jborchel Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 Remember what Lee Trevino said: “99% of the putts that are short don’t go in the hole.” You guys are obviously commenting without extensive experience watching the LPGA. Believe me. Except for the two I mentioned, they are usually short on putts and often not even close to having a chance to go in. The PGA guys are always burning the cup with the winner making more of the burns than the rest. Comments about only seeing the PGA contenders putt also holds true for the LPGA. Like the PGA they also show non-contenders make tough birdie putts. The stats differentials that are listed are usually considered huge when you look at many of the PGA listings for various categories for the players on the tour. 1.5 stroke average differential is a very large. Finally, the original question of this post was "Why". I saw no attempts at answering this, just a bunch of statistical and environmental denials. I suggest that all here start watching more of the LPGA televised events. They are great golfers for sure. Just not in the same skill class as the men. They should be as the only differential there is has been compensated for by making the courses they play shorter. tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment
cnosil Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 55 minutes ago, jborchel said: Finally, the original question of this post was "Why". I saw no attempts at answering this, just a bunch of statistical and environmental denials. I suggest that all here start watching more of the LPGA televised events. They are great golfers for sure. Just not in the same skill class as the men. They should be as the only differential there is has been compensated for by making the courses they play shorter. They "why" was that we disagree with your assessment so there is no why. I do watch a lot of the LPGA and usually watch it over the PGA. I will be working the Pure Silk event in a couple of week so I will pay close attention. I did a search and found the following article: https://www.golfdigest.com/story/putting-matthew-rudy Perhaps that will answer your why question although the article is over 10 years old. sixcat, PMookie, RickyBobby_PR and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
sixcat Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 11 hours ago, jborchel said: Remember what Lee Trevino said: “99% of the putts that are short don’t go in the hole.” You guys are obviously commenting without extensive experience watching the LPGA. Believe me. Except for the two I mentioned, they are usually short on putts and often not even close to having a chance to go in. The PGA guys are always burning the cup with the winner making more of the burns than the rest. Comments about only seeing the PGA contenders putt also holds true for the LPGA. Like the PGA they also show non-contenders make tough birdie putts. The stats differentials that are listed are usually considered huge when you look at many of the PGA listings for various categories for the players on the tour. 1.5 stroke average differential is a very large. Finally, the original question of this post was "Why". I saw no attempts at answering this, just a bunch of statistical and environmental denials. I suggest that all here start watching more of the LPGA televised events. They are great golfers for sure. Just not in the same skill class as the men. They should be as the only differential there is has been compensated for by making the courses they play shorter. Thanks for mansplaining that to the rest of us! RickyBobby_PR and tony@CIC 2 Quote Link to comment
cnosil Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 12 hours ago, jborchel said: Remember what Lee Trevino said: “99% of the putts that are short don’t go in the hole.” You guys are obviously commenting without extensive experience watching the LPGA. Believe me. Except for the two I mentioned, they are usually short on putts and often not even close to having a chance to go in. The PGA guys are always burning the cup with the winner making more of the burns than the rest. Comments about only seeing the PGA contenders putt also holds true for the LPGA. Like the PGA they also show non-contenders make tough birdie putts. The stats differentials that are listed are usually considered huge when you look at many of the PGA listings for various categories for the players on the tour. 1.5 stroke average differential is a very large. Finally, the original question of this post was "Why". I saw no attempts at answering this, just a bunch of statistical and environmental denials. I suggest that all here start watching more of the LPGA televised events. They are great golfers for sure. Just not in the same skill class as the men. They should be as the only differential there is has been compensated for by making the courses they play shorter. Here is another article that discusses course setup. https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2021/03/16/lpga-golf-course-setups-womens-golf-pga-tour/ tony@CIC and Kenny B 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
cnosil Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Coming back to this topic as I said I would. Watched today's coverage of the Pure Silk on TV, watched a few groups come through some holes, and today I scored for Amy Olsen, Ariya Jutanugarn, and Stacy Lewis. As I said earlier, I don't think the players are as bad as the OP indicated. Putts were challenging the holes and birdies weren't all inside 5 foot. I'll check again tomorrow, but I figure I will see the same thing. tony@CIC and RickyBobby_PR 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
THEZIPR23 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 On 5/5/2021 at 5:32 PM, jborchel said: Remember what Lee Trevino said: “99% of the putts that are short don’t go in the hole.” You guys are obviously commenting without extensive experience watching the LPGA. Believe me. Except for the two I mentioned, they are usually short on putts and often not even close to having a chance to go in. The PGA guys are always burning the cup with the winner making more of the burns than the rest. Comments about only seeing the PGA contenders putt also holds true for the LPGA. Like the PGA they also show non-contenders make tough birdie putts. The stats differentials that are listed are usually considered huge when you look at many of the PGA listings for various categories for the players on the tour. 1.5 stroke average differential is a very large. Finally, the original question of this post was "Why". I saw no attempts at answering this, just a bunch of statistical and environmental denials. I suggest that all here start watching more of the LPGA televised events. They are great golfers for sure. Just not in the same skill class as the men. They should be as the only differential there is has been compensated for by making the courses they play shorter. No idea what tournament this is from. However could you imagine if they could putt. -50 would win!!! cnosil and tony@CIC 2 Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment
cnosil Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said: No idea what tournament this is from. However could you imagine if they could putt. -50 would win!!! Or they were all on fire with their irons hitting everything to 5 feet. RickyBobby_PR, tony@CIC and THEZIPR23 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
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