New irons!

[pooley7]

After 12 years of my current set (Ping S57’s) I’ve finally taken the plunge and ordered a new set of custom fit Mizuno irons.

After a few sessions, which involved taking a couple of different options out onto the course, I’ve placed my order for a set - 4 to PW of Mizuno MP20 irons. I’ve gone for a combo set with MP20 HMB 4 & 5 irons and MP20 MMC in the 6 to PW.

KBS C Taper Lite stiff shafts, 1” longer than standard, bent 2 degrees upright and 2 degrees weaker than standard.

It’s taken a few fittings to get to this final spec and I want to thank my local pro for being (very) patient with me and my plethora of questions.
 

So. The order is in. 
Now I’ve just go to wait 4 to 8 weeks (maybe) for them to arrive

[Kanoito]

Now that's the hardest part... waiting...

Congratz on the purchase, I see Mizuno, I upvote! 

[Stephen C Wilson]

That sounds so good with the on course trial testing and the two models. Hope everything works great for you!!

[Billy-Bo-Jim-Bob]

I went for MMC's in November.....great choice! I might go HMB in the long one's after this season.

[DavidLPS]

I am 68 years old and a 16.6 HDCP currently. Seven years ago I went to Cool Clubs for custom fitting and have been pretty pleased with the clubs, though several years ago, at significant expense, I pulled the 7 wood (Callaway X2 Hot)and the 6 iron (T/M Speed Blade) and added a 3 hybrid and 6 hybrid, matching the expensive shaft and model of club. About a year ago, due to a slower swing speed (about 80 mph now vs about 87 seven years ago), I went to Club Champion and got fitted for a Maverick (14 degree setup), which has helped regain some lost yardage, average about 218 off tee with it. Seven years ago, my hybrids were fitted with stiff shafts. On a whim, unlike me, I just ordered a set of Cleveland Turbo Launcher hybrid irons with senior shafts (4-GW). Since I went from 4, 5 and 6 hybrids to hybrid irons, those three clubs are 1 1/2 inches shorter!  Thus, I am now a full club shorter, which is NOT what I am after. And the other irons 7-GW are a half inch shorter so at best I am same distance with those, actually maybe five yards shorter with each. I have paid for a full fitting at Club Champion (as Covid hit early last year) so think I’ll proceed with completing that since my self-diagnosing hasn’t worked out as well as hoped. I will fess up to Club Champion but the performance they have to beat is the previous set, not the hybrid irons. I hit 72% of FW’s YTD after 61 rounds, but only 22% of greens. I am a poor chipper and a decent putter. Other than the distance loss, I like the hybrid irons. I am a poor FW wood player, but have a very tight dispersion with hybrids. Currently carrying driver, 3 and 4 hybrids (from old set (Callaway X2Hot, stiff shafts), hybrid irons 4-GW, putter and my old LW and GW (mostly fir bunker play. Does anyone have any advice or counsel?  I have thought of just going to Roger Dunn and spending a load of money simply getting a quality senior shaft that is longer but that again is self-diagnosing. Age eventually gets all of us but I intend to have the best equipment for my game, whatever level it is. Thanks!

 

 

[Nj2StL]

I find the 2 degrees weak interesting and refreshing considering so many "std" lofts are stronger and stronger.  Did you work off of a target stock yardage by club to get to that? 

[mywong23]

David LPS,

I emphasize with your pain....

Probably most aging, mid-high handicappers, would too.  

as our swings and bodies and muscles change... 

ultra-detailed fittings--- well, I wish they'd provide a definitive answer,

but even if so temporarily, that probably changes in 6 months.

 

Be happy that you can keep enjoying golf.

Cherish the birdies and try not to get too down on yourself for missing that sweet spot.

mike  

[mywong23]

9 hours ago, pooley7 said:

Now I’ve just go to wait 4 to 8 weeks (maybe) for them to arrive

wishing you the best with your new clubs.... when they finally arrive

[Beakbryce]

David LPS- in the same boat age wise. If you can find an adjustable hybrid set that you like, like the Big Bertha 19, you can order new weaker shafts in a couple of years and keep the clubheads. I ended up ordering women's clubs on the preowned site and then appropriate shafts for my wife and I, and that came out way cheaper than ordering the mens clubs. In a few years when I go to softer shafts, can just order the shaft.

You can use this for a lot of things as well. Are you not comfortable with FW because of the shaft length? You can buy shorter shafts and just screw them in.

Hope this helps.

Don

[DavidLPS]

30 minutes ago, mywong23 said:

David LPS,

I emphasize with your pain....

Probably most aging, mid-high handicappers, would too.  

as our swings and bodies and muscles change... 

ultra-detailed fittings--- well, I wish they'd provide a definitive answer,

but even if so temporarily, that probably changes in 6 months.

 

Be happy that you can keep enjoying golf.

Cherish the birdies and try not to get too down on yourself for missing that sweet spot.

mike  

Thanks Mike!  Yes indeed, I feel lucky to be able to golf as much as I do. And pretty healthy, thank God, other than the every other week chiropractor visit, a small price to pay. 

[DavidLPS]

17 minutes ago, Beakbryce said:

David LPS- in the same boat age wise. If you can find an adjustable hybrid set that you like, like the Big Bertha 19, you can order new weaker shafts in a couple of years and keep the clubheads. I ended up ordering women's clubs on the preowned site and then appropriate shafts for my wife and I, and that came out way cheaper than ordering the mens clubs. In a few years when I go to softer shafts, can just order the shaft.

You can use this for a lot of things as well. Are you not comfortable with FW because of the shaft length? You can buy shorter shafts and just screw them in.

Hope this helps.

Don

Yes Don, I guess it is the length of the FW shafts. But I know shorter shafts likely means shorter distance. So after the driver, maybe the 180-185 that I get out of the 3 hybrid is the best I can realistically get. Though if the ball is on a slight incline, I get an extra 5-10 yards from it. As I mentioned, I like the look and feel of the hybrid set, but need the little longer shafts. 

[Joefreddy]

Pooley7 I feel for you. The wait is unbearable. I ordered new Mizuno irons also this spring from a small shop here in Columbus, Ohio and still waiting. I got fitted for the JPX921 Hot Metal Pros. Can’t wait to get them. I’m sure they know my phone number by heart by now. Even called the factory (don’t bother…doesn’t help, but they were nice)

[pooley7]

2 hours ago, Nj2StL said:

I find the 2 degrees weak interesting and refreshing considering so many "std" lofts are stronger and stronger.  Did you work off of a target stock yardage by club to get to that? 

I’m not looking for increased distance, but I’m getting it, by about one club.

So the main purpose of the 2 degrees weak is to try to reign in the distance a bit. With the added bonus of more bounce, less offset and hopefully some added spin.

[pooley7]

1 hour ago, Joefreddy said:

Pooley7 I feel for you. The wait is unbearable. I ordered new Mizuno irons also this spring from a small shop here in Columbus, Ohio and still waiting. I got fitted for the JPX921 Hot Metal Pros. Can’t wait to get them. I’m sure they know my phone number by heart by now. Even called the factory (don’t bother…doesn’t help, but they were nice)

Good choice. I knew when I ordered them that I’d be in for a wait and hope that you were too.

The good news is that, at the end of the day, we’ll have a brand new set of Mizunos one day soon(ish)

[Slypanther]

3 hours ago, pooley7 said:

I’m not looking for increased distance, but I’m getting it, by about one club.

So the main purpose of the 2 degrees weak is to try to reign in the distance a bit. With the added bonus of more bounce, less offset and hopefully some added spin.

With my most recent MB purchase I also bent the forgings 2 degrees weak; less offset, added bounce. I desire a proper gapping between clubs, max distance is not what I want, but knowing that a distance is covered by a club I swing well. One club fitter did not agree with my preferred club setup. I like to soft step a X100 steel iron shaft and swing weight at D6, better feel for the club head and the added weight flexes the shaft a hairline more. I have tried S400 with D2 - D3 swing weight but just do not feel the club as well.

[Blueberry_Squishie]

Nice choice. When I was fit for mine, we tried a combo set like that but the HMBs flew a bit high, so ended up with all MMCs.

[NRJyzr]

17 hours ago, DavidLPS said:

Yes Don, I guess it is the length of the FW shafts. But I know shorter shafts likely means shorter distance. So after the driver, maybe the 180-185 that I get out of the 3 hybrid is the best I can realistically get. Though if the ball is on a slight incline, I get an extra 5-10 yards from it. As I mentioned, I like the look and feel of the hybrid set, but need the little longer shafts. 

It doesn't necessarily mean less distance.  We all have our own point of diminishing returns on club length, where increasing it does nothing, or even hurts your swingspeed.

Which is how I have my drivers at 43.25" to 43.5" these days.  Lead tape is my friend.

This is independent of contact quality.  If your ability to center the ball on the clubface improves, there's potential for increased distance.

There's really only one way to find out how it works out for you.