especially when I’m struggling. All the other facets I’m very external, get up and hit the shot (routine) I’m rarely taking practice swings unless it’s an odd lie but besides that I’m soaking in the course.....until I’m green side (except sand oddly enough). I also enjoy chit chatting on the course with whom ever that typically really removes any internal thoughts on course related to swing mechanics Kenny B and Chip Strokes 2 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment
HardcoreLooper Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 For me, it depends. If I'm swinging reasonably well, my focus is totally external. I'm thinking about the shot I'm going to hit and where I want it to go. I really like the "think box/play box" from Nilsson and Marriott. Their books are really, really good. When I'm hitting it left of left, I'm trying to "recall the feeling" of hitting a slice (thanks Adam Young). I'm probably playing like garbage, and I'm trying to keep from killing people in neighboring fairways. Once every few years, I don't think about anything when I play. Those are pretty special rounds, but they're super-rare. Most of the time, it's tough to turn off the voices in my head, so I'm trying to keep them from being too damaging. cnosil, GolfSpy_SHARK and Kenny B 3 Quote What's in the bag: Driver - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Wood (13.5*) - 980F 4 Wood (18*) - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Hybrid (19*) - RBZ 4i - PW - D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S ) 52* - CBX 58* - CBX Full Face 2 Putter - Craz-e Bag - 2.5 (Blue) Ball - AVX Instagram - @hardcorelooper Twitter - @meovino Facebook - mike.eovino Link to comment
Kenny B Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, dlow206 said: I especially need to focus on external thoughts in the short game. I swear every time I have a swing thought on a pitch i hit it super thin over the green. No swing thoughts when playing , other than how to play a particular shot. This is especially true for short game shots. If you are thinking about swing thoughts for a pitch shot, then you haven't practiced that shot enough. It should be automatic, and you should trust it. A pitch shot is a feel shot. You can't expect to pull off a feel shot of any kind without a lot of practice. It's extremely difficult to eliminate swing thoughts when you hit a bad shot. You are trying to figure out what you did wrong. Sometimes you just hit a bad shot; pros do it; accept it and move on. Once you start down the path of trying to analyze your swing based on a couple of shots while playing, the round is lost. Go to the range. I struggle with this too. It's probably the main reason I have been sucking lately. I think it's excuse #8. Today, I hit one of my better drives on our #1 handicap hole and had a PW into the green. Usually, I have a 7i or 8i and if the wind is blowing... a hybrid. The shot is over water with bunkers left and right and depending on the angle, a bunker long too. My last thought was the nice shot I made with my PW on the range before I played. I hit a great shot; looked good in the air. It was on the green... barely; still a par. GolfSpy_SHARK, Shapotomous, HardcoreLooper and 2 others 5 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment
Micah T Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 For me, swing thoughts during a round are a no-no; with the exception of when I’m trying to hit an exaggerated shot( hook/slice around a tree, punch or flop) It’s taken me awhile to not be results oriented while playing golf: if I executed what I intended, I accept the outcome and move on. When I focus on any one outcome, good or bad, my game starts to unravel. I use “the decision box” on course; I evaluate my lie, choose my shot and select my club in the “think” section, practice my swing and visualize the shot I want in the “feel” section, and then I set up to the ball and swing - no thoughts, I just go before tension sets in.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Shapotomous, MaxEntropy, Kenny B and 3 others 6 Quote Driver - Cobra LtDxLS 3 Wood - Ping g410 LST 2iron - Titleist U505 Irons - Ping i59 Wedges - Vokey Sm9 Putter - Mizuno Mcraft IV Link to comment
dlow206 Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Chip Strokes said: you’re doing so much work to your swing, you have to give your body a chance to take over and execute what you’ve been working on. otherwise your swing on the course will always be forced. swinging a golf club is an athletic motion. you can’t think about how to be athletic. Yeah, im going to give external thoughts a try. I don't think my internal swing thoughts ever have any benefit whatsoever on the course. Some of the best series of shots that I have hit on a course was while I was on a conference call, and was trying to pay attention to the call in case someone asked me a question. Vegan_Golfer_PNW, Larryd3, GolfSpy_SHARK and 3 others 6 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment
Shapotomous Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I picture the shot I want to hit, then I have 1 or maybe two swing thoughts to execute the shot for the practice swings, then I only have a setup check for the shot before picturing it in my head again. Any more than that and I am practicing and not playing. Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment
DiscipleofPenick Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I do my best to keep my mind on external thoughts. Keep my mind off of golf, until it's time to hit the next shot. Look at the surroundings, listen to the animals, and talk with whoever is out there with me. When it comes time to focus I keep the swing thought simple, and never a mechanical thought. Usually it's just Take Dead Aim or Hit It Hard.Take Dead Aim GolfSpy_SHARK and Chip Strokes 1 1 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment
Shapotomous Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 11 hours ago, dlow206 said: I especially need to focus on external thoughts in the short game. I swear every time I have a swing thought on a pitch i hit it super thin over the green. My only swing thought on chip shots around the green during the practice swing is ACCELERATE through the ball. Then i look at the target landing spot and focus on that. cnosil 1 Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment
higherplane Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 This year, 2021, I am going to force myself to start with the Thinking box- external with environment, visualization and loosening swing; then Playing box, internal with at least one real practice swing, better alignment and shot. Quote Driver - 2023 Callaway Paradym 9.0, 3 Wood -2022 Rogue ST Max, 3 Hybrid Mavrik, 2017 X-forged 4-PW, Wedges Callaway 50-56-60, Putter Odyssey Toulon Chicago Link to comment
StrokerAce Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, higherplane said: This year, 2021, I am going to force myself to start with the Thinking box- external with environment, visualization and loosening swing; then Playing box, internal with at least one real practice swing, better alignment and shot. Sounds like Vision54 and Pia Nilsson. Golf Dawg 1 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment
DiscipleofPenick Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Sounds like Vision54 and Pia Nilsson. Think box-Play box is the way to go. Take Dead Aim GolfSpy_SHARK and Golf Dawg 2 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment
dlow206 Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 14 hours ago, Kenny B said: No swing thoughts when playing , other than how to play a particular shot. This is especially true for short game shots. If you are thinking about swing thoughts for a pitch shot, then you haven't practiced that shot enough. It should be automatic, and you should trust it. A pitch shot is a feel shot. You can't expect to pull off a feel shot of any kind without a lot of practice. It's extremely difficult to eliminate swing thoughts when you hit a bad shot. You are trying to figure out what you did wrong. Sometimes you just hit a bad shot; pros do it; accept it and move on. Once you start down the path of trying to analyze your swing based on a couple of shots while playing, the round is lost. Go to the range. I struggle with this too. It's probably the main reason I have been sucking lately. I think it's excuse #8. Today, I hit one of my better drives on our #1 handicap hole and had a PW into the green. Usually, I have a 7i or 8i and if the wind is blowing... a hybrid. The shot is over water with bunkers left and right and depending on the angle, a bunker long too. My last thought was the nice shot I made with my PW on the range before I played. I hit a great shot; looked good in the air. It was on the green... barely; still a par. I definitely need to get away from swing thoughts during pitch shots. Typically, if I just focus on the pitch shot i envision, where i want to land the ball, etc., it usually turns out decent to really good. I don't know why i think i should try some new magic approach i have in my head and i should try it for the first time on the course GolfSpy_SHARK and Kenny B 1 1 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment
DiscipleofPenick Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Pitch shots and chipping I just tell myself to hit a good one. When I try to get cute and hit the perfect pitch it's when problems begin. Take Dead Aim Kenny B, GolfSpy_SHARK and MaxEntropy 3 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment
Chip Strokes Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 FWIW, i just watched a video where Beau Hossler says he can't play without a swing thought in his head. he's a lot better at golf than i am. GolfSpy_SHARK and HardcoreLooper 2 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment
Middler Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I play best with 0-1 (internal) swing thoughts at a time, my goal is always to make them completely instinctive. More than that and I play much worse, I’ve tried it. I don’t have an external focus, all that is set with my aim, club choice, etc - and I’m deliberately not thinking about anything external once I address the ball. I’ve always ignored water, traps and where good/bad misses are once I address the ball, I factor all that in with aim, club choice, etc. But then I’m not very good so maybe I’m doing it all wrong... Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize Evnroll EV5.3 Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, Payntr X 001 F (Mesh) Link to comment
russtopherb Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I always focus on the target, that's what I picture in my head during the swing. I have a trigger to start my downswing but that's more of a feel than a thought. The whole time I'm starting my backswing I'm envisioning where I want the ball to go and what I want the flight to look like. Do they always match up? Heck NO. But it keeps me from getting stuck in my head out on the course. Kenny B and Vegan_Golfer_PNW 2 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment
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