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8 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

FWIW, i just watched a video where Beau Hossler says he can't play without a swing thought in his head.  he's a lot better at golf than i am.

Just goes to show that like every other aspect of the game, there's no one right way to do things.  How many thoughts does he have when he's getting over the ball?  I'd be surprised if it's more than one.

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17 minutes ago, HardcoreLooper said:

Just goes to show that like every other aspect of the game, there's no one right way to do things.  How many thoughts does he have when he's getting over the ball?  I'd be surprised if it's more than one.

absolutely.  there’s never one right way.

i won’t paraphrase him from memory because i don’t want to mess it up. when i’m in front of my computer tomorrow i’ll find the video and link it here

it was a simple cue for sure, i just found it interesting that he said “i can’t play without a swing thought in my head”

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I do a few things. 

- I give myself an attack plan when I get to each new hole. I don't mind of the plan goes wrong cause that's just golf. But that plan means I'm thinking about what sets me up for success. 

- I break things into zones. Beyond 10 feet from the ball, im appreciating the day, the drink, the company. 10 to 5 feet, I'm asking myself how I want to play the shot. 5 feet and under, I'm trying not to think, just feel and execute.

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@dlow206, thought of this thread this morning when I was listening to the latest Fit for Golf podcast by Mike Carroll.  His guest was John Novosel, the guy behind Tour Tempo Tones, who explained that as a general rule most elite ball strikers have a 3 to 1 ratio in terms of speed of backswing vs speed of downswing.  He went on to share that most amateurs are shocked by that and fearful of the perceived speed of that kind of backswing, largely based on fears of accuracy issues if they depart from a "low and slow" backswing.

The reason the conversation reminded me of this thread is that Novosel (and Carroll) opined that one of the benefits of this quicker tempo is that it eliminates the time for conscious thought.  In other words, if you train yourself to operate at that kind of tempo, you eliminate conscious inputs that are more than likely getting in the way of making an athletic movement and just playing golf.

Take it for what it's worth, but I found it fascinating and relevant to your post.

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The only thing I think about is ball position when setting up and my intended target line. Nothing in the swing, it's just automatic. 

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two different approaches from two different pros:

Beau Hossler (8:30 mark)

 

Graeme McDowell (18:20 mark)

 

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