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I started this thread, and after more than two months with graphite iron shafts (from steel) I can say my wrist and elbow pain has diminished. My wrists were sore after every round, simply not so anymore. I’m still battling some elbow pain but it's reduced and hopefully it'll go away in time. So I’m glad I switched from steel to graphite somewhat proactively with age…

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On 5/25/2021 at 8:26 AM, Middler said:

I started this thread, and after more than two months with graphite iron shafts (from steel) I can say my wrist and elbow pain has diminished. My wrists were sore after every round, simply not so anymore. I’m still battling some elbow pain but it's reduced and hopefully it'll go away in time. So I’m glad I switched from steel to graphite somewhat proactively with age…

I'm so liking this post! Great to hear they are providing the reduced wear n' tear so many others say they do. How are they performing with respect to CHS, ball flight, and accuracy?  The MMT80's my fittings identified offered improvements in all of these categories as compared to steel.  Better performance with less joint pain - pinch me.

I'm now just waiting for my (replacement) order to arrive.

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2 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

I'm so liking this post! Great to hear they are providing the reduced wear n' tear so many others say they do. How are they performing with respect to CHS, ball flight, and accuracy?  The MMT80's my fittings identified offered improvements in all of these categories as compared to steel.  Better performance with less joint pain - pinch me.

I'm now just waiting for my (replacement) order to arrive.

No difference in trajectory or distance (If anything a touch longer). Accuracy unknown as my swing probably generates way more standard deviation than any shaft change. I’m well satisfied with my Recoil 95’s. I’d have bought MMT’s if not for the (fixable I know) hosel “issue.”

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I am 34 and will consider the heavier versions of MMTs, Recoils, & Steelfibers in my next set of irons (to the extent that each is available with the fitter & doesn't require a super pricey custom build). Don't see any reason not to performance-wise, and it can only help to prevent joint aches/pains in the future.

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On 3/9/2021 at 1:11 PM, edingc said:

I am in my early 30s and switched to graphite this offseason. Thanks to our wonderful Michigan winters, I hit off mats at the heated range from November to March. Last winter I dealt with a lot of pain in my right shoulder, and this winter my elbows and wrists started to ache after range sessions before I made the switch.

I don't miss my steel shafts at all. I picked up a few more MPH in club speed, my wrists and elbows don't ache after a range session, and (in my case) the Mitsubishi MMTs look really sharp in the bag. Anecdotally, my dispersion seems to have improved some as well.

There are a ton of graphite options out there now, in various weights, prices and bend profiles. As @cnosil said, price can be a detractor, but I felt like the reduced pain was well worth it. The MMTs set me back $750 to do 4-AW and both numbered wedges, but they are worth every penny I paid for them. I enjoy the profile so much that I've put the MMT hybrid shaft in both of my hybrids and built a Cobra driving iron with the MMT Utility shaft.

Have you hit the KuroKage black 2nd gen for comparison? I use them now, they were really inexpensive but performed much better than the recoils and the excaliber (red) shafts. I was curious about the mmt's but haven't seen them anywhere up here to try them.

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2 minutes ago, Tyler Webb said:

Have you hit the KuroKage black 2nd gen for comparison? I use them now, they were really inexpensive but performed much better than the recoils and the excaliber (red) shafts. I was curious about the mmt's but haven't seen them anywhere up here to try them.

I have not. I wanted to go with something that was similar in weight to my steel shafts, and the taper tip MMTs are in the 110-115 gram range that I was shooting for.

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Also, for what my opinion is worth, I don't think I'll be going back to steel anytime soon. I have hit thousands of range balls this year, played quite a few rounds considering it's late May, and my joints feel great. If anything, the MMTs are more accurate than steel was for me, and they feel spectacular. I've made good use of the dampening abilities on a few clankers already, too...

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5 hours ago, edingc said:

Also, for what my opinion is worth, I don't think I'll be going back to steel anytime soon. I have hit thousands of range balls this year, played quite a few rounds considering it's late May, and my joints feel great. If anything, the MMTs are more accurate than steel was for me, and they feel spectacular. I've made good use of the dampening abilities on a few clankers already, too...

My left shoulder is so loving these reports.  Now just waiting for the replacement order of ZX5's/MMT 80's to arrive... it's been quite the saga 😐.

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