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On 4/8/2021 at 10:33 PM, yungkory said:

That thing folds up pretty small! Can you guys show pictures of it in your trunk? Bonus points if you have a small car, trying to see just how compact this thing really is.

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As promised, picture of the motocaddy with wheels removed and folded up in the back of the cab of my Chevy 1500 with the bench seats up. Wheels don't have to come off to be stored. Fits with the wheels on and can be stored in different orientations. That is my daughter's car seat on the 3rd seat. 

On 4/9/2021 at 3:39 AM, Lacassem said:

Nice first impression @golfish! Is there any indication in the box of how many hours the battery lasts? Or if not how much did the battery go down after your 2 rounds?

No indication on the box I can remember but I believe on the Motocaddy website it says the 28V battery should last a full 36 holes. After my first round the battery indicator barely went down. I recharged between first and second round and it took 4 hours for the LED on the charger to go from red to green again. Not sure if that means it actually needed 4 hours to recharge or if that is just the standard charging cycle. I'll add that to the list of questions I already sent over to Roger!

On 4/9/2021 at 3:56 AM, fozcycle said:

Very nice intro golfish. Your attention to detail is spot on. Would like to see the videos as they did not upload. Did you get a bag with the cart as well?


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Oh hmm seems like some people were able to view the videos OK. Might be because you are on an iPad. Would be awful nice if Motocaddy were to send us a matching Dry Series Cart Bag to match with the cart to test out the EASILOCK capabilities wouldn't it? (0_-)

On 4/9/2021 at 3:41 PM, cksurfdude said:

Yes! Works nicely, too, though if it were me I might re-design the button layout. Haven't tested it yet but there's supposed to be a fail-safe stop if you get too far away from the cart.

Another plus, imo, is you can easily operate it from the handlebar with one hand and a thumb for the speed control knob (eg. remote charge dies or you're going thru tight spaces).

I see. I was going to ask Roger why Motocaddy couldn't integrate the GPS and Remote features into one cart. After using the cart for 2 rounds, I think the GPS feature is cool so far but since I have a Shotscope, a range finder, and I use Grint to keep my scores (which has GPS) the GPS is redundant for me. Also, I think most people are gear junkies like me and probably already have devices like me for course GPS. 

The speed control dial is a bit sensitive but sometimes has trouble registering speed changes. Seems if you try to change the speed too fast it has trouble. 

On 4/9/2021 at 8:37 PM, WaffleHouseTour said:

Looking forward to the updates. that first video I thought you were playing Three Jack National... but glad you were on some green grass in videos two and three.....

lol what is Three Jack National? 

On 4/10/2021 at 2:43 AM, TBT said:

I’m looking forward to seeing the reviews on these, I’m seriously considering an electric cart to get me out walking more


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Just think about the actual physical fitness required to walk your home courses. Even with an electric cart, it may be more physically demanding that you thought! Many of mine are very hilly so it would take some building of physical fitness to get to the point to walk those without passing out on a hot day! I plan on walking on a relatively flat course more regularly to build the stamina to walk some of the hilly courses going forward! Also some courses I know of don't allow walking so I would make sure the courses you plan on playing most often allow walking!

On 4/10/2021 at 8:46 AM, PMookie said:

Awesome start!!! Those videos were really clear! How did you embed them without YouTube? 
Man, I need one of these things to help me get back in-shape!!!

I just uploaded them directly to the forum in the area for media below the response area then clicked the video where I wanted to add it in the response. 

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INTRODUCTION AND FIRST IMPRESSIONS Greetings fellow Spies! Golfish reporting in for another great testing opportunity provided oh so graciously by Motocaddy and MGS! Quick intro about me. A

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9 hours ago, golfish! said:

lol what is Three Jack National? 

Clearly the site of the next midwest major championship venue on par with the Yucatan masters...  

https://clubproguy.com/blogs/media/three-jack-national-faq

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Dumb question of the day - obviously batteries are
Key to this. I would have a tendency to forget to charge the unit or let’s say you decide to play 36 and the batteries die. Can the wheels be disengaged so it can be manually pushed?

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6 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Dumb question of the day - obviously batteries are
Key to this. I would have a tendency to forget to charge the unit or let’s say you decide to play 36 and the batteries die. Can the wheels be disengaged so it can be manually pushed?

That's a good question and I was trying to figure that out last night when I was messing around with it. I'll have a better answer later tonight after I have a zoom call with the president of the company to go over the unit. I do know that if you disconnect the battery that it will roll freely though.

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Dumb question of the day - obviously batteries are
Key to this. I would have a tendency to forget to charge the unit or let’s say you decide to play 36 and the batteries die. Can the wheels be disengaged so it can be manually pushed?


Looks like you can switch to off and enter free wheel mode

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Looks like you can switch to off and enter free wheel mode

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Hmm from the instructions I read I didn't see any OFF mode. Technically moving the wheels to the second position would be an off power free wheel mode. Roger mentioned he would walk us through that procedure so I will update after the call!

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Really want to see how this things perform on the really steep hills. At my home course, i find a way to tip over my push cart every once in a while. 

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17 minutes ago, Tpoole22 said:

Here a couple pictures of it in the trunk of my friends Honda

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2 hours ago, dlow206 said:

Really want to see how this things perform on the really steep hills. At my home course, i find a way to tip over my push cart every once in a while. 

It can still tip over if you are not careful. I had a few close calls walking across the slope of a hill. If you take it at slow speed and hold on to the handles it is fine. If you try to speed across it wants to tilt over sideways but overall  about as stable as a normal push cart. I don't think the additional weight of the battery is enough to offset the weight of the club heads up top making a push cart a bit top heavy. Uphill I am not risking it on auto on a very steep climb and holding on to the handle bars. Downhill is no issue as the center of gravity is back far enough for it to not want to tip forward plus the DHC (downhill control) keeps the speed constant. The M7 remote units have a wheelie bar in the back so @BIG STU or @ole gray can tell you a bit more about how that performs!

21 minutes ago, Tpoole22 said:

Brian and I just had a zoom call with Roger Teat, the president of Motocaddy US to make sure that any initial questions or concerns that we had were answered. We didn't have a ton of questions for him right now because we are early into testing and most of the features are pretty straight forward. He did give us some tips on battery life and how to play without the GPS if you are in a tournament. The big question that I had and @cnosil to answer your question from earlier about using the caddy without power. To do this the wheels are just moved over to the second notch (pictured below) and from there they can spin freely so it can be used as a regular push cart.

I'll try to get a video of this later to show how easy it is to put the wheels on or to take them off.

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@cnosil Thomas got a really good picture of the axle with the 2 notches. You can see the pin sticking out closer to the motor. That pin is what locks the wheel to the axle. I over-engineered the wheels in my last post lol! It does not have a freewheeling bearing. The wheel has a spring loaded offset ring that helps the wheel to stay locked into the notches. When the wheel is in the outer ring position, that locking ring just rotates in that outer notch. I am guessing since manual mode is intended only for emergency use if the battery dies during a round, reliability of a metal ring rotating in contact with a metal axle was not a design concern, more how to make manual mode possible with this setup. Long term I would not rely on such a design for normal operation but worst case for one full round if you forgot to charge the battery I think that is ok. There is grease on the axles so that may be a point of maintenance required long term.

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25 minutes ago, tchat07 said:

So I am going to pair a few of the topics into one question. If you're on a steep hill can you just push it? Or do you still use the motorized feature?

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I'm assuming that you are talking about going downhill correct? I haven't had a chance to test this yet, but what Roger said on our call earlier was that when you are going down a hill it is best to leave the speed on 1 or 2 so that the cart doesn't go too fast and get away from you. You have the option at anytime to change it to manual so that you have better control. 

@golfish! Have you taken this down any big hills yet and did you go for the motorized feature?

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6 hours ago, golfish! said:

Hmm from the instructions I read I didn't see any OFF mode. Technically moving the wheels to the second position would be an off power free wheel mode. Roger mentioned he would walk us through that procedure so I will update after the call!

So after the call with Roger, it is confirmed that the way to use the cart as a manual push cart is to adjust the position of the wheels on the axle as mentioned before. There is no electric mode for free wheel. Thomas mentioned disconnecting the battery but trying to push is still against the resistance of the motors. I have tried push the cart forgetting it was electric without activating the motors and it will not move easily.

42 minutes ago, Tpoole22 said:

I'm assuming that you are talking about going downhill correct? I haven't had a chance to test this yet, but what Roger said on our call earlier was that when you are going down a hill it is best to leave the speed on 1 or 2 so that the cart doesn't go too fast and get away from you. You have the option at anytime to change it to manual so that you have better control. 

@golfish! Have you taken this down any big hills yet and did you go for the motorized feature?

Yes I had a chance to take it down a fairly steep hill and using the DHC (downhill control) features works really good. Speed stays consistent the whole time. I probably would not bother to adjust the wheels to manual push mode and just use the lowest speed setting as in the video even on a really steep hill. I would hold the handle bars though for control. Video below using slow speed down a hill. I will find an even steeper hill and post more videos.

 

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12 hours ago, Tpoole22 said:

Hey everyone! Sorry I know I'm a little late here. I just got back from vacation last night and finally had a chance to get my hands on the trolley.

I can't thank MGS and Motocaddy enough for the opportunity to test the M5 trolley. Little bit about me. I am 28 and have a wife and one year old boy named Rory(yes after Rory Mcilroy). I have been golfing for about three years now and as a former baseball player I was bound to be hooked on golf. I knew as soon as I went out for a round with some coworkers that I was going to love this sport. I play to around a 12 handicap currently and try to play 1-2 times a week and go to the range at least once a week. Luckily even though I have a one year old, my inlaws live with me so I can always get at least an hour to run out to the range whenever I want. 

I applied for this opportunity because being a new dad I need to get as much encouragement to exercise as I can get. I already walk the majority of my rounds, but with some of the public courses I play being very hilly sometimes I am dragging by the end so I am hoping that this can help out a bit. As I mentioned earlier, I am testing the M5 version of the Motocaddy that has a GPS. This works out perfect for me because I actually do not have a rangefinder and usually have to borrow from my friends. There are a number of features on this trolley that I am excited to test out including score tracking, adjustable distance control, shot distance measurement, on board charging, smartphone alerts, drag and drop pin position and distance to front back and middle of the green. 

First Impression:

The first thing that I noticed is that this thing was surprisingly heavy and as Brian mentioned it is packaged very well. Everything was already assembled on the cart other than the wheels and the bottom cart strap in case you have the motocaddy cart bag that hooks in. Apologize if the pictures all go to the bottom. 

I put this next to my caddytek push cart and was amazed at how small it actually folds up. I made sure to get a picture with the wheels inverted as well as normal. I will also take a picture in the trunk of a small car later since someone already asked for that.

I was really impressed with how quick and easy the set up was. Within 5 minutes I already had the cart assembled and connected to both my home wifi and Bluetooth on my phone. The wheels have a button that you press to put them on and take them off in just a couple of seconds so that you can invert them to save space if you need to. You can also tell how bright the screen is which I know will really come in handy when it is really sunny outside.

I'm really excited to get the cart out on the course later this week to test out all of the features. As you can tell my son is really excited about it too. 

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20 minutes ago, golfish! said:

 

So after the call with Roger, it is confirmed that the way to use the cart as a manual push cart is to adjust the position of the wheels on the axle as mentioned before. There is no electric mode for free wheel. Thomas mentioned disconnecting the battery but trying to push is still against the resistance of the motors. I have tried push the cart forgetting it was electric without activating the motors and it will not move easily.

Yes I had a chance to take it down a fairly steep hill and using the DHC (downhill control) features works really good. Speed stays consistent the whole time. I probably would not bother to adjust the wheels to manual push mode and just use the lowest speed setting as in the video even on a really steep hill. I would hold the handle bars though for control. Video below using slow speed down a hill. I will find an even steeper hill and post more videos.

 

 

I see the cart in the distance. If you were playing in a group with others riding a cart, do you think you were able to keep-up more effectively than using a pushcart, or just carrying a bag?

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1 hour ago, PMookie said:

I see the cart in the distance. If you were playing in a group with others riding a cart, do you think you were able to keep-up more effectively than using a pushcart, or just carrying a bag?

Definitely easier than carrying a bag (never carried a bag on a full 18, only on a par 3 course with 3 or 4 clubs) but I have carried heavy packs in the Marines and know that it wouldn't be pleasant lol. As compared to a regular push cart, I believe so. Time will tell as I play more rounds but that morning I played with 2 of my buddies who rode together in a cart. Since I did not have to expend energy on pushing the cart, I was able to walk a brisker pace than usual to be able to keep up. For sure they were still able to get ahead of me after every tee shot but after that it really did not matter. We finished our round in 3.5 hours.

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Woods : :benhogan-small: GS53 3 Wood 14* Mitsubish Tensei Blue 73g Regular

Hybrids: :callaway-small: XR Project X Stiff (3&4)

Irons : sub70logo.png.3c207e4e90c1eeca7b9a917b5fa4b848.png 699 Pro Black 5-AW 1* flat KBS Tour V 90 Stiff Shafts 

Wedges : File:Kirkland Signature logo.svg - Wikimedia Commons 52, 56, 60 

Putter : :taylormade-small:Spider Red

Bag : datrek-brand_1456761019__86876.original.jpg.7c24f9ae71c7730ce29a828226731487.jpg lightweight cart bag | motocaddy.jpg.258c0b46e60c2804fc6b1f64bca0aef3.jpgDry Series Bag

Ball :  :taylormade-small: TP5 PIX (2019) | Screen-Shot-2017-07-20-at-7_24.05-AM-300x118.png.9f1c4cb1d62511ee40a05bd6d5795f97.png ProV1x (2021)

Rangefinder : 836d5c8b9e44880db86abcd3b735255d.w2480_h836.jpg.bcd4050c642957abbdca7453a6cb0469.jpg ULT-X

Pushcart : Currently Testing motocaddy.jpg.258c0b46e60c2804fc6b1f64bca0aef3.jpgM5 GPS DHC Electric Push Cart

SoCal, USA

Right handed HDCP 16.4

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