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On 4/19/2021 at 9:52 AM, RickyBobby_PR said:

Violent doesn’t necessarily mean it puts stress and strain on the body. Chris Como is a biomechanics specialist and he works hand in hand with all of Bryson’s team. His body is working efficiently with the swing. 

It’s somewhat hard to find video of his workout techniques specifically, but if anyone is interested, I would encourage you to watch some of the GM Golf videos and also Hogan Molthan on YouTube as they have done some training videos with Bryson. His routine is quite unorthodox for people who are used to the typical gym workouts, but he is essentially training every muscle in his body to both extend and retract with efficiency; in essence, training the muscles to protect his body against the injuries that come with high swing speeds. 

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wouldn't you jsut love to see Bryson (Or any PGA player)  leave the metalwoods at home and just take a full bag of irons to play one week, really force him to work on his irons.

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9 hours ago, BADFanBoi Scotty said:

wouldn't you jsut love to see Bryson (Or any PGA player)  leave the metalwoods at home and just take a full bag of irons to play one week, really force him to work on his irons.

I agree this would be a fun concept, but I do think Bryson is a much better iron player than people give him credit for. I think his driving game is awesome and fun to watch, but also think it can put him in bad positions that he doesn’t need to be in, making his iron shots much harder. I would like to see a comparison for all players between their iron play in the fairway vs the rough as well

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20 minutes ago, SkilledByDesign said:

. I would like to see a comparison for all players between their iron play in the fairway vs the rough as well

Not sure what you are specifically looking for but that is what strokes gained information tells you.  If you want to see some more detailed comparisons for expectation management information follow Lou Stagner on Twitter 

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19 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Not sure what you are specifically looking for but that is what strokes gained information tells you.  If you want to see some more detailed comparisons for expectation management information follow Lou Stagner on Twitter 

I guess that does give a pretty good indication as I didn’t realize that it took lie into account. I’m just trying to relate it to what I saw Bryson do at winged foot when nobody could hit the fairways due to the extreme course conditions. For me, that’s the biggest advantage for him vs the field due to his high swing speed and ability to add extra loft at longer yardages

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23 minutes ago, SkilledByDesign said:

I guess that does give a pretty good indication as I didn’t realize that it took lie into account. I’m just trying to relate it to what I saw Bryson do at winged foot when nobody could hit the fairways due to the extreme course conditions. For me, that’s the biggest advantage for him vs the field due to his high swing speed and ability to add extra loft at longer yardages

There is a lot of information captured by the tour to include course conditions which can be factored into those types of calculations.   From a lie perspective it is basically fairway or rough and not uphill ball below feet type stuff.    Basically there is about a  20-30 yards difference for fairway strokes gained to be better than rough strokes gained.   The other part is to look at distance to the hole from various approaches.  If possible it just makes sense to hit the ball far.   It is interested to look at the pga tour stats portal and looked at fairways hit, distances to the hole, and made putts.   The tour players are really good but not as good as the announcers make them out to be.  

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6 hours ago, cnosil said:

The tour players are really good but not as good as the announcers make them out to be.  

This i think will be a bit of a hurdle as these starts get more socialized. When announcers start saying things such as well from 100  out they expect to hit it to five feet people will know that is just not true and could make the announcer look a little clueless.

As for Bryson seems to be doing his thing with the speed training.

https://youtu.be/GXL-8Y25gxQ

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19 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

This i think will be a bit of a hurdle as these starts get more socialized. When announcers start saying things such as well from 100  out they expect to hit it to five feet people will know that is just not true and could make the announcer look a little clueless.

As for Bryson seems to be doing his thing with the speed training.

https://youtu.be/GXL-8Y25gxQ

Commentators are starting to adapt.  The more progressive are talking about dispersion patterns and proximity to the hole.  The graphics haven't caught up yet but I am sure they will.  

 

Regarding the video;  all I can say is I want Chris Como's living room.  

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25 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Commentators are starting to adapt.  The more progressive are talking about dispersion patterns and proximity to the hole.  The graphics haven't caught up yet but I am sure they will.  

 

Regarding the video;  all I can say is I want Chris Como's living room.  

I have noticed that yes and it's a good change, and hopefully we start to see some dispersion overlays on holes soon.

Also yes that is a living room I can get behind.

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1 hour ago, cnosil said:

Commentators are starting to adapt.  The more progressive are talking about dispersion patterns and proximity to the hole.  The graphics haven't caught up yet but I am sure they will.  

 

Regarding the video;  all I can say is I want Chris Como's living room.  

 

1 hour ago, ejgaudette said:

I have noticed that yes and it's a good change, and hopefully we start to see some dispersion overlays on holes soon.

Also yes that is a living room I can get behind.

For those that have watched the video, what is your take on his force dispersion technique? meaning the way he turns off his back heal and out of his swing stance. I think this is one of the things that will allow him to play for a longer period of time without injury along with his physical training as well obviously

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6 minutes ago, SkilledByDesign said:

 

For those that have watched the video, what is your take on his force dispersion technique? meaning the way he turns off his back heal and out of his swing stance. I think this is one of the things that will allow him to play for a longer period of time without injury along with his physical training as well obviously

It can't be a bad thing to let that pressure go and not have those restrictive movements when going that fast. How much longer this helps him keep up the speed only time will tell. All I know is he has a lot of people much smarter than I thinking about this and helping him out.

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Have we accounted for the SPB factor?  At a minimum, 90% of the game is played between the ears.  

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Could it just be that Bryson is streaky?  There have been tons of very good, Hall of Fame good, players who were and are streaky.  Far rarer are the guys who are capable of being competitive week after week and even they go through streaks - it's just that theirs have to do with struggling to make top 10's instead of cuts.  

 

Nicklaus, Woods, Norman and Singh were the only guys that I can remember who could have their C game and still find ways to make cuts.  I'm sure there were probably others but those guys stand out of it.  Obviously Nicklaus and Woods are on Mount Rushmore but Norman and Singh aren't.  There are plenty of inconsistent guys who racked up lots of wins and majors,  

 

I didn't see Hogan, Sneed and that group in its prime, Palmer was on the down side - Watson, Phil and Ray Floyd stand out as streaky players who when on were the best player in the world and when not could easily miss cuts.

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4 minutes ago, revkev said:

 

Could it just be that Bryson is streaky?  There have been tons of very good, Hall of Fame good, players who were and are streaky.  Far rarer are the guys who are capable of being competitive week after week and even they go through streaks - it's just that theirs have to do with struggling to make top 10's instead of cuts.  

 

 

I think it is about being streaky. Like you said there’s far more that are than arent. DJ is another example of it. There’s lots of good golfers on tour and many times it comes down to the guy with the hot putter 

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7 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

 

I think it is about being streaky. Like you said there’s far more that are than arent. DJ is another example of it. There’s lots of good golfers on tour and many times it comes down to the guy with the hot putter 

DJ is a great contemporary example.  

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Tour Exotics 3 wood is in the bag because we are allowed 14 clubs.  It's a great club for pulling balls out of the water or from bushes - you never want to put your hand into anything in Florida unless you are absolutely certain that it's safe.  There are rare wind conditions when I might hit it off the tee on a few holes that I play.  

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On 4/30/2021 at 1:26 AM, BADFanBoi Scotty said:

wouldn't you jsut love to see Bryson (Or any PGA player)  leave the metalwoods at home and just take a full bag of irons to play one week, really force him to work on his irons.

I had the same thought after his performance at the Masters. I was telling some golf buddies Bryson needs to leave the woods in the bag when playing Augusta, how cool would that headline be " Bryson wins the Masters, playing with irons only!"

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37 minutes ago, LeftyHawk said:

how cool would that headline be " Bryson wins the Masters, playing with irons only!"

That would be quite the story.  Love Walter btw. In fact all of Jeff Dunham's characters are a stitch.

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