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37 minutes ago, RollingGreens said:

Looks like the countdown is on 4 weeks likely left. I’ve come close and I know if I were to play an easier course it would happen but I’m hot budging yet. Breaking 80 with a slope of 140 here I come!

You got this, though don't let this turn into your wife just wants this to end and you want the baby to come late to get that score in 😁

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Just saw the thread congrats on baby and keep the faith on breaking 80.  My golf buddy has been on the disabled list due to shoulder surgery for over a year and he resumes golf in late Oct. I started a quest to  improve my game and remake my swing 2 months ago before he gets back to golf.  I’m a 16 HDC and my ultimate goal is to lower HDC to a 10.  My ball flight has changed and I am a better ball striker still working on bringing it from the range to the course. Reading your journey notes is inspiring me to keep plugging away 

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Just came across the thread.. good on you to have a solid goal. Skimmed through the various posts, didn't see anything about your scrambling or fairway stats, only putting and a couple of GIRs. You mentioned playing one up from the tips, generally 'blue'. Why not white? What club is your approach club, on average? Jack backed "Tee It Forward" a couple of years ago, terrific initiative. Too many golfers are hitting woods, hybrids or long irons into greens more often than not. Game is heck of a lot more fun with a wedge or 8 iron in to the green, and really, how it is meant to be played.
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On 9/2/2021 at 9:49 AM, Svo said:

Just came across the thread.. good on you to have a solid goal. Skimmed through the various posts, didn't see anything about your scrambling or fairway stats, only putting and a couple of GIRs. You mentioned playing one up from the tips, generally 'blue'. Why not white? What club is your approach club, on average? Jack backed "Tee It Forward" a couple of years ago, terrific initiative. Too many golfers are hitting woods, hybrids or long irons into greens more often than not. Game is heck of a lot more fun with a wedge or 8 iron in to the green, and really, how it is meant to be played.
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White plays a bit too short, in my instance I might only hit driver ~6 times, It really turns the course into fairway woods and wedges, whereas playing from the hybrid the white/gold combo and gold alone I can use driver 9-10x which is just the right amount. It's not the distance itself for why I haven't broke 80, until this weekend but the fact of the course being that hard. Even the hybrid slope rating is 136, and the slope from gold is 140. It's not an easy course by any means, Distance wise it's not a problem ~6700 from the golds is the max I can play and the course typically plays quite fast in the fairway, the hybrid are about ~6400 which is optimal, the white tees just plainly aren't that much fun to play on. The younger guys like myself actually dread playing them during member events because hitting driver on a lot of holes provides really no benefit. 

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Well I said I wanted to break 80 from the golds, but I broke 80 this weekend from the gold/white combo tees playing ~6400. I played a round Friday and showed up to the course not really wanting to play the gold or white tees so I played the combo,I wasn't even really thinking about it, I went in 4 over at the turn. Typically the back is harder for me walking because of fatigue. I played fantastic on the back hitting just about all the GIR, knocked down a wonderful shot on the par 11 and 17. It seemed that everything was going right, I even tested my luck on 18 going for the green in 2, but to much chagrin I feel about 50 yards short landing in the rough vs the fairway where I might have had a chance. The worst part is it never felt like a sub 80 round, Just a few bogeys and all pars, I dodged the big miss all day, kept the ball in play and did what I needed to do. I still want to break it from the gold, but the hybrid tees are a nice consolation!!

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Well I said I wanted to break 80 from the golds, but I broke 80 this weekend from the gold/white combo tees playing ~6400. I played a round Friday and showed up to the course not really wanting to play the gold or white tees so I played the combo,I wasn't even really thinking about it, I went in 4 over at the turn. Typically the back is harder for me walking because of fatigue. I played fantastic on the back hitting just about all the GIR, knocked down a wonderful shot on the par 11 and 17. It seemed that everything was going right, I even tested my luck on 18 going for the green in 2, but to much chagrin I feel about 50 yards short landing in the rough vs the fairway where I might have had a chance. The worst part is it never felt like a sub 80 round, Just a few bogeys and all pars, I dodged the big miss all day, kept the ball in play and did what I needed to do. I still want to break it from the gold, but the hybrid tees are a nice consolation!!

Awesome! Congrats on the big achievement.

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1 hour ago, RollingGreens said:

Well I said I wanted to break 80 from the golds, but I broke 80 this weekend from the gold/white combo tees playing ~6400. I played a round Friday and showed up to the course not really wanting to play the gold or white tees so I played the combo,I wasn't even really thinking about it, I went in 4 over at the turn. Typically the back is harder for me walking because of fatigue. I played fantastic on the back hitting just about all the GIR, knocked down a wonderful shot on the par 11 and 17. It seemed that everything was going right, I even tested my luck on 18 going for the green in 2, but to much chagrin I feel about 50 yards short landing in the rough vs the fairway where I might have had a chance. The worst part is it never felt like a sub 80 round, Just a few bogeys and all pars, I dodged the big miss all day, kept the ball in play and did what I needed to do. I still want to break it from the gold, but the hybrid tees are a nice consolation!!

Still a great accomplishment and the funny thing is those rounds kinds always feel this way, nothing spectacular just steady. As I am sure the better players on this site will note good golf is kinda boring golf. I have only played boring golf a few times, but it has been fun in its own way. Now hopefully those rounds keep coming.

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I haven’t picked up a golf club to swing in about 2.5 weeks. It’s been rough. Really getting the itch to play some simulator golf now that the weather isn’t allowing for any outdoor golf. Recently changed my work schedule that should allow for me to have at least 3-4 golf days per week. At least 2 days being devoted to the driving range with 1 day in the weekend being for a round with the weekend crew and possibly another day being for a league night/practice/ or a evening round with my wife. Having a child hasn’t been easy, but managing my time has made it doable towards the end of the year to still play golf. I would say I actually played a lot better at the end of the year because I wasn’t working through anything with my swing. A bad shot was just a bad shot. Finishing the year with my index just above 8 was a great surprise to me. The next thing I want to work on next year is getting below a 5 which will be a huge challenge. My putting and wedges will have to get a bit better but I think it’s a attainable goal

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It’s the most content I have been with my golf game going into next year. Not really looking for any news clubs or even lessons. I seem to have developed the understanding for what I need to do to be successful off the tee with the inside vs over the top approach. My iron swing has been very reproducible.  I think the only thing I am torn about is putting in the effort to go for scratch this year or being content on where my game is. 
nothing wrong on having an index of 8. I can play with anyone of any skill level and it translates to courses of varied difficulties.

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The baby is here and he is roughly 8 months old at this point. Taking up a fair amount of weekend time but I do love it. Golf game has taken a small step back initially with my driver and irons. I question whether I am over swinging to make up for distance loss with wind and loss of roll out because of extremely wet conditions. My setup doesn’t feel right whatsoever so I think a lot of dry swings using the alignment sticks is in my future the next few days. 
 

on a positive note the weekly group of 3 just found their 4th players and he walks like the rest of us!

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Changing my work schedule to 4 days a week has made it more challenging to get out as much as last year. I’m limited at this time to Thursday and the weekends. Babysitting for a day in Thursday leaves me with really just the weekends to play golf outside of light practice work at home. Hoping for longer days coming up to take advantage of the practice areas at the my club facility 

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Got back to the old ways yesterday. 41/39 for an 80 with 27 putts. Tracked everything during the round which made me focus on playing station to station golf. Hit the fairway, then green, and no more than 2 putts. Sim for the center or large portion of the green. I’ve been working in hitting low flighted wedge shots for my partial distances and it’s worked out well. I close down my stance and put my feet together which narrows my arc and power. Just need to polish up my bunker game, it’s been giving me trouble all year 

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So my game has been pretty up and down all summer. My irons, wedges, and putting have been pretty good for the most part but lately the last month or so my driver has been terrible. I used to be consistently around 250-270. Lately it has been 200-225, I have been battling a slice and even when I hit a good one there is a lot of spin in the high 3k rpm. So I decided to take a lesson with the head golf pro at my course. I never really thought much about my swing because I self taught myself a few years back and for the most part my swing has worked. But with my driver not responding and my game kind of stuck around an 8 index I decided it was worth a try. To give you some context, I have a very up and down swing with a very steep angle of attack, I really pull my arms in at impact closing my power zone. The fitter watched my swing a few times and he told me I don’t have too many options with where my swing is at. I can keep playing it, or work on some wholesale changes. So we started working on my stance to get my weight more on my toes and the ball aligned more in the center of the club vs closer to the hosel. After this we started working in shallowing out the club head. It’s a huge difference for my takeaway and backswing compared to where I was at. I had a few good shots and of course some very bad shots with my irons. Really only felt like I could hit my mid irons, long and short  plus wedges were both very bad right now.  Last thing we tried was the driver, I would say I don’t have a consistent swing because I’ve been tinkering so much over the last month. The driver was the best it’s felt this year and I was hitting massive drives. I have never been able to tee the ball up really higher than a 1.25 to 1.5in height until yesterday. It seemed to really stop the spin down when I hit a solid drive. Really nervous about the wholesale changes. I know it will take work but it was really frustrating to see the minimal progress. I just feel like with my hands that much lower around my shoulders I am going to thin or blade the ball vs high hands, but I made need to tinker a bit to find the right position. Hope to post some videos this weekend. I never thought my swing would need as much rebuilding as I am going to do. But I feel like it’s a necessary step going forward to push my game 

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9 hours ago, RollingGreens said:

So my game has been pretty up and down all summer. My irons, wedges, and putting have been pretty good for the most part but lately the last month or so my driver has been terrible. I used to be consistently around 250-270. Lately it has been 200-225, I have been battling a slice and even when I hit a good one there is a lot of spin in the high 3k rpm. So I decided to take a lesson with the head golf pro at my course. I never really thought much about my swing because I self taught myself a few years back and for the most part my swing has worked. But with my driver not responding and my game kind of stuck around an 8 index I decided it was worth a try. To give you some context, I have a very up and down swing with a very steep angle of attack, I really pull my arms in at impact closing my power zone. The fitter watched my swing a few times and he told me I don’t have too many options with where my swing is at. I can keep playing it, or work on some wholesale changes. So we started working on my stance to get my weight more on my toes and the ball aligned more in the center of the club vs closer to the hosel. After this we started working in shallowing out the club head. It’s a huge difference for my takeaway and backswing compared to where I was at. I had a few good shots and of course some very bad shots with my irons. Really only felt like I could hit my mid irons, long and short  plus wedges were both very bad right now.  Last thing we tried was the driver, I would say I don’t have a consistent swing because I’ve been tinkering so much over the last month. The driver was the best it’s felt this year and I was hitting massive drives. I have never been able to tee the ball up really higher than a 1.25 to 1.5in height until yesterday. It seemed to really stop the spin down when I hit a solid drive. Really nervous about the wholesale changes. I know it will take work but it was really frustrating to see the minimal progress. I just feel like with my hands that much lower around my shoulders I am going to thin or blade the ball vs high hands, but I made need to tinker a bit to find the right position. Hope to post some videos this weekend. I never thought my swing would need as much rebuilding as I am going to do. But I feel like it’s a necessary step going forward to push my game 

i would have shopped around for a coach that had a little more respect for what you accomplished and had more of a ‘tweaker’ mentality rather than the ‘my way or the highway’ style i perceive from your comments. especially with the baby and lack of time to play and practice. best of luck though. 

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Bro,

Congrats first and foremost. I really hope you break 80 before the little one gets here, b/c your game will most likely suffer. It's only natural. Not a bad thing, just facts for you. Your gonna play less golf. 

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21 hours ago, ryan.mzzz said:

i would have shopped around for a coach that had a little more respect for what you accomplished and had more of a ‘tweaker’ mentality rather than the ‘my way or the highway’ style i perceive from your comments. especially with the baby and lack of time to play and practice. best of luck though. 

I was taken back a bit. It’s not where I am terrible. I’ve broken 80 before and generally shot in the low to mid 80s. I will say the early returns paid off today. The driver was as good as it has been this year and that was in a 20mph headwind. The irons and wedges were good at times but the new swing also showed its signs of infancy. 
 

I am willing to give him a few more times but I have my options open. I wouldn’t say that he is wrong with what he suggested, I just think there is a better way to go about it. 

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I was taken back a bit. It’s not where I am terrible. I’ve broken 80 before and generally shot in the low to mid 80s. I will say the early returns paid off today. The driver was as good as it has been this year and that was in a 20mph headwind. The irons and wedges were good at times but the new swing also showed its signs of infancy. 
 

I am willing to give him a few more times but I have my options open. I wouldn’t say that he is wrong with what he suggested, I just think there is a better way to go about it. 

i obviously can’t say whether he’s right or wrong. but when I consider you just had a child, if you’re doing the dad thing the right way it takes up a lot of your previously free time and mental energy. new dad/new mom brain drain is a thing. you just spend so much of yourself concentrating on your new life patterns, responsibilities, and new types of problems to solve, you just exhaust yourself mentally. possibly it’s exactly what you need long term, but it may be frustrating short term. on the other hand, at least your out there working on it, and you won’t have to teach yourself how to golf again after taking a year off, as i’ve had friends do. so, take care of your kid, take care of yourself/your wife, and don’t have anything to regret. 

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We also have a baby on the way! My personal best round is 82 from about 6400 yards. Have just a couple months left so not sure I'll break 80 before then, but this was inspiring!

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One of the best pieces of advice I got was from a book (audio version) that I used to listen to riding to tournaments and when I travelled. It was called, "How to Break 80".

The one take away from that book that I loved, was the suggestion to break your game into 3 holes at a time. One of the things I notice my buddies do is get stressed over a bogey, or a double bogey and they start counting their score before they are even finished. Break it into 3 holes at time. The goal is to shoot 13 or less every 3 holes. If your course, like mine, starts with a par 4, then a par 3 and then a par 5 (or similar combo), then par is 12. That means that if you get a bogey on the first hole - no worries, just concentrate on par on the next hole and then again on the 3rd.

Easier said than done, but by breaking it into 6 mini games of 3 holes each, you find you don't stress as much worrying about the final result - stay present!

After listening to that book, and applying some of the lessons I was finally able to break 80.

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