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Have narrowed a new driver down to two finalists.  Any suggestions or reasons to pick one over the other.  77 year old trying for max consistency and distance,(of course)

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Better comparison would be SIM2 Max vs Vs G425 Max and SIM2 vs G425lst. 
 

without knowing anything about your swing dynamics it’s literally impossible to say which one would fit you best

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@jlukes makes good points, but assuming you’ve tested several different options and have come down to those 2, I would say whichever one gives you the best performance (dispersion, spin rate, etc.).

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I haven’t hit the Taylormade, but I have the 425 with the stock Alta shaft in senior flex. I find it to be very forgiving and as long as anything else I have tried. Obviously, it would be best if you test could both on a launch monitor. Good luck. 

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Ping G400 Max

Cobra King F9 Speedback 3 wood

Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood

Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees

Taylormade M4 5 hybrid

Callaway Mavrik Max 6-GW

PXG 0211 5-GW

PXG 0211 sand wedge bent to 53 degrees

Maltby M Series+ 54 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree

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Sir, I would go to a certified fitter and get on trackman and see which one gives you the best results with the right shaft.  I am 75 and would never purchase a new club without a fitting.  I just order the the new TSi3 from Titleist with the Fujikura Speeder Tour 64 shaft and inside was hitting the prov1 ball 230 pretty darn accurately.  I feel with a few rounds it will increase.  I am a definite proponent of golf fittings to get your best results, because the club is the designed just for my swing.  Trackman does not lie.  With respect.   

 

 

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Just now, ChuckZ said:

Sir, I would go to a certified fitter and get on trackman and see which one gives you the best results with the right shaft.  I am 75 and would never purchase a new club without a fitting.  I just order the the new TSi3 from Titleist with the Fujikura Speeder Tour 64 shaft and inside was hitting the prov1 ball 230 pretty darn accurately.  I feel with a few rounds it will increase.  I am a definite proponent of golf fittings to get your best results, because the club is the designed just for my swing.  Trackman does not lie.  With respect.   

My fitter is a certified fitter for ping and sells a lot of their drivers and recommends them to our age customers.  Have not heard any complaints.  But that does not mean either are the right club for you without the right shaft.  At our age we want accuracy and down the middle.  

 

 

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I'm 70 and a fitter. I'd recommend the Ping G425MAX with the stock Alta shaft in soft regular (senior). I have a G400MAX at 44.5", I'm 6' tall, and was fit by Ping at the PGA Show. The stock length is 45 3/4" and I would recommend hitting shorter shafts where ever you're making the purchase. Most pros hit shorter shafts because when you hit the sweet spot, you get more distance and accuracy. Longer drivers are a definite mistake for most amateurs and it is more marketing than realism. If you buy a shorter driver, order it so the weighting is proper, or have a certified builder add the proper weight. Doesn't cost much and worth it.

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Recently upgraded from TM M4 with regular shaft to G425 max with Alta Stiff.  Fitted by ping staff with aid of trackman. Was shocked to be put in the stiff shaft but performs best.  Little longer than M4 but dispersion is much tighter.  Moral tone story, get fitted with help of technology 

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19 hours ago, Beaumissy said:

Have narrowed a new driver down to two finalists.  Any suggestions or reasons to pick one over the other.  77 year old trying for max consistency and distance,(of course)

I would say Ping G425 all day long. My father, about your age, plays it and its the best overall driver he's ever owned, per him. And it seems like he's owned them all. I love it that a 77 year old is still chasing the dream!!! Keep at it! 

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I hit the sim2 considerably farther on good strikes  than the 425, or my 410Lst; but I’m not consistent enough to game it. I game ping drivers because they offer the most forgiveness in my opinion. So what matters to you? Max distance? Fairways hit?  For my game, I just want to see the same shape/flight on every swing, and ping gives me that.  So I’d ask the OP what matters most to their game, and pick whichever driver offers that.

 

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I’m not far behind you in age and thought you might find a suggestion from another old duffer helpful.  I have not hit a Sim2 driver, but I own Ping G400 and G410 drivers, with regular and soft regular (SR) flex shafts, respectively.  I’m keeping up in distance with guys 10 years my junior with my Ping drivers and my control is respectable as well.  Ping makes some outstanding drivers; I don’t believe you could go wrong with Ping. 

Started playing late in life, but as I got older I found that golf is a much better activity than a lot of things old folks get into, plus I meet some of the nicest most interesting people!

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I did this in April. There was no doubt that the Sim2 Max (for me) was longer than the Ping G425Max, but so was my M5. HOWEVER, me and Twist Face do not get along. It seems that it was made for people who swing out to in. My in to out swing and a hit toe hit or low heel hit created huge hooks and slices. The TM drivers I can miss by 40 yards. The Ping while shorter (on the monitor) was mostly dead straight with the occasional 5-10 yard miss. 
 

Most of my missed fairways this weekend (played 5 rounds) have been from trying to fade or draw the ball, and it simply going straight and running out of fairway. I’m growing more confident in this driver and I have been hitting the G425Max as far as my old M5 and much straighter. I also have the 9 wood and plan on the 7 and 3 woods. I bought a G410 5 wood and will determine if it is worth the extra bucks G425Max, if the 5 wood ever gets here.   
 

My decision was based on there was not a club difference in the overall distance between these 2 drivers, but there could be a whole stroke difference in having a shot at the green and having to punch out. 

 

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Fairway:   :ping-small:  G410 3 wood LST & 5  Wood Flat on :ping-small: Alta CB 65R

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Hybrid:     :ping-small:  G425MAX  6 H Flat on :ping-small: Alta CB 65R

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I tried the TaylorMade and found it hard to keep it in the fairway. I love the Ping very consistent in keeping it in fairway and distance was equal to the TaylorMade. 

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Mostly likely the TaylorMade will give you more spin/height and the Ping less, but it depends on YOUR swing and what you are trying to keep/change.

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On 5/29/2021 at 5:46 PM, Beaumissy said:

Have narrowed a new driver down to two finalists.  Any suggestions or reasons to pick one over the other.  77 year old trying for max consistency and distance,(of course)

Titlest ts2 I find it to be forgicing and long

 

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If you've got a smooth swing with a smooth changeover at the top put them both on the shelf with an XXIO. I changed to an XXIO Prime 9 last year and gained 15-20 yards and more consistency than I had been getting. Try to find someplace that will let you hit them outside so you can actually see the ball fly through the air. I think Global Golf will let you hit one and return it. There are likely other companies that will do that as well. It was such a great feeling to see the ball fly past where I normally hit it and still be in the fairway. XXIO costs more but for me, it was worth it. I'm now contemplating getting a 3 wood and irons if I can get the shoulder that I messed up the rotator cuff repaired. 

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17 hours ago, Tom23 said:

Mostly likely the TaylorMade will give you more spin/height and the Ping less, but it depends on YOUR swing and what you are trying to keep/change.

Sorry to disagree but I think the numbers would suggest that on average Taylor Made drivers spin less than their Ping counterparts.

 

@the OP this is so hard to say without knowing your numbers. I have tried the Sim2 Max v the Ping G410 and G410 LST.  The Sim2 max easily won that battle outdoors on track man (with range balls) and so far it is on the course also.  It spins less than either of those heads - We were able to get my launch angle the same with all three heads - the G410 and Sim2 max by opening the club a notch the 410 LST by closing it (adding launch.)

 

In regards to fitting if that’s what you do, ask for your numbers. I’ve been fit for stuff tons of times and have been

misfit a couple of them.  If the fitter doesn’t know your game he’s fitting a snap shot - you will know whether you brought your A or D swing - if it’s one of those days it could be an expensive result.

 

Also while I have respect for any fitter I must write with all due respect that it’s no longer the case that most players on tour use driver shafts under 45” and it’s certainly not true of LPGA players who are the far better point of comparison for most of us.  The notion of a sub 45” driver shaft automatically being best for all is dated - it’s not necessarily the case anymore. 
 

It is certainly the case that if you are fit for a shorter length shaft the weighting will be proper if you order direct from the OEM. The waiting will be longer, too. 🙂

 

The simple answer to your question is to look at the results of the most wanted driver test for slower swing speeds or if you know your numbers plunk down $7 on trufit and see what it spits out.

 

Good luck 
 

 

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Ping G410 5-9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

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45 minutes ago, revkev said:

Sorry to disagree but I think the numbers would suggest that on average Taylor Made drivers spin less than their Ping counterparts.

Agree. TM in general and especially the sim and sim2 drivers are lower spinning drivers compared to other brands in the same categories. The ping Max drivers have been some of the spinnier heads on the market.

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