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I’m a mid/high handicapper, used to be a low handicapper, but a 18 year hiatus has obviously affected my game. I’m in the midst of trying to find a good iron, my problem is I can’t hit the GI irons as there is no feel, I can’t even tell if I hit the ball plus I expect I’ll play out of them fairly quickly. I love the feel and look of a players iron because that’s what I used to play (Titleist 704CB) I understand I need to be fitted (already have been, and have two more fittings scheduled - PXG and Club Champion) This is a post/thread less about me and more about what irons does the MGS community love for feel and forgiveness and some workability.

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Callaway, mizuno, Taylormade, Honma, Titlist,  PXG, Cobra, Wilson,  Srixon, hogan, sub70......   all manufacturers make great irons and there is a model for you.  I truly believe I could find a

I would second the Mizuno JPX line as well.  I had them, but got rid of them for my Callaway Apex 19 combo set, they are so nice and a much better feel than my Mizuno's, however, not as forgiving.  I

Ben Hogan Player’s Combo is the single best feeling iron set I’ve ever played. Period.    Not only do they feel great, they are as good as anything on the market for players or mid handicappers

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My vote would go to the Mizuno JPX line over and over again. Different forgiveness levels to match your game and the same old Mizuno feel.

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:cobra-small: SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S
:callaway-small: X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S
:taylormade-small: JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR :adams-small: Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S
:mizuno-small: JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S
:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge
:EVNROLL: ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0
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I would second the Mizuno JPX line as well.  I had them, but got rid of them for my Callaway Apex 19 combo set, they are so nice and a much better feel than my Mizuno's, however, not as forgiving.  I would also look into Srixon's new ZX line, you can combo those as well.  The good news is that you can try them all during your fitting...that's the fun part!  Let us know what you choose.

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   Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g

3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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Another JPX fan here.  I settled on the JPX 900 Forged the winter of 2019 as replacements for my 25yo tour cavity forged.  Very good feel when flushed, definitely some forgiveness on my occasional toe miss, not too thick of a top line or too much offset.  Combined with the PX LZ shafts they are going to be in the bag for a loooong time.

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Modern Bag:  Ping G410+ 9*, Accra TourZ X265 M5;  Snake Eyes 18* & 23* Hybrids; Golfsmith Tour Cavity Forged 3i;  Mizuno JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0;  Cleveland Tour Action 49*, 53*, 57*; PX LZ 6.5 ;  Ping Heppler Fetch;  Ball - Snell MTB-X; Bag - Sun Mountain H2NO 

Classic Bag:  Driver - Wilson Staff Persimmon; 3w - Hogan Speed Slot; 5w - Wilson Staff Tour Block; 3 - pw - Staff Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson;  putter - bullseye standard or flange.

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Callaway, mizuno, Taylormade, Honma, Titlist,  PXG, Cobra, Wilson,  Srixon, hogan, sub70......
 

all manufacturers make great irons and there is a model for you.  I truly believe I could find a set of irons from any manufacturer.  I hit most every model of club during most wanted testing and you can find something that you would like.  What is interesting is everyone has different opinions and their swings result in different sounds and feels.  During one session we were talking clubs and slower swinging player brought a club over for me to hit. Because he thought it was great.  I hit the ball well but the sound was terrible.  He agreed and said it didn’t sound like that when he hit the ball.  I think your miss pattern plays a big part too.  I generally shy away from Cobra because they don’t seem to perform well and have an impact sound I don’t like with a toe strike tendency.  
 

I agree with you that there is a huge difference between GI and Players type clubs.  That said, there are still great clubs in the GI category that provide what you are looking for.  

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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
               :titelist-small: 915H 24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :cleveland-small: 588 54-14, 58-12
Putter:  Bellum Winmore 787

Backups:  :bobby-grace-1: 6330, :taylormade-small:TM-180

 

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I recently switched from Honma TR20 Tour V to the Tour P and they are showing to be more forgiving, which was my hope. Feel isn’t buttery soft, but it’s a strong feel coming off the face. They don’t hit the ball super long, but have a feel I love! They look great too!

I played the original Mizuno Hot Metal Pro irons for a bit and REALLY liked them. Forgiveness and feel were there for sure, the balls just went forever! Take a look at these. Fantastic clubs.

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Driver: :cobra-small: King F9 Speedback, Xphlexxx Busa 2 Liquid, XX stiff, 45”

Fwy: 

Hybrid: :callaway-small: X2 Hot Pro, 20*, :Fuji: Rombax 8D07HB TM27 X

Irons: :honma:TR20 Tour P 4/5, Tour V 6-10, Dynamic Gold X100

Wedges: Vega VW-06 50*/54*/58*, Dynamic Gold S400

Putter:  :edel-golf-1: EAS 1.0

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Ping i210.  Compact head design, minimal offset, exceptional feel with plenty of forgiveness. 

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I would say go Players Distance which is a growing category - 

I’m currently gaming the Wilson D7 forged that I tested for MGS.  Nice look, compact head, not much offset, forged feel but certainly enough forgiveness built in.  Oh and a better price point than most. 
 

as others have stated just about every OEM has this category covered so if you have one that you prefer, go for it. 
 

Good luck 

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Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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I recently switched from Ping G (2016 model), to Srixon ZX5/ZX7 custom combo set (see signature below).  It was a tough decision with all of the iron options out there, but the look and feel, as well as a 30% discount, really pushed me towards the Srixon irons.  I considered Mizuno & Titleist the most, but also looked at Taylormade and Callaway.  There's a longer story with this switch, but I'm sure it's not that interesting for this thread.  

  • In my :mizuno-small: BR-D4 6-way
  • :cobra-small: King F9 set to 9*, Tour length Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 S-flex, with GolfPride MCC +4 mid-size
  • image.png.27e1496834233542c5d124bf8b9e3352.png3W - 13*, UST Mamiya 65 Gold S-flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G
  • :taylormade-small: SIM UDI 2-iron - 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana Thump 100 X-flex, with GolfPride MCC Align
  • :srixon-small: ZX5 4-5 & ZX7 6-PW, :Nippon: Modus3 120 Tour S-flex, +1/2", with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G
  • :titelist-small: :vokey-small: - SM8 Tour Chrome, 50.08F - 54.10S - 58.12D, DG Wedge Flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G
  • :EVNROLL: Custom Fit 35" ER6 Red at 68 degree lie angle and 4 degrees of loft
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4 minutes ago, M. Parsons said:

I recently switched from Ping G (2016 model), to Srixon ZX5/ZX7 custom combo set (see signature below).  It was a tough decision with all of the iron options out there, but the look and feel, as well as a 30% discount, really pushed me towards the Srixon irons.  I considered Mizuno & Titleist the most, but also looked at Taylormade and Callaway.  There's a longer story with this switch, but I'm sure it's not that interesting for this thread.  

30% discount?! That'd be hard to ignore if all else is fairly equal.

I'm a veteran, so PXG, Callaway, and Taylormade (ping to a lesser extent) have nice discounts. That said if I really like the feel of something, I'll pay the extra, as it's a longer term purchase, almost an investment, but the returns will be my paltry scores..

The Mizuno love falls in line with the readers choice article MGS put out recently. I honestly never gave them much of a thought but am very interested as I'm definitely more of a feel player. The Srixon's are interesting for similar reasons, I've never really liked ping clubs but those i210s don't look half bad, but my issue with ping has always been feel. At the end of the day it'll be what the LM says combined with how I like swinging the club/the feel. Good to see all the opinions here though, it helps give ideas of what to look at.

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1 minute ago, MFSOT said:

30% discount?! That'd be hard to ignore if all else is fairly equal.

I'm a veteran, so PXG, Callaway, and Taylormade (ping to a lesser extent) have nice discounts. That said if I really like the feel of something, I'll pay the extra, as it's a longer term purchase, almost an investment, but the returns will be my paltry scores..

The Mizuno love falls in line with the readers choice article MGS put out recently. I honestly never gave them much of a thought but am very interested as I'm definitely more of a feel player. The Srixon's are interesting for similar reasons, I've never really liked ping clubs but those i210s don't look half bad, but my issue with ping has always been feel. At the end of the day it'll be what the LM says combined with how I like swinging the club/the feel. Good to see all the opinions here though, it helps give ideas of what to look at.

I'm a veteran as well, as I'm sure you could already see below my profile pic...but I also joined the VGA (Veteran Golfers Association) https://www.vgagolf.org/ ...Srixon is one of their sponsors, and therefore offer a 30% discount to VGA members.  Srixon is apart of the Cleveland Golf family, along with XXIO, so I think you can get the 30% discount with those brands as well. 

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  • :cobra-small: King F9 set to 9*, Tour length Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 S-flex, with GolfPride MCC +4 mid-size
  • image.png.27e1496834233542c5d124bf8b9e3352.png3W - 13*, UST Mamiya 65 Gold S-flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G
  • :taylormade-small: SIM UDI 2-iron - 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana Thump 100 X-flex, with GolfPride MCC Align
  • :srixon-small: ZX5 4-5 & ZX7 6-PW, :Nippon: Modus3 120 Tour S-flex, +1/2", with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G
  • :titelist-small: :vokey-small: - SM8 Tour Chrome, 50.08F - 54.10S - 58.12D, DG Wedge Flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G
  • :EVNROLL: Custom Fit 35" ER6 Red at 68 degree lie angle and 4 degrees of loft
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5 hours ago, MFSOT said:

I’m a mid/high handicapper, used to be a low handicapper, but a 18 year hiatus has obviously affected my game. I’m in the midst of trying to find a good iron, my problem is I can’t hit the GI irons as there is no feel, I can’t even tell if I hit the ball plus I expect I’ll play out of them fairly quickly. I love the feel and look of a players iron because that’s what I used to play (Titleist 704CB) I understand I need to be fitted (already have been, and have two more fittings scheduled - PXG and Club Champion) This is a post/thread less about me and more about what irons does the MGS community love for feel and forgiveness and some workability.

I forgot to say...welcome to the Forums.  Keep us posted on your improvement and which irons you decide to go with.

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  • In my :mizuno-small: BR-D4 6-way
  • :cobra-small: King F9 set to 9*, Tour length Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 S-flex, with GolfPride MCC +4 mid-size
  • image.png.27e1496834233542c5d124bf8b9e3352.png3W - 13*, UST Mamiya 65 Gold S-flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G
  • :taylormade-small: SIM UDI 2-iron - 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana Thump 100 X-flex, with GolfPride MCC Align
  • :srixon-small: ZX5 4-5 & ZX7 6-PW, :Nippon: Modus3 120 Tour S-flex, +1/2", with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G
  • :titelist-small: :vokey-small: - SM8 Tour Chrome, 50.08F - 54.10S - 58.12D, DG Wedge Flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G
  • :EVNROLL: Custom Fit 35" ER6 Red at 68 degree lie angle and 4 degrees of loft
  • :Snell: MTB-X            :918457628_PrecisionPro: NX7 Pro Slope             Tracked by :Arccos:         #WPS 🐗
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To me feel is a combo of the shaft and head and the feedback felt thru the hands at impact. Finding the right combo goes a long way. I look for a head that gives consistent distance on similar strikes. My good strikes I want to go basically the same distance everytime knowing that a small change in contact point will affect some distance and on my mishits I want to know that they will go in the same direction and lose the same amount of distance compared to my good strikes.

I also want a head that based on sound and feel I know where on the face contact was made.  
 
I have lots of clubs in the bag over the years from pretty much every one of the major brands. Outside of something like the g4xx series from ping, d series from Wilson and some of the gi stuff from cobra I have found most brands offer what I look for. I’ve steered away from the apex lineup after the cf16s because of the inconsistent distance.

My pxg gen3 0311 are a great mixture of what I look for and while slightly different sound compared to the Miura cb301 they have a good feedback and consistent distance

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Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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21 minutes ago, M. Parsons said:

I'm a veteran as well, as I'm sure you could already see below my profile pic...but I also joined the VGA (Veteran Golfers Association) https://www.vgagolf.org/ ...Srixon is one of their sponsors, and therefore offer a 30% discount to VGA members.  Srixon is apart of the Cleveland Golf family, along with XXIO, so I think you can get the 30% discount with those brands as well. 

This is the first I'm hearing about this VGA.  I'm going to have to take a look.

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Just tap it in.  Lil' taparoo.

:honma: TW747 460 10.5° Vizard stiff

:adams-small: Hybrid

:ping-small: Eye2 Irons 3-P :Nippon:Zelos 8 stiff shafts

:cleveland-small: Tour Action 54°/58°

:taylormade-small: Spider Interactive

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1 minute ago, IDontGiveAchuck said:

This is the first I'm hearing about this VGA.  I'm going to have to take a look.

If you have any questions, just private message me. 

  • In my :mizuno-small: BR-D4 6-way
  • :cobra-small: King F9 set to 9*, Tour length Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 S-flex, with GolfPride MCC +4 mid-size
  • image.png.27e1496834233542c5d124bf8b9e3352.png3W - 13*, UST Mamiya 65 Gold S-flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G
  • :taylormade-small: SIM UDI 2-iron - 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana Thump 100 X-flex, with GolfPride MCC Align
  • :srixon-small: ZX5 4-5 & ZX7 6-PW, :Nippon: Modus3 120 Tour S-flex, +1/2", with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G
  • :titelist-small: :vokey-small: - SM8 Tour Chrome, 50.08F - 54.10S - 58.12D, DG Wedge Flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G
  • :EVNROLL: Custom Fit 35" ER6 Red at 68 degree lie angle and 4 degrees of loft
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I am gaming the Miz MP-64’s for the last 6 years.  Forgiving/Workable and feel amazing.  If I was in the market now I would lean towards Miz JPX Combo set or possibly a Titleist blend.  All in all nothing feels better then forged.

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  Titleist 913 5Wood

  Titleist 915 7Wood

  Mizuno MP-64 4i-PW

  Mizuno T-4 50 and 54 Wedges

  Callaway Mack Daddy forged 58

  Odyssey Stroke Labs Double Wide

 

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If you are planning on growing out of this set, I like my Callaway CF16s.  Plenty forgiving for me without being massive GI heads.  Good distance and great feel on flush shots since the face is forged. 

“Golf is deceptively simple and endlessly complicated; it satisfies the soul and frustrates the intellect. It is at the same time rewarding and maddening – and it is without a doubt the greatest game mankind has ever invented.” -Arnold Palmer

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There are quite a few good options and getting fit is the key. I have mainly used Taylormade and Mizuno irons, but tried some Srixon Z565s and they were very impressive (still bummed I sold them). I love new stuff so my most recent model of irons were the JPX 919 line (both Tour and Forged). However, during a fitting for those a couple years ago, the fitter had me try the Ping i200 irons. I wasn't a fan of the look but I was impressed with the dispersion and consistency...but I HAD to have Mizuno irons. Well...I am now a proud owner of i210 irons and while I'm not a fan of the look, these are the perfect blend. Forgiving, Consistent, Workable, and really good feel for a cast iron.  Currently shooting scores half of my handicap (HCP 11) with these. I've never considered PING, but almost my entire bag is now outfitted with PING and I'm not really interested in new stuff anymore 🙂

Driver: :ping-small: G410 LST, HZRDUS Smoke 6.0

3/5 Wood: :callaway-small: Epic Flash, HZRDUS Smoke 6.0

4/5 Hybrid: :ping-small: G410, Alta CB Regular/Stiff

Irons: :ping-small: i210s (6-UW), Alta CB Stiff

Wedges: :ping-small: Glide 3.0 (54, 58 EYE2), Ping Z-Z115

Putter: :odyssey-small: White Hot RX, V-Line Fang, Super Stroke 3.0

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That makes six votes for Mizuno JPX Forged (or HM). The best compromise between feel and forgiveness I’ve found, and that’s exactly what I’m after. “Nothing feels like a Mizuno” may be ad copy, but a lot of players agree wholeheartedly. I do.

I am told the PXG irons have great feel and forgiveness, but I’ve never hit them.

No matter what you buy, at least try the Mizuno JPX Forged irons along with others of interest to you. If you choose something else, all good.

  • Callaway Rogue 10.5° & 3W
  • Mizuno CLK 3H 19°, JPX900 Forged 4-GW, S18 56.10, S18 60.06
  • Evnroll ER5B (replaced ER2)
  • Snell MTB-Black
  • Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT
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