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I wanted to see or hear from folks how they carry, process, prepare data for a round. I know I lean towards offline basics but also like my Grint app as well. Below is my current "yardage book". I keep a game plan on the left and hope to add club distances soon to that sheet. On the right is my mobile with the Grint opened for GPS. I like using the wallet style case as I feel it hides the mobile and makes it feel intentional for golf. I switch it back to my standard case after the round. PXL_20210306_131146785.jpeg

 

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I don’t process any data before a round other than maybe look at the courses website and scorecard for a general knowledge of the layout and distance of its a course I haven’t played before. To me the tee placement on the tee box varies from round to round at courses so the score card and distances is just a basic reference that I can then just look at when I’m at the hole and decide club selection based on the setup and the course/weather conditions. 

I carry a ghost gps to get the distances to front/middle/back to use in club selection on approach shots or on par 3s. Also gives some info to distance if bunkers, hazards or end of fairway. This is used to help in club selection especially off the tee. I Don’t necessarily care about middle as much as front/back. 
 

Since there’s going to be errant shots where I may have to play sideways or not have a shot at the green too much prep before hand can easily go out the window once play starts. 

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I have a notebook I carry and take two or three lines of notes per hole. I look at actual yardage vs. what's started on the scorecard. Then I note the tee shot, can I hit driver ot do I need to back off. Then I note the club(s) I expect to hit into the green and where the good miss is, short or right, etc.

I use Google Earth to figure all this out. Would anyone be interested in a deep dive post in how to use Google Earth to plot out shots on a course?

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I have a sheet with my carry distances (need to update with partial shots since I have improved technique);  I use a GPS to get distances to front middle and back.  Off the tee it is primarily driver unless there is trouble in my landing area;   I figure out line based on google earth for courses I haven't played or don't remember the line.   I calculate green targets based on how far I am from the pin;  this is based on a simple methodology from my instructor.      It is a pretty basic strategy that is similar to DECADE.    Working on committing to each shot and being aggressive to my selected target. 

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2 hours ago, DiscipleofPenick said:

I have a notebook I carry and take two or three lines of notes per hole. I look at actual yardage vs. what's started on the scorecard. Then I note the tee shot, can I hit driver ot do I need to back off. Then I note the club(s) I expect to hit into the green and where the good miss is, short or right, etc.

I use Google Earth to figure all this out. Would anyone be interested in a deep dive post in how to use Google Earth to plot out shots on a course?

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I have done some trial and error with Google Earth but discovered that the Grint has a GPS Flyover tool that you can adjust targets and shot origins for each hole of a course and have found that easier.  You can also auto choose which tee to start from. 

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2 hours ago, CCRyder said:

I have done some trial and error with Google Earth but discovered that the Grint has a GPS Flyover tool that you can adjust targets and shot origins for each hole of a course and have found that easier.  You can also auto choose which tee to start from. 

Does it allow you to check fairway widths?  

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Does it allow you to check fairway widths?  
It has a line drawing tool. You can measure anything on the map.

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7 minutes ago, DiscipleofPenick said:

It has a line drawing tool. You can measure anything on the map.

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I'd have to pull mine out to look (and I am too lazy to get my phone) but you can draw a line across the fairway or across the green to get widths?  I thought it only drew lines from where you are located on the hole. 

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I attempted the google earth method, it does give more info vs the Grint because you can figure out width and elevation changes, but it definitely takes time to get used to and isn't as easy as the Grint. But it is definitely more detailed

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2 hours ago, DiscipleofPenick said:

It has a line drawing tool. You can measure anything on the map.

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25 minutes ago, RollingGreens said:

I attempted the google earth method, it does give more info vs the Grint because you can figure out width and elevation changes, but it definitely takes time to get used to and isn't as easy as the Grint. But it is definitely more detailed

I just looked at the Grint (non pro version) and couldn't figure out how to draw a line across the fairway. All I could do is draw a line to the landing spot that gave me distance from location and distance to green.      What I would want to do is put a cone over the fairway to show dispersion and target line.  

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I just looked at the Grint (non pro version) and couldn't figure out how to draw a line across the fairway. All I could do is draw a line to the landing spot that gave me distance from location and distance to green.      What I would want to do is put a cone over the fairway to show dispersion and target line.  

As far as I know you wouldn't be able to do fariway width on the Grint, that would be more google earth. I only used the non paid Grint version so I can't speak to any other additions with the paid

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As far as I know you wouldn't be able to do fariway width on the Grint, that would be more google earth. I only used the non paid Grint version so I can't speak to any other additions with the paid
I think the best you could do in the Grint would be to manipulate the tee box location to one side of the fairway and move the target to the otherside.

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I've never put together something like your sheet.  My Shotscope V2 is my yardage book.  I know my club yardages and from there its just adjustment for wind, elevation, obstacles to clear, wet/dry conditions, and sometimes how I'm striking the ball that day.  

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On 3/6/2021 at 9:08 AM, CCRyder said:

I keep a game plan on the left

This is off topic, but looking at your game plan it seems as if you're intentionally giving up distance off the tee on many holes.  Obviously I don't know your game, but as you become a better player you'll definitely want to get the maximum distance off of every tee, as long as you can keep the ball in play most of the time.

Back ON topic, about 15 years ago I developed my own yardage book for my home course.  I used a CAD program, and traced most of the features from Google Earth.  I used GPS to get one dimension, then used the CAD program to show the rest of the yardages I wanted to include.  All "terrain" was done primarily from observing color variations in the satellite photos.

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This is off topic, but looking at your game plan it seems as if you're intentionally giving up distance off the tee on many holes.  Obviously I don't know your game, but as you become a better player you'll definitely want to get the maximum distance off of every tee, as long as you can keep the ball in play most of the time.
Back ON topic, about 15 years ago I developed my own yardage book for my home course.  I used a CAD program, and traced most of the features from Google Earth.  I used GPS to get one dimension, then used the CAD program to show the rest of the yardages I wanted to include.  All "terrain" was done primarily from observing color variations in the satellite photos.
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Wow that's awesome. Would love to do this for my home course and tournaments.

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40 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

This is off topic, but looking at your game plan it seems as if you're intentionally giving up distance off the tee on many holes.  Obviously I don't know your game, but as you become a better player you'll definitely want to get the maximum distance off of every tee, as long as you can keep the ball in play most of the time.

Back ON topic, about 15 years ago I developed my own yardage book for my home course.  I used a CAD program, and traced most of the features from Google Earth.  I used GPS to get one dimension, then used the CAD program to show the rest of the yardages I wanted to include.  All "terrain" was done primarily from observing color variations in the satellite photos.

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This is awesome ! Off topic, yes I sm intentionally trying to keep the ball in play to eliminate giving up so many strokes. I do intend to start stretching that back out as I get more competent off the tee. Essentiually as I get under 100 regularly and am trying to break 90 I think I will need to add distance back. Back on Topic, great use of CAD ! 

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52 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

This is off topic, but looking at your game plan it seems as if you're intentionally giving up distance off the tee on many holes.  Obviously I don't know your game, but as you become a better player you'll definitely want to get the maximum distance off of every tee, as long as you can keep the ball in play most of the time.

Back ON topic, about 15 years ago I developed my own yardage book for my home course.  I used a CAD program, and traced most of the features from Google Earth.  I used GPS to get one dimension, then used the CAD program to show the rest of the yardages I wanted to include.  All "terrain" was done primarily from observing color variations in the satellite photos.

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This thread just makes me realize I’m lazy and need to prep better


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I just used Google Earth on my home course for the first time. Now I realize how difficult some holes really are. Two par 5's and a par 4 hitting through a chute that is only 20 yards wide with trees on both sides by 200 yards long before the fairways open up to a whopping 30 to 35 yards wide. I guess that why I got so good hitting fairways with the driver. Be precise or pay the price!  (I got to remember that line).  

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I saw this write up today and thought of that nice CAD work above. Basically looks like the same quality to me.

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17 minutes ago, CCRyder said:

I saw this write up today and thought of that nice CAD work above. Basically looks like the same quality to me.

I'm guessing you're talking about my diagram, I think its the only one in this thread.  That's definitely much higher quality than I did, but it has some of the things I was trying to do.  

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On 3/7/2021 at 10:34 AM, DaveP043 said:

This is off topic, but looking at your game plan it seems as if you're intentionally giving up distance off the tee on many holes.  Obviously I don't know your game, but as you become a better player you'll definitely want to get the maximum distance off of every tee, as long as you can keep the ball in play most of the time.

Back ON topic, about 15 years ago I developed my own yardage book for my home course.  I used a CAD program, and traced most of the features from Google Earth.  I used GPS to get one dimension, then used the CAD program to show the rest of the yardages I wanted to include.  All "terrain" was done primarily from observing color variations in the satellite photos.

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That really is awesome!!! Beautiful detail 👍

You could package those and easily sell 'em online - wanna make one for me for my course??

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12 minutes ago, cksurfdude said:

That really is awesome!!! Beautiful detail 👍

You could package those and easily sell 'em online - wanna make one for me for my course??

Thanks, it was fun to do.  But it was also a lot of effort, probably over 80 hours of drafting and editing, and I kept tweaking things for 6 months before I got to the end product.  Every time I played I'd be looking at my contours and re-sketching by hand, or deciding to add some additional yardage, then changing the CADD model.

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10 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

Thanks, it was fun to do.  But it was also a lot of effort, probably over 80 hours of drafting and editing, and I kept tweaking things for 6 months before I got to the end product.  Every time I played I'd be looking at my contours and re-sketching by hand, or deciding to add some additional yardage, then changing the CADD model.

You can tell it's a "labor of love" .. a true hobby you clearly enjoy .. nice!

I'm futzing around with a quick & dirty using Google Earth - drawing distance lines off the tee and to the green, and then copy & pasting into a Google Docs where I can add notes. Just trying to make something simple and easy to refer to on-course.

WITB of an "aspiring"  😉 play-ah ...
Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A)
5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R)
7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R)

4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3)
5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3)
6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 
54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite)
Putter...Ev
nRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grip on both)
...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour.

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10 minutes ago, cksurfdude said:

You can tell it's a "labor of love" .. a true hobby you clearly enjoy .. nice!

I'm futzing around with a quick & dirty using Google Earth - drawing distance lines off the tee and to the green, and then copy & pasting into a Google Docs where I can add notes. Just trying to make something simple and easy to refer to on-course.

And that will work great.  I liked using the CADD software, because once I had the entire hole "traced", I only needed one actual dimension to get it to scale.  Then I used the CADD program to measure all of the other distances I wanted.

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:callaway-small:Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X

:mizuno-small: T22 54 and 58 wedges

:mizuno-small: 7-wood

:Sub70: 5-wood

 B60 G5i putter

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Reston, Virginia

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You guys are intense and it's really cool. Maybe I need to prepare a little better if there's a course I've never played before. I've had good luck with 18Birdies seeing yardages as I go to a hole I've never played for the first time. I have the free app so it doesn't tell elevation etc, but I'm not totally competitive at this point. 

When my wife asked if I wanted to leave Maine and move to where she grew up, I couldn't say no to Pinehurst, NC. I honestly don't spend much money on golf equipment, but I'm constantly reading reviews in case I ever get ready to buy

I swing left handed and have been the State of Maine Left Hander's champion since 1997, the last year they held the tournament. I'm currently a 7.1 handicap. Trying to get lower, but my gut gets in the way.

WITB

Driver: image.png.2a9745c9eca1e1dcd4c3ecfd5b2823e3.png Epic speed 9 degree

Irons: :titelist-small: 990's S300 Stiff shafts bought when I was in college. (Received a personal use discount, otherwise would've stuck with my Hogan Edge's)

3 Wood: :callaway-small:  Epic speed 15 degree or image.png.188f225bd9daa89b3976cdaa079d23d0.png PT15

52/56/60 :taylormade-small: Z Spin wedges (heck of a deal $100 for all 3 at Dick's in 2013)

Putter: :odyssey-small: OG Rossie

 

 

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I use Google Earth in conjunction with the strategy guide provided to me @edteergolf 

I put my driving cone overlay onto the hole in Google earth.  Then I take a screen shot and write hole information overtop in Microsoft Paint.  An example is below (Cone is 65yds wide at 300yds, middle line is 270yds, shortest line is 240yds):

I save the photos to my phone and voila, there you go.  I also have made physical yardage books in the past based upon landmarks on each hole.  Make notes on trouble/no-go spots, green break, etc.

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Pre training max driver speed: 124mph

Current: 130mph

WITB:

Driver: :ping-small:G425 Max, 9*

Woods: :taylormade-small: 2007 Burner TP 3 wood and 5 wood

Irons:  :srixon-small: Z765 4-PW (1 degree flat) with KBS $-130 shafts

Wedges:  :vokey-small: SM7 50/12/F, 54/10/S and 58/12/D

Putter:  L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1

Ball:  :titelist-small: ProV1

 

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This is one of my favorite things to do when I have nothing else to do. I LOVE getting on Google Earth Pro and scouting out courses in my area or in areas where I am travelling in the coming months. There have been many times where people on GolfPass or some other site have recommended a course in an area and then I get on Google earth and look at it and decide it is not my style (not a big fan of tight tee shots or a lot of forced layups off the tee). Key things are knowing your carry distances (roughly) and your dispersion (roughly), particularly with your clubs you tee off with. The one challenge with Google Earth is that depending on the time of day the picture is taken shadows can look like trees or vice versa. Google Earth can also give you an idea of general tilts on greens, fairways, downhill vs uphill shots, etc. I have an excel doc that is full of golf courses where I have mapped out landing zones, elevation changes, fairway tilt, green tilts, hazards, etc. This also cuts down on some of the visual intimidation some courses present from the tee that are not present from an overhead view (great example is Tobacco Road, didn't find the course to be particularly difficult because the landing zones were much larger than they looked). 

It is also a good way to choose the tees you want to play on a golf course. Obviously some courses can play 6,200 yards and be super tight off the tee with small greens and be much harder than a course that is wide open at 6,500 yards. 

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