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Last night, I pulled the trigger on a couple of Recoil shafts. I'm planning to put them in the 5 and 6 iron of my 699 Pros, leaving the Nippons in the 7-PW.

Anyone else have a graphite/steel split in your irons? What's your experience been with a setup like that?

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We already play spit sets. Woods and hybrids have graphite almost exclusively. We then play driving irons that can be either graphite or steel. Putters are starting to go graphite.

With irons we often talk about splitting GI and players; so why not have partial graphite sets? The dynamics of a graphite shaft might help with the longer clubs.

The question I would ask is why not graphite in all the irons? What do you want to accomplish? If it is lighter weight, there are lightweight steel shafts. Many people switch for comfort but that would push you to the entire set. Aside from a cost factor I would say graphite shaft are equivalent to steel shafts.

I don’t see an issue and if you get the improvements you are looking for I say go for it.

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Only time I had a split graphite iron setup has been with my current miura irons and the TM and Vokey wedges. other than my 50* I don’t take full swings with my other wedges. The move from graphite to steel at that point has no effects

As @cnosil mentioned most people have some type of split set and in the end IMO it comes down to where ones comfort level is in a change

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22 minutes ago, cnosil said:

The question I would ask is why not graphite in all the irons?

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Then starting at the top end would be a good approach. Assuming you want full graphite at some point?

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51 minutes ago, cnosil said:


Then starting at the top end would be a good approach. Assuming you want full graphite at some point?

Certainly not opposed to it, but neither is it particularly my goal. For me, this is chiefly about gapping. Like many golfers, I find that the gaps between clubs get tighter as I move up in my bag. If I can buy a fraction more speed (and perhaps a touch higher launch) on my long irons, while keeping my 7-PW where they are, I'd be fine with that.

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Certainly not opposed to it, but neither is it particularly my goal. For me, this is chiefly about gapping. Like many golfers, I find that the gaps between clubs get tighter as I move up in my bag. If I can buy a fraction more speed (and perhaps a touch higher launch) on my long irons, while keeping my 7-PW where they are, I'd be fine with that.

Will be interesting to see if it impacts performance. Are the shafts lighter than your steel?

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I don't see any reason not to try it. True Temper came out with their Binary shafts about a year ago based on the same principle. I think having access to a launch monitor to see where you sit is important to make sure gapping is where you want it. Steel shafts will continue to have a purpose in shorter irons for the sake of weight and accuracy (and cost) until there are economical graphite replacements. 

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17 minutes ago, cnosil said:


Will be interesting to see if it impacts performance. Are the shafts lighter than your steel?

According to the specs, yes. The Recoil 680 SC:

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And the Modus³ Tour 105:

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I agree with everyone here - I don't see why this won't work. It's basically the same concept as an AMT set, right? Just your weight jump between graphite and steel is a bit of a larger gap.

I know one thing for sure - I highly doubt I'll ever go back to steel. Those Recoils are a good price, too.

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53 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

Certainly not opposed to it, but neither is it particularly my goal. For me, this is chiefly about gapping. Like many golfers, I find that the gaps between clubs get tighter as I move up in my bag. If I can buy a fraction more speed (and perhaps a touch higher launch) on my long irons, while keeping my 7-PW where they are, I'd be fine with that.

This is why a split setup of clubs and possibly shafts can help. Many amateurs lack the swing speed to get the right launch conditions to give a good enough separation between clubs so putting a hybrid or more forgiving style head in place of the club that’s part of the set can help. Same with going from hybrid to a wood. The smaller head with lower loft in a hybrid may hurt someone compared to a higher lofted wood.

The lighter shaft option works. When I used a driving iron I went graphite and lighter than my steel shafts and it worked fine

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This makes total sense I was thinking if a similar thing in my 5 iron since it's lofted much more like a 4 iron so launch can be an issue as well.

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Why not? Cobra have been doing this for years with their OL for the different flight characteristics. 

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Recoils arrive on Monday. I'll be aiming to get on the SkyTrak and get baseline numbers for my hybrid, and my 5, 6, and 7 irons. My expectation is to see some gapping issues there. Especially with the 5 and 6 irons, I want to focus on carry, spin, launch angle, peak height, and descent angle. Then I'll re-run those numbers after the re-shafting and update the thread.

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OK, we've got the shafts in hand, and now we've got a baseline:

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And look! We've got some clear problems.

I'm not exactly sure what went wrong on the 7 iron. I think it was a combination of a little fatigue and just some bad shots. My 7 iron normally goes longer than my 8 iron, but depending on the outcome of this little experiment, I'm open to making adjustments there as well.

But the bunching of the 5 and 6 iron definitely came through in the swings here.

So I'm going to reshaft the 5 and 6 in the Recoils (hopefully tonight). Then I'll re-run the gapping, and my hope is to see the gaps get a lot more even.

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3 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

OK, we've got the shafts in hand, and now we've got a baseline:

Export_BM_04122021_172657_Page_01.jpg

And look! We've got some clear problems.

I'm not exactly sure what went wrong on the 7 iron. I think it was a combination of a little fatigue and just some bad shots. My 7 iron normally goes longer than my 8 iron, but depending on the outcome of this little experiment, I'm open to making adjustments there as well.

But the bunching of the 5 and 6 iron definitely came through in the swings here.

So I'm going to reshaft the 5 and 6 in the Recoils (hopefully tonight). Then I'll re-run the gapping, and my hope is to see the gaps get a lot more even.

Any thoughts about utilizing shaft length to tweak the gapping a little bit? Like maybe going 3/4" between 5-6? Maybe squeeze out 1-2 MPH more ball speed...

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I honestly haven't seen anyone playing steel and graphite within a set make-up, but why not?  If you can get the yardage gaps corrected, it certainly makes sense and worth a try.  I would think matching up swing weights might prove a little challenging?

I'm interested to see how the change to the MMT 80's (4-AW) and leaving my PING Glide 2.0 with the stock steel shaft is going to work out.  Two players in Yuma tried the graphite iron shaft route and both said they experienced a wider spread in yardages - one has gone back to steel as a result.  I know one was SF and I think the other was Recoil (not sure specific models).  Both were single digit players over 60. Me, my shoulders, elbows, and hands are hopeful they'll be pure magic.

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12 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

honestly haven't seen anyone playing steel and graphite within a set make-up, but why not?

Depends on how you want to look at it. Very very few people play steel in their woods and hybrids before moving into steel in their irons and wedges. So in that aspect most golfers play a mixed material setup
 

I have a bag that is graphite from driver thru pw and steel in my 3 specialty wedges.  In a past golf life there were others I know that also had similar setups

Brandt Snedeker has steelfibers in his irons and his 48* and s400s in his other wedges

 

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6 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Depends on how you want to look at it. Very very few people play steel in their woods and hybrids before moving into steel in their irons and wedges. So in that aspect most golfers play a mixed material setup
 

I have a bag that is graphite from driver thru pw and steel in my 3 specialty wedges.  In a past golf life there were others I know that also had similar setups

Brandt Snedeker has steelfibers in his irons and his 48* and s400s in his other wedges

 

Yea, I should have qualified mixed shafts within irons.  The change to composite in woods and hybrids is so common now it's the normal.  Not sure how well this addresses yardage gapping but I certainly could envision doing it for a preferred ball flight.

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15 hours ago, edingc said:

Any thoughts about utilizing shaft length to tweak the gapping a little bit? Like maybe going 3/4" between 5-6? Maybe squeeze out 1-2 MPH more ball speed...

Measuring clubs is voodoo to begin with. There's a half decent chance this happens just by accident 🙂 In all seriousness, this isn't a bad idea. I'm not sure how much difference a 1/4" will make, but I can't imagine that it would hurt anything.

14 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

@GolfSpy MPR Michael, do you have a Skytrak at home now?

Yep, got the SkyTrak about two years ago. Love being able to have feedback on practice (and clubfitting), especially during the six months of winter each year.

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3 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

Measuring clubs is voodoo to begin with. There's a half decent chance this happens just by accident 🙂 In all seriousness, this isn't a bad idea. I'm not sure how much difference a 1/4" will make, but I can't imagine that it would hurt anything.

Yep, got the SkyTrak about two years ago. Love being able to have feedback on practice (and clubfitting), especially during the six months of winter each year.

PING regularly adds an additional 1/8" in length to their GI sets for 4 and 5 irons... I would recommend trying 1/4", the  1/8" wasn't enough to help me. I have the same issue as you with overlap between 7/8 irons as well as 5/6. I bit the bullet and removed the 5 iron from the bag as it was only useful off the tee. Want to get the lofts checked just to rule it out. Otherwise in the market for a hybrid that carries 190-200, to go between my 6 iron and 4 iron with a 6 iron length shaft in the train wreck that is the top half of my bag. 

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I've gone to a combo set of shafts with the long irons R flex and the rest S flex.  Same shaft, just slightly lighter in the long irons.  Not sure I see or feel much difference. 

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Some very preliminary results on this experiment.

Here was my bag gapping result from before replacing the shafts in my 5 and 6 irons:

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And here is the result from today:

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While this is far from perfect, there are now at least some meaningful gaps between my 5, 6, and 7 irons. This is a small sample size; the "before" represents three shots with each club and today's was five shots with each club.

While Kirke and I have gotten to the course a few times, it's been a mushy mess, so I'm not really keeping stats. (It's snowing again today.) But I did use my Recoil-shafted 5 iron on a downhill par 3 tee shot this week:

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Again, it's a downhill hole, but this is all carry (the ball was embedded).

On the whole, the numbers here are promising. I need to dig in a bit deeper to launch angle and spin rates, but in terms of the basic goal (more reasonable gapping before switching to hybrids), the move to graphite in the long irons looks like one that I'm going to stick with this season.

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19 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

Some very preliminary results on this experiment.

Here was my bag gapping result from before replacing the shafts in my 5 and 6 irons:

Pages from Export_BM_04122021_172657_Page_1.jpg

And here is the result from today:

Pages from Export_BM_04122021_172657_Page_2.jpg

While this is far from perfect, there are now at least some meaningful gaps between my 5, 6, and 7 irons. This is a small sample size; the "before" represents three shots with each club and today's was five shots with each club.

While Kirke and I have gotten to the course a few times, it's been a mushy mess, so I'm not really keeping stats. (It's snowing again today.) But I did use my Recoil-shafted 5 iron on a downhill par 3 tee shot this week:

image.png

Again, it's a downhill hole, but this is all carry (the ball was embedded).

On the whole, the numbers here are promising. I need to dig in a bit deeper to launch angle and spin rates, but in terms of the basic goal (more reasonable gapping before switching to hybrids), the move to graphite in the long irons looks like one that I'm going to stick with this season.

The main difference I see here is that your 7i distance increased by 14 yards.  Was that just based on quality of strikes in your small sample size?  

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:mizuno-small: MP-32 3-PW OR :srixon-small:Z745 5-PW

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During the pandemic I've had a lot time to practice golf and try my hand at club making. I started with a 37" Wishon Sterling single length steel iron set and have tweaked it over time. My current setup has 38.50" graphite shafted 4 & 5 hybrids, 38.00" graphite 6 & 7 irons, 37.50" steel 8/9/PW and 36.00" steel GW/SW/LW. All clubheads from 4 - PW are 274 grams. I found that I needed to use graphite shafts from 4 - 7 to get proper distance as my swing speed was too slow above 7/8 iron.

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I love this idea. I currently swing One Iron Golf Pro Line single length irons and have thought about doing something similar. Even went as far as reaching out to Sub 70 to see what they could do. Curious how it's going for you? I'm guessing gapping is better. How is ball striking?

 

On 4/27/2022 at 3:53 PM, Jenkdoggy said:

During the pandemic I've had a lot time to practice golf and try my hand at club making. I started with a 37" Wishon Sterling single length steel iron set and have tweaked it over time. My current setup has 38.50" graphite shafted 4 & 5 hybrids, 38.00" graphite 6 & 7 irons, 37.50" steel 8/9/PW and 36.00" steel GW/SW/LW. All clubheads from 4 - PW are 274 grams. I found that I needed to use graphite shafts from 4 - 7 to get proper distance as my swing speed was too slow above 7/8 iron.

 

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No, but I have the Recoil ES780 Smack-wrap F3 and like them. Been using graphite for over 25 years due to arm issues, but there are times I'd like a heavier feel.

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Have heard of mixing the heads in iron sets.  Maybe a lighter or Regular vs stiff in the wedges.  My D,F,H all have Stiff graphite shafts and my irons have R300 shafts.  Yes, I was fitted for my clubs, as always.   

 

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Hybrid - TSR1 20.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75  

Hybrid - TSR1 23.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75

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Go for it.  I love Recoils too.  I have reg. flex recoils in my irons and 3 and 5 hybrids.  But I have to go to senior flex in 3 wood and driver.  and all my mizuno wedges have TT steel wedge shafts.

Driver: PXG 0211, A flex Evnflo Riptide (2021). And an old Callaway 454 TI (2004) on regular flex.

3 W: Callaway Steelhead Xr A flex Tensei CK 55 gram. The rest are Regular flex.

5 W : Titleist TSi 1 on Aldila Ascent regular flex.

Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC 3 18 degree, on Mamiya Recoil reg flex.

4 iron:  Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree hybrid iron, GFF, even tho it is a hollow body iron.

6,7,8,9,wedge: Ping I 500, on Recoil reg flex shafts.

Gap wedges: 52 x 9 Mizuno forged S5, wedge shaft; 60 x 6 Mizuno forged T7, wedge shaft.

Sand: Old original Hogan Sure Out on Apex original shaft, probably 56 / 12.

Chipper:  (yep I carry a chipper) old Don Martin "Up n In" bronze? copper? 🙂

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