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Got a quote from Club Champion for 4-GW. Guess I’ll be going with a stock graphite option...

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Do you have a local builder? Our local shop will build a club for something like $10 and does a nice job. Like dlow said, the MMT parallels are $60/each retail. Puring will be most likely be a wa

IMHO the only reasons not to switch are cost and stigma. Graphite is a superior technology, for all ages, for all swing speeds. If you trust a graphite shaft in your driver with higher swing spee

I am in my early 30s and switched to graphite this offseason. Thanks to our wonderful Michigan winters, I hit off mats at the heated range from November to March. Last winter I dealt with a lot of pai

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27 minutes ago, Middler said:

Got a quote from Club Champion for 4-GW. Guess I’ll be going with a stock graphite option...

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You can get those shafts for $60 a piece, don’t really need puring. You down for doing the shaft swap yourself?

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Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:srixon-small: ZX5 5 - PW - Accra 95 icwt S
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2 hours ago, Middler said:

Got a quote from Club Champion for 4-GW. Guess I’ll be going with a stock graphite option...

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CC is a great fitting experience... But that have outrages pricing. Take their recommendations and get the clubs on your own for 40% their price

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12 hours ago, Middler said:

Got a quote from Club Champion for 4-GW. Guess I’ll be going with a stock graphite option...

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12 hours ago, dlow206 said:

You can get those shafts for $60 a piece, don’t really need puring. You down for doing the shaft swap yourself?

Do you have a local builder? Our local shop will build a club for something like $10 and does a nice job.

Like dlow said, the MMT parallels are $60/each retail. Puring will be most likely be a waste on Mitsubishi graphite - their radial consistency is pretty much through the roof based on Russ Ryden's tests over at golfshaftreviews.info.

And it looks like the MCC+4s are no upcharge from Mizuno. I'd call up Discount Dan's and ask for a quote on the 921s with whatever the highest resale stock shaft option is. Ask for the grips to be left in box and not installed. That way you get the grips for nothing and can sell the shafts to recoup a few bucks.

It's a little bit of work, but would save you $640 right away. And I suspect Discount Dan's will be slightly cheaper than CC's quote on the 921s as well.

 

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13 hours ago, Middler said:

Got a quote from Club Champion for 4-GW. Guess I’ll be going with a stock graphite option...

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Call Discount Dan’s with your specs and get a quote. I guarantee it will be significantly less than this!

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36 minutes ago, edingc said:

 

Do you have a local builder? Our local shop will build a club for something like $10 and does a nice job.

Like dlow said, the MMT parallels are $60/each retail. Puring will be most likely be a waste on Mitsubishi graphite - their radial consistency is pretty much through the roof based on Russ Ryden's tests over at golfshaftreviews.info.

And it looks like the MCC+4s are no upcharge from Mizuno. I'd call up Discount Dan's and ask for a quote on the 921s with whatever the highest resale stock shaft option is. Ask for the grips to be left in box and not installed. That way you get the grips for nothing and can sell the shafts to recoup a few bucks.

It's a little bit of work, but would save you $640 right away. And I suspect Discount Dan's will be slightly cheaper than CC's quote on the 921s as well.

 

Boom!!! Exactly right! Amen!

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@Middler - check this out: https://www.mikesgolfoutlet.com/mitsubishi-mmt-80-pll-80g-regular-38-5-41-7pc-iron-shaft-set-370-883056/

They say used but the tips don't look prepped, the lengths are too long for anyone to have actually used them, and the handles look immaculate, don't look like they have ever been gripped. 

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Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 4/27/2021
Driver:titelist-small: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:srixon-small: ZX5 5 - PW - Accra 95 icwt S
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On 3/10/2021 at 7:47 AM, Middler said:

I very much appreciate the insights I’ve gotten here, thank you all. Now how to proceed, first I have to convince the warden I really need this...

My spousal unit humored me one night as we were out to dinner, and listened to me speculating on this exact subject.  I have the bonus of real world experience, having experimented with a set of graphite iron shafts 4 years ago.

Her response was "why wait until you're at the point of having to do it, or having to quit?"

I love my wife.  😁

Mentioned the experiment 4 years ago...  at that time, didn't think I needed to switch, but after a couple months, I noticed my hands, wrists, and elbows felt better.  I'd been having more issues than I'd realized, only discovered thru the lack of those issues.  Funny what we get used to.

When is it time?  Right about now sounds good to me.  🤔

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15 hours ago, Middler said:

Got a quote from Club Champion for 4-GW. Guess I’ll be going with a stock graphite option...

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This is why I do my own clubwork....

Driver: TM Original One 11.5* set to 10*, Aldila RIP Alpha 80 X, 43.5"
3w:  Cobra King LTD, Matrix 8m3 X, 42"
2h or 3h:  TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, Aldila NV105 S
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Got my build quote...it's happening 😎

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16 hours ago, Middler said:

Got a quote from Club Champion for 4-GW. Guess I’ll be going with a stock graphite option...

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To echo what many have already said....you can get all this done for SIGNIFICANTLY less. If you're interested, PM me and I'll send you my guys info. He does fantastic work and will charge you a fraction of what Club Champion quoted you. 

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Have you looked into the Nippon Zelos line?  I was a tester of those and I love them.  Feel and performance of graphite but steel.

Just a thought...

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i'm intrigued by the Accra ICWT series

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Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 4/27/2021
Driver:titelist-small: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:srixon-small: ZX5 5 - PW - Accra 95 icwt S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge
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I tried graphite on a whim last year and am never going back. Just don't see any reason to go back to steel and if it helps keep the body feeling better then that's all the better. I know the shafts in the M Gloire irons I got are way too light for me, but just got 0211's delivered today with Steel Fiber i95s in them that I was fit for. Getting them out for the first time tomorrow.

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Have the HB3 hybrid irons 65 gram regular graphite shaft and have always played a graphite shaft. Sr golfer here, when is it a good time to go to a lighter shaft? Have my eyes on the 2021 Cobra T-Rail 45 gram shaft. 

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11 hours ago, NC Golfer said:

Have the HB3 hybrid irons 65 gram regular graphite shaft and have always played a graphite shaft. Sr golfer here, when is it a good time to go to a lighter shaft? Have my eyes on the 2021 Cobra T-Rail 45 gram shaft. 

Not sure there is a right time to switch to lighter shafts. A different shaft profile could easily be better in a similar weight.

If you are having problems getting the ball in the air could be an indication of considering a lighter shaft but in reality the best way to know if lighter or a different shaft profile is better is to get fit.

 

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22 hours ago, dlow206 said:

i'm intrigued by the Accra ICWT series

They were the best in distance and accuracy during my fitting, with the MMT a very close second. Several I've talked too say Accra is, arguably, is the best composite iron shaft mfg. right now. To get the matte finish I wanted, simply moved the already steep price beyond my value calculation...ymmv.

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37 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

They were the best in distance and accuracy during my fitting, with the MMT a very close second. Several I've talked too say Accra is, arguably, is the best composite iron shaft mfg. right now. To get the matte finish I wanted, simply moved the already steep price beyond my value calculation...ymmv.

I just learned more about them recently and have also heard that they are one of the best quality graphite shafts out there on the market. Seems like they have a lot of fitting flexibility because they are constant weight (at least the ICWT series are) but also parallel tips, so you can tip trim and hard/soft step on top of that. 

Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver

Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 4/27/2021
Driver:titelist-small: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:srixon-small: ZX5 5 - PW - Accra 95 icwt S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge
Putter:  :odyssey-small: Two Ball Ten S Tour Lines - 31"
 

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Now I’m trying to decide for the same money am I better off reshafting my current irons, or just buying all new irons (with less expensive graphite shafts). I am perfectly happy with my current irons, so that’s not a factor for me. I’m thinking reshafting would be money better spent since I’d have better shafts.

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12 minutes ago, Middler said:

Now I’m trying to decide for the same money am I better off reshafting my current irons, or just buying all new irons (with less expensive graphite shafts). I am perfectly happy with my current irons, so that’s not a factor for me. I’m thinking reshafting would be money better spent since I’d have better shafts.

Always tough decisions.  Are you going to keep your old irons if you buy a new set or are you willing to reshaft a single club with graphite just to try them out?  If you really like the more expensive shafts,  I would go that route.  What shafts are you considering?

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