103rd PGA Championship

[aerospace_ray]

Well I am happy that Phil won today. But kinda sad to. So I attend the Regions Tradition (Champions Tour Event) each year and wanted to see him at that event. But it might be awhile now since he proved to himself and now knows he can win on regular tour ......  Anyway, awesome win for him and also good for game of golf IMO what we witnessed today. 

[Middler]

2 minutes ago, LICC said:

A 43 year-old back fused Tiger beat all the top players of today at the Masters, and now a 50-year old Phil beat all the top players of today at the PGA. That shows today’s top players aren’t superior to the talent Phil and Tiger played against in their primes if they can beat these guys even well past their primes. 

Proof by exception, one of your usual MO’s. Take a look at rankings…

[LICC]

1 minute ago, Middler said:

Proof by exception, one of your usual MO’s. Take a look at rankings…

Proof by performance. Your assertion has zero proof. 

[TBT]

1 minute ago, Middler said:

I was sure Phil wouldn’t win again on the regular tour, much less a major, but good for him. Another bullet for his resume, oldest major winner. I saw an interview with Bones, and he thought Phil’s ability to flight the ball in all the wind, was an advantage he had over other players. I know Phil has worked very hard on his fitness and golf, and despite no decent finishes his season so far, he sure put it all together for four days at just the right time. All good.

Yeah it’s crazy that he hadn’t a decent finish on the regular tour this year, then to put it all together in probably the toughest test of golf that they will face all year is just amazing.

After the stumble to start the back 9 yesterday, I thought “ there it is, he’s going to start spraying drives all over” but he slowed himself down and fought through it..and the first 4-5 holes today were a true roller coaster but again he got it together in the middle portion while everyone around him crumbled.

It’s a true testament to just how mentally strong he is.

to watch him come up 18 with the crowd surrounding him, I’ll admit that it got a “little dusty” in my living room.

[GolfSpy_SHARK]

14 minutes ago, LICC said:

A 43 year-old back fused Tiger beat all the top players of today at the Masters, and now a 50-year old Phil beat all the top players of today at the PGA. That shows today’s top players aren’t superior to the talent Phil and Tiger played against in their primes if they can beat these guys even well past their primes. 

It’s great he won, Phil will always be a legend but come on he has been playing rough past few months....Tiger is a different breed. Golf is about consistency not a single win this week. All your hammering of Phil all week and now he’s the best thing since sliced bread 

[daviddvm]

All I have to say is OLD GUYS RULE BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kenny B]

Loved watching Phil win!!  A very good driving tournament for Phil.  For me this was the most entertaining PGA Championship in recent memory.  Now Phil has 5 years worth of US Open chances to win the slam, and next month he is playing it at home the day after he turns 51.  What could be better?

[Golfspy_CG2]

1 hour ago, revkev said:

How so?  

You had to ask

[Golfspy_CG2]

Just another example of how year in and year out the PGA Championship proves to be the most or one of the most exciting Majors of the year.  

[GaDawg]

5 hours ago, LICC said:

Phil’s done. Took just one hole. Oh well, he gave it a great run for three rounds. 

[GaDawg]

5 hours ago, LICC said:

Phil’s nerves are shot. He will be all over the place today. Would have loved to see him sharp but don’t think it is happening. 

[GolfSpy_SHARK]

3 minutes ago, GaDawg said:

You forgot this one

[sirchunksalot]

Great win for Phil, I'm glad to see him hold on and get the trophy. That scene with the crowd was surreal and I bet pretty intimidating for both him and Brooks. 

[revkev]

16 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

You had to ask

Yep - if he wants to keep the thread moving, so can I.

[revkev]

50 minutes ago, LICC said:

A 43 year-old back fused Tiger beat all the top players of today at the Masters, and now a 50-year old Phil beat all the top players of today at the PGA. That shows today’s top players aren’t superior to the talent Phil and Tiger played against in their primes if they can beat these guys even well past their primes. 

I see - so the fact that Phil, a hall of fame, perhaps top 10 all tins player had worked like a fog to get himself into the best shape of his life proves your argument? 
 

im not with you here 

 

Lije the desire to change the OB rule - this own, not so much. 

Modern players are clearly in better shape than their predecessors - the bigger question IMO is, does it matter? It does in your 60’s and 70’s. Does it in your 30’s in mist sports - 40’s and 50’s in others?

Thag would be an I retesting real study - not from isolated results of two all time greats but across the board. 

[Shankster]

Tom Watson nearly did it at 59... anything is possible.  It’s only a matter of times before Ian Woosman wins the Masters again... 

[Shankster]

Heck, maybe Jack will come our of retirement and win it... in his 80’s and I bet he can still get around Augusta.

[Mtbryant01]

I’ll leave this here. Will update my experience (it was incredible) in my thread at some point in the next couple days. 

 

[LICC]

49 minutes ago, revkev said:

I see - so the fact that Phil, a hall of fame, perhaps top 10 all tins player had worked like a fog to get himself into the best shape of his life proves your argument? 
 

im not with you here 

 

Lije the desire to change the OB rule - this own, not so much. 

Modern players are clearly in better shape than their predecessors - the bigger question IMO is, does it matter? It does in your 60’s and 70’s. Does it in your 30’s in mist sports - 40’s and 50’s in others?

Thag would be an I retesting real study - not from isolated results of two all time greats but across the board. 

There may be more players in better shape today, but they aren’t as a whole more talented, skilled or athletic than players from the 1990s. Today’s result shows that. 

[TBT]

15 minutes ago, LICC said:

There may be more players in better shape today, but they aren’t as a whole more talented, skilled or athletic than players from the 1990s. Today’s result shows that. 

No, what today’s results show is that one of the greatest golfers of all time still has the ability to push himself and for a brief amount of time elevate his game to the point that it was when he was in his prime.

It says nothing about the rest of today’s players...absolutely nothing!

This week was about 1 man, Phil Mickelson, showing that he could turn back the clock and play at the level he did 20 years ago, which by the way is a level that made him one of the top 10, maybe even top 5 players of all time.

 

[LICC]

10 minutes ago, TBT said:

No, what today’s results show is that one of the greatest golfers of all time still has the ability to push himself and for a brief amount of time elevate his game to the point that it was when he was in his prime.

It says nothing about the rest of today’s players...absolutely nothing!

This week was about 1 man, Phil Mickelson, showing that he could turn back the clock and play at the level he did 20 years ago, which by the way is a level that made him one of the top 10, maybe even top 5 players of all time.

 

Of course it informs us about today’s players- they are the ones competing against him. 

[TBT]

11 minutes ago, LICC said:

Of course it informs us about today’s players- they are the ones competing against him. 

You totally ignore the fact that he is one of the 10 best players EVER! In Phil’s prime if he has his “A” game not many of today’s players are in his league...it say much more about Phil keeping himself physically and mentally capable of playing at that level.

If it was just about today’s players being not better than the average player from the 90’s then we would see more guys from the Champions Tour winning on the regular tour.

You are using Tiger and Phil to try to make a point but you aren’t accounting for the fact that they are in a league of their own....you can’t compare average tour players against 2 of the greatest of all time. No more than you could say the the average players in 1986 were no better physical shape than Jack when he won the 86 Masters. Again that was the Greatest off all time turning back the clock for a brief time to win a major.

[Crashtestdummy]

Phil just played fantastic this week. Outplayed the field. Watch out for him at the US Open on his home course. Oosthuizen still impresses at majors. His ball striking is pure. If he could putt, he would be holding more major trophies. 

[PMookie]

This is awesome! Apparently Phil’s Mom was doing “Mom things” and nervously texting Phil’s sister during the final round. So perfect!!!

[Chip Strokes]

5 minutes ago, PMookie said:

This is awesome! Apparently Phil’s Mom was doing “Mom things” and nervously texting Phil’s sister during the final round. So perfect!!!

don’t hit bombs or activate calves

[LICC]

11 hours ago, GaDawg said:

I’m damn proud of Phil. I believed in him all along ...

Edited May 24, 2021 by LICC

[StrokerAce]

pretty impressive that he won on the longest course in championship history using a soft golf ball.

so, is soft really slow?

[ole gray]

Soooooooooooooo happy Phil won! 

[Chip Strokes]

the average age of all of the winners in the 2020/21 season is 33.34, and the average age of the top 50 OWGR is even younger, at 31.54.

the young talent on tour wins out.  young players are better, more athletic, and there are far more of them now than there ever were before.

phil winning this week was a complete anomaly.  it shouldn't have happened.  the oldest (regular) competitor on tour won on the longest track in major history.  

that speaks only to phil's immense all-time talent, his willingness to consistently reinvent his game, and his ability to perform under pressure.  there's no reason at all to take that away from phil by trying to diminish how good the younger, more athletic players on tour are.  if anything, the tour being as young and as deep as it is only serves to make phil's win even more incredible.

@LICCi've waffled on my opinion of you since you've started posting, but now i have to officially consider you a troll.  i think you'd argue with yourself just to listen to your own self-aggrandizing opinions (and we've actually seen that in the screen shots posted in this thread where you called for Phil's meltdown and then praised his win, only then to cheapen it by saying the talent on tour isn't all that good).  

 

[Golfspy_CG2]

5 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

the average age of all of the winners in the 2020/21 season is 33.34, and the average age of the top 50 OWGR is even younger, at 31.54.

the young talent on tour wins out.  young players are better, more athletic, and there are far more of them now than there ever were before.

phil winning this week was a complete anomaly.  it shouldn't have happened.  the oldest (regular) competitor on tour won on the longest track in major history.  

that speaks only to phil's immense all-time talent, his willingness to consistently reinvent his game, and his ability to perform under pressure.  there's no reason at all to take that away from phil by trying to diminish how good the younger, more athletic players on tour are.  if anything, the tour being as young and as deep as it is only serves to make phil's win even more incredible.

@LICCi've waffled on my opinion of you since you've started posting, but now i have to officially consider you a troll.  i think you'd argue with yourself just to listen to your own self-aggrandizing opinions (and we've actually seen that in the screen shots posted in this thread where you called for Phil's meltdown and then praised his win, only then to cheapen it by saying the talent on tour isn't all that good).  

 

I couldn't decide whether to Love or Laugh at this post as it was so spot on,   also if we had a golf clap emoji option it would be perfect.   Hmh?  Maybe I know a moderator that can look into that.    Instead I'll just add it here!