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So my local PGA SS has the 410 on sale for $399. The catch is that they don't have any demo clubs now that the 425 is out so I can test the various shaft options. They have the Evenflow Black, Tour 65 &75, the Alta and the Tensei Orange. I swing between 105-112 so I know it is a stiff, but I'm not what to go with. I think the Evenflow is a bit too heavy for my liking and I am leaning towards the Tour 65. I've read the Tensei has a high launch angle, but I am concerned about spin. Any thoughts or advice is welcome.

My other option is to ditch the 410, pay an extra $100-$150 and get a 2021 driver and test the shafts.

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ping.png.7c5862342023c35b77c4616604806e90.png Driver: 425LST w / KBS TD60 X-Stiff

callaway-golf-vector-logo.png.493ab23d387785f73cfea313e1af01a6.png 3-Wood: Callaway Rogue

596048109_ScreenShot2021-02-28at3_28_30PM.png.6dfa8b67ed327055667700b4ef19afd1.png Sub70 699Pro: 5&6 Irons w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short

596048109_ScreenShot2021-02-28at3_28_30PM.png.6dfa8b67ed327055667700b4ef19afd1.png Sub70 639CB: 7-PW w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short

596048109_ScreenShot2021-02-28at3_28_30PM.png.6dfa8b67ed327055667700b4ef19afd1.pngHybrid - 939X: with Proforce V2 Stiff

1884238425_Titleistlogo.png.90c97c2fbcb19171e8ef7dc60bee0fc4.pngSM7 50* & 56*

167032231_GELlogo.jpeg.060ddfab800aed4c79ddd5d4ccc47ee0.jpegPutter: OPAL

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Of course everyone is different - you saw the MWD results - the 410 LST more than held it's own against anything out there for this season - I would have to thing that whatever little bit extra you'd be getting from another driver is not worth the $100 to $150 you'd be spending.  If it's the 410 Plus though I would certainly think long and hard.  I have been disappointed with mine - should have stuck with the 400 LST. 

 

Good luck

Taylor Made Stealth 10.5  Aldila Ascent Red R flex

Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

Wilson D7 forged 5-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

Edison Wedges 54 and 59 KBS Tour Graphite 80's

EVNRoll ER 5

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Still on that elusive hunt for a 3 wood that I'm able to hit - I don't know why, I crush the 5 wood and it's really a 4 wood anyway. 

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25 minutes ago, revkev said:

Of course everyone is different - you saw the MWD results - the 410 LST more than held it's own against anything out there for this season - I would have to thing that whatever little bit extra you'd be getting from another driver is not worth the $100 to $150 you'd be spending.  If it's the 410 Plus though I would certainly think long and hard.  I have been disappointed with mine - should have stuck with the 400 LST. 

 

Good luck

Thanks for the feedback. They have lots of options with the plus, a decent amount for the LST and a few SFT.  What was it about the Plus that's given you problems?

ping.png.7c5862342023c35b77c4616604806e90.png Driver: 425LST w / KBS TD60 X-Stiff

callaway-golf-vector-logo.png.493ab23d387785f73cfea313e1af01a6.png 3-Wood: Callaway Rogue

596048109_ScreenShot2021-02-28at3_28_30PM.png.6dfa8b67ed327055667700b4ef19afd1.png Sub70 699Pro: 5&6 Irons w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short

596048109_ScreenShot2021-02-28at3_28_30PM.png.6dfa8b67ed327055667700b4ef19afd1.png Sub70 639CB: 7-PW w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short

596048109_ScreenShot2021-02-28at3_28_30PM.png.6dfa8b67ed327055667700b4ef19afd1.pngHybrid - 939X: with Proforce V2 Stiff

1884238425_Titleistlogo.png.90c97c2fbcb19171e8ef7dc60bee0fc4.pngSM7 50* & 56*

167032231_GELlogo.jpeg.060ddfab800aed4c79ddd5d4ccc47ee0.jpegPutter: OPAL

vicegolf_logo.png.26dae2f1802c046450d6ce62d44baf39.png VICE - Pro Plus

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Don’t judge flex by swing speed; that is an outdated way to pick a shaft.

That said it is impossible for us to tell you what shaft or head since we don’t know you launch conditions. The only way to know which shaft to pick is to hit them.

That said the ping tour shafts always seem to get great reviews

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Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
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I was among the G410 Official Testers (G410P) and still playing it.  I also recently tested the G425 series against my G410, as part of a bag fitting, and none offered any gains in distance, ball flight, or accuracy.  Of the three versions, the LST performed best for me.  

What did offer gain in distance and slightly less dispersion was upgrading the Alta CB Red 55S with a KBS TD 50 Cat 2 shaft.  The H2H test above was done using this shaft on the various driver heads.  If you haven't done so, ask to get some LM data at the PGASS using the various heads and shafts.

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:ping-small: G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver 

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w

:srixon-small:  ZX5 Irons 4-AW 

:ping-small: Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW   (removed from double secret probation 😍)

:EVNROLL: ER5v Putter  (Evnroll ER5v Official Review)

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Pupini said:

So my local PGA SS has the 410 on sale for $399. The catch is that they don't have any demo clubs now that the 425 is out so I can test the various shaft options. They have the Evenflow Black, Tour 65 &75, the Alta and the Tensei Orange. I swing between 105-112 so I know it is a stiff, but I'm not what to go with. I think the Evenflow is a bit too heavy for my liking and I am leaning towards the Tour 65. I've read the Tensei has a high launch angle, but I am concerned about spin. Any thoughts or advice is welcome.

My other option is to ditch the 410, pay an extra $100-$150 and get a 2021 driver and test the shafts.

Spend the extra money and get a fitting and peace of mind.

:ping-small: G410 LST 9* VA Nemesys 65X

:ping-small: G425 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X

:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X

:mizuno-small: MP20 HMB 4 - Tour AD 95X

:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-PW OBAN CT 115X(-)

:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 50F - 54S - 60D

:ping-small: PLD Milled Anser 2

:titelist-small: ProV1

 

 

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22 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Don’t judge flex by swing speed; that is an outdated way to pick a shaft.

That said it is impossible for us to tell you what shaft or head since we don’t know you launch conditions. The only way to know which shaft to pick is to hit them.

That said the ping tour shafts always seem to get great reviews

 

17 minutes ago, jlukes said:

Spend the extra money and get a fitting and peace of mind.

These two hit the nail on the head 

Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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Also, the shafts in the 425 use the same adapter as the 410... so you should be able to swap those out to find a fit...

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Driver:   :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4

FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5° - Fujikura Pro

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

 

These two hit the nail on the head 

Thanks so much for the feedback. I think I will go ahead and buy the LST with a tour shaft. I will take the $100 I am saving on the club and put it towards a fitting. 

ping.png.7c5862342023c35b77c4616604806e90.png Driver: 425LST w / KBS TD60 X-Stiff

callaway-golf-vector-logo.png.493ab23d387785f73cfea313e1af01a6.png 3-Wood: Callaway Rogue

596048109_ScreenShot2021-02-28at3_28_30PM.png.6dfa8b67ed327055667700b4ef19afd1.png Sub70 699Pro: 5&6 Irons w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short

596048109_ScreenShot2021-02-28at3_28_30PM.png.6dfa8b67ed327055667700b4ef19afd1.png Sub70 639CB: 7-PW w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short

596048109_ScreenShot2021-02-28at3_28_30PM.png.6dfa8b67ed327055667700b4ef19afd1.pngHybrid - 939X: with Proforce V2 Stiff

1884238425_Titleistlogo.png.90c97c2fbcb19171e8ef7dc60bee0fc4.pngSM7 50* & 56*

167032231_GELlogo.jpeg.060ddfab800aed4c79ddd5d4ccc47ee0.jpegPutter: OPAL

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Thank you again everyone for the advice. I decided to buy the 410 Plus with the tour 65 shaft. While I was there I signed-up for a driver fitting knowing that I can return the club for credit within 90 days if I don't like it or if there is one that is much better suited to my swing.

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ping.png.7c5862342023c35b77c4616604806e90.png Driver: 425LST w / KBS TD60 X-Stiff

callaway-golf-vector-logo.png.493ab23d387785f73cfea313e1af01a6.png 3-Wood: Callaway Rogue

596048109_ScreenShot2021-02-28at3_28_30PM.png.6dfa8b67ed327055667700b4ef19afd1.png Sub70 699Pro: 5&6 Irons w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short

596048109_ScreenShot2021-02-28at3_28_30PM.png.6dfa8b67ed327055667700b4ef19afd1.png Sub70 639CB: 7-PW w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short

596048109_ScreenShot2021-02-28at3_28_30PM.png.6dfa8b67ed327055667700b4ef19afd1.pngHybrid - 939X: with Proforce V2 Stiff

1884238425_Titleistlogo.png.90c97c2fbcb19171e8ef7dc60bee0fc4.pngSM7 50* & 56*

167032231_GELlogo.jpeg.060ddfab800aed4c79ddd5d4ccc47ee0.jpegPutter: OPAL

vicegolf_logo.png.26dae2f1802c046450d6ce62d44baf39.png VICE - Pro Plus

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Have the g410 SFT, and it came with the Alta 55. Felt a little whippy to me, and my SS is only 80 mph. Got me an Graffaloy ProLaunch 65 reg. flex, and I love it. Butt trimmed it to 43.5", glued on the shaft adapter, put on a new grip, and headed to the range. I have kept the 55, as I am a senior, and if my swing gets slower, I will put the 55 back in.

Driver-Ping g410 SFT, 3W-Callaway Diablo Octane, Hybrids-Snake Eyes Viper 18*+ 21*, Irons-GigaGolf Reva Hybrid Irons 24*- 46*, Wedges-Cleveland CBX2's 50*54*58*, Putter-Cleveland Huntington Beach Soft 11c

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On 3/3/2021 at 9:40 PM, Pupini said:

Thank you again everyone for the advice. I decided to buy the 410 Plus with the tour 65 shaft. While I was there I signed-up for a driver fitting knowing that I can return the club for credit within 90 days if I don't like it or if there is one that is much better suited to my swing.

Good move and good luck.

Rick

 

 

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Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr R2

5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous Vista Pro R2

Irons; Ping G710 6-GW, Recoil 460 R2

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