BADFanBoi Scotty Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I'm curious, does anyone know of any studies on the face technologies of these (And similar) putters? We could compare the putter tests, but specifically tying the face technologies/ deliberately hitting offline/ off centre etc. Quote LTDx LS 9*D, HZRDUS Green HC 60g 6.0, 45" 4g + 12g weight King LTD @ 14.5* HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 42.5" King LTD @ 17.5*, HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 40.5"/ 2022 Utility Iron 2 @ 17*, Ventus Black 10x, 39.25" 2022 Utility Iron 4 OL @ 20* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" EQ1-NX OL 5i-PW Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" Cobra SBOL 48*, 52*, 56* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" C-Series DW Armlock Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 There have been some; mostly done by each manufacturer. The best one that I can't find anymore was a video done by Ping when they had their face milling. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I can't say anything about specific data that I've collected, or comparisons to other brands that you've named, but I can definitely confirm that the Cleveland SOFT tech works. As long as the putter face is square, off-center hits seem to still roll true and loss of distance is weirdly minimal. I've holed 10'+ putts hit off the toe more often than I'd like to admit or deserve. Immediately you get that "damn I hit off the toe" feeling, but the ball seems to roll just like you centered it. the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get.. Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I have both, an Evnroll ER-6 and a Clevelaland Huntington Beach Soft 11. Never thought about comparing the two. HmmmmSent from my iPad using MyGolfSpyCobra Speedzone Extreme (11.5*) w/ Mitsubishi Tense av Blue Regular; 3W & 5W Cobra King F8 w/ Mitsubishi Tense ck Blue Regular shafts; Tour Edge CBX119 22* Hybrid w/Project X Evenflo Regular shaft; Wilson Staff D-7 5-PW + GW + SW w/UST Mamiya Recoil 460 Regular graphite shafts; Cleveland RTX Zipcore LW(58*) w/DG Spinner shaft. Putter: 33” EVNROLL E6R Bag: Cobra Ultralight Cart bag, Peaccoat Blue. NRJyzr and Vegan_Golfer_PNW 2 Quote Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I've been using Evnroll putters exclusively for several years (ER2 then ER5B) and the face tech works IME. That said, the Cleveland HB Soft putter face tech is the same concept with a different pattern, so I suspect they both handle off center alignment and pace similarly. I'd choose based on other factors between the two but YMMV. I had a Tyne2 and the face tech, similar to Cleveland, is less pronounced and I don't think it was as effective as Evnrolls FWIW. Some of the face tech copiers look to be more window dressing than Evnroll and Cleveland? Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize Evnroll EV5.3 Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, Payntr X 001 F (Mesh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Adding more on the ping test that I saw. What the video showed was that with the groove technology ball speeds in the center were down when compared to non Evnroll type grooves. As the ball missed from the center ball speed increased. This is because there is less surface at the center of the groove pattern therefore less energy is transferred to the ball as you move toward the toe and heel there is more mass so more ball speed. This causes balls that are hit offcenter to go the same distance as center strikes. The other aspect of the grooves that is sometimes discussed is line correction. To my knowledge evnroll is the only what I will callMainstream company to state this. I think pyramid putters also claims line correction. Since heel and toe hits tend to close and open the face at impact the grooves are supposed to directThe ball back toward the target line. Other than the two mentioned companies I haven’t seen and independent testing that shows line correction Vegan_Golfer_PNW, Middler and aerospace_ray 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puttingmatt Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 I use the evnroll ER2 and the ER5B putters. These work ,period. YMMV, play what works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 So, I have been gaming my E6-R so I benched it for a week and put the Cleveland Huntington Beach Soft 11 in play. My thoughts.....The HB Soft 11 rolled well, especially on very long putts, often lipping out, leaving me a second putt to finish. The issue I had was I missed on several short putts as well leaving a second tap in. I used several different setups to putt off the toe, center & heel. They all traveled the same distance.My EVNROLL E6-R usually gets several one putts per round, sometimes long putts sometimes short. Overall, I am going back to my E6-R as it yields fewer putts per round.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 So do the millings on Scotty's and Toulon's help with this as well or are those just window dressing and I should just buy a damn SOFT or ER? Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: TBD Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said: So do the millings on Scotty's and Toulon's help with this as well or are those just window dressing and I should just buy a damn SOFT or ER? No, they don't provide any roll correction; they are just a milling pattern and mostly impact feel. Another option would be the Bobby Grace insert. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, cnosil said: No, they don't provide any roll correction; they are just a milling pattern and mostly impact feel. Another option would be the Bobby Grace insert. So you are saying I should buy your ER Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: TBD Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said: So you are saying I should buy your ER Or mine! Vegan_Golfer_PNW 1 Quote What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 minute ago, rbsiedsc said: So you are saying I should buy your ER The question is what are you trying to accomplish? If you struggle with off center contact then a putter with groove control can provide some benefit to help even out ball speed. Some options are Bobby Grace, Cleveland, Older Ping putters with the TR groove face, and EvnRoll. There are other putters with groove technology that are supposed to provide better roll like TaylorMade, Sik, and Yes!. Other putters have milling or inserts that are designed to change the feel but don't really have any performance benefit. TR1PTIK 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 minute ago, cnosil said: The question is what are you trying to accomplish? If you struggle with off center contact then a putter with groove control can provide some benefit to help even out ball speed. Some options are Bobby Grace, Cleveland, Older Ping putters with the TR groove face, and EvnRoll. There are other putters with groove technology that are supposed to provide better roll like TaylorMade, Sik, and Yes!. Other putters have milling or inserts that are designed to change the feel but don't really have any performance benefit. So I like the milled concept. My old gamer before the Las Vegas was a TM Corza mallet that I did really well with, just wanted to try a milled putter and then got hooked and don't know if i can ever go back to an insert, unless it is the OG White Hot. I don't know if just having a larger grip (currently OS odyssey grip, whereas my TM was SS Slim 3.0) or progressive face technology would help more. Also wanting to try a toe hang style just to see what it would do with my stoke as I feel maybe I adjusted my stroke to be more SB/ST due to the type of putter I use. Basically I am over thinking everything because I don't want to think about the stresses of work right now Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: TBD Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said: So I like the milled concept. My old gamer before the Las Vegas was a TM Corza mallet that I did really well with, just wanted to try a milled putter and then got hooked and don't know if i can ever go back to an insert, unless it is the OG White Hot. I don't know if just having a larger grip (currently OS odyssey grip, whereas my TM was SS Slim 3.0) or progressive face technology would help more. Also wanting to try a toe hang style just to see what it would do with my stoke as I feel maybe I adjusted my stroke to be more SB/ST due to the type of putter I use. Basically I am over thinking everything because I don't want to think about the stresses of work right now Sorry about work, but you are overthinking this....which is ok many of us do. Milled vs Insert has been an ongoing discussion. You can make a milled putter fell exactly like an insert by changing the face thickness, deeper grooves, etc. Why do you say you are hooked on milled putters? Different putters and designs rotate differently so yes, the design of the putter can influence the putters rotation through the stroke. The amount of arc (no such thing as SBST unless you manipulate the stroke) is determined more by setup than anything else. What are you trying to do or change or fix? TR1PTIK and Vegan_Golfer_PNW 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, cnosil said: Sorry about work, but you are overthinking this....which is ok many of us do. Milled vs Insert has been an ongoing discussion. You can make a milled putter fell exactly like an insert by changing the face thickness, deeper grooves, etc. Why do you say you are hooked on milled putters? Different putters and designs rotate differently so yes, the design of the putter can influence the putters rotation through the stroke. The amount of arc (no such thing as SBST unless you manipulate the stroke) is determined more by setup than anything else. What are you trying to do or change or fix? I guess i prefer the feel and look of milled putters now. I felt like inserts are cheap or could break whereas a milled putter should be solid. I also feel like i have better distance control. What i am wanting to fix is just more consistency and cutting down on 3 putts which i know practice would help a lot. I am also a perfectionist due to certain traits about myself and my life, so I don't want to leave any stone un-turned Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: TBD Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said: I guess i prefer the feel and look of milled putters now. I felt like inserts are cheap or could break whereas a milled putter should be solid. I also feel like i have better distance control. What i am wanting to fix is just more consistency and cutting down on 3 putts which i know practice would help a lot. I am also a perfectionist due to certain traits about myself and my life, so I don't want to leave any stone un-turned Be careful with the path you go down on this one, you can get upgraded inserts made of aluminum or copper put in place of the standard insert. Don't ask me why i know this https://www.spryevo.com/golf/putter-insert-optimization/ MattWillGolf and NRJyzr 2 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said: I guess i prefer the feel and look of milled putters now. I felt like inserts are cheap or could break whereas a milled putter should be solid. I also feel like i have better distance control. What i am wanting to fix is just more consistency and cutting down on 3 putts which i know practice would help a lot. I am also a perfectionist due to certain traits about myself and my life, so I don't want to leave any stone un-turned Inserts aren't cheap and hold up very well and will last as long as a milled face. Inserts are very consistent now and there is no difference between a milled and insert regarding distance control. Distance control is a tempo/stroke thing. So 3 putts is probably a distance control think unless you miss a lot of putts inside 3 feet; which would be a face control issue. Distance is controlled in a couple of ways; the first is one length stroke and changing the speed of the stroke to roll the ball a certain distance and the second is changing the length of the stroke with same tempo. I would recommend the second. Distance control is a skill that you can only learn by rolling the ball that distance; there are no shortcuts or easier ways. Unfortunately, golf isn't about perfection. It is a sport that you can only control what you can control and you have to manage expectations. You can hit a putt with the perfect speed on a perfect line and it can still miss. You can hit a putt off line and with the wrong speed and it can still go in the hole. Vegan_Golfer_PNW 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 hours ago, cnosil said: Inserts aren't cheap and hold up very well and will last as long as a milled face. Inserts are very consistent now and there is no difference between a milled and insert regarding distance control. Distance control is a tempo/stroke thing. So 3 putts is probably a distance control think unless you miss a lot of putts inside 3 feet; which would be a face control issue. Distance is controlled in a couple of ways; the first is one length stroke and changing the speed of the stroke to roll the ball a certain distance and the second is changing the length of the stroke with same tempo. I would recommend the second. Distance control is a skill that you can only learn by rolling the ball that distance; there are no shortcuts or easier ways. Unfortunately, golf isn't about perfection. It is a sport that you can only control what you can control and you have to manage expectations. You can hit a putt with the perfect speed on a perfect line and it can still miss. You can hit a putt off line and with the wrong speed and it can still go in the hole. Ya. I feel like I am leaving strokes on the table. 38 putts is way too many. Practice would help. Just need to find the time. Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: TBD Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I don't have a lot of experience to go off of, but I was very interested in the EVNROLL tech and drove to a golf store nearly an hour away more than once just to try them. I couldn't find a single model, grip, or length variation that could match the Scotty Cameron 6m I was gaming at the time - in terms of feel or consistency of strike. Then I was put in a position where I needed to sell the 6m and find a suitable replacement at a much lower cost. I rolled a few models from Odyssey, Taylormade, Mizuno, and then Cleveland (which hadn't even been on my radar). I won't try to claim it feels as good as my old 6m, but on center strikes it certainly comes close. NOTE: Feel is also highly dependent on putter design and where weight is placed - I experienced this when purchasing the Scotty (different feels between the 6m and 5w for example) and again when selecting the Cleveland HB SOFT I game now. Verdict is still out on the face technology, but I figured it couldn't hurt. I did however have one putt that seemed to do more than expected recently. Either my perception of strike was way off (doubtful considering how much I work on this specifically), or the tech did it's job because I could have swore that putt came right out of the heel and was immediately calling for the ball to go - I thought it would come up short. Instead I watched it continue to roll end-over-end until it found the bottom of the cup. That's simply a summary of my experience. Truthfully, as long as you like it and can get the ball in the hole it doesn't matter what putter you use. That's one of the great things about golf! cnosil and Vegan_Golfer_PNW 2 Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Verdict is still out on the face technology, but I figured it couldn't hurt. I did however have one putt that seemed to do more than expected recently. Either my perception of strike was way off (doubtful considering how much I work on this specifically), or the tech did it's job because I could have swore that putt came right out of the heel and was immediately calling for the ball to go - I thought it would come up short. Instead I watched it continue to roll end-over-end until it found the bottom of the cup.I have experienced the same during most wanted testing and with my own evnroll on the course. JohnSmalls, Vegan_Golfer_PNW and TR1PTIK 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRJyzr Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 On 3/9/2021 at 7:39 AM, TR1PTIK said: Verdict is still out on the face technology, but I figured it couldn't hurt. I did however have one putt that seemed to do more than expected recently. Either my perception of strike was way off (doubtful considering how much I work on this specifically), or the tech did it's job because I could have swore that putt came right out of the heel and was immediately calling for the ball to go - I thought it would come up short. Instead I watched it continue to roll end-over-end until it found the bottom of the cup. I've had this happen with my Cleveland Huntington Beach 1, from the initial edition of the HB putters, on a couple occasions. I'm not going to complain. Ironically, I haven't been using it lately, found improvement going to the Snake Eyes head that should be in my sig... TR1PTIK 1 Quote Driver: TM Original One 11.5* set to 11*, Aldila NV75 X, 43.5" -or- SpeedZone, HZRDUS Black 75 6.5, 43.5" 3w: Cobra King LTD, RIP Beta 90, 42" -or- Stage 2 Tour, NV105 X, 42.5" 2h or 3h: TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, Aldila NV105 S -or- RIP Alpha 105 S Irons: 3-PW Mizuno MP37, Recoil Proto 125 F4 (reshaft in progress, slowly); 1i & 3-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S; 2-PW Golden Ram TW282, RIP Tour 115 R GW: Dynacraft Dual Milled CNC 52*, Steelfiber 125 S; Scratch 8620 DS 53*, Steelfiber 125 S SW: Ram TG-898 56*, DGX ss2x; Ram Tom Watson 55*, DGX ss2x; Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS; PM Grind 19 58*, stock shaft Putter: Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34"; Ping Scottsdale TR Craz-E, 35"; Cleveland Huntington Beach 1, 35" Ball: Wilson Staff Duo Professional, Bridgestone Tour B-RXS, Callaway Chrome Soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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