ballplayer002003 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Ok gang, over the 4th of July, I will be playing Golden Horseshoe...what tips can you give me? We are playing both courses. Any local knowledge is appreciated. cnosil 1 Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, ballplayer002003 said: Ok gang, over the 4th of July, I will be playing Golden Horseshoe...what tips can you give me? We are playing both courses. Any local knowledge is appreciated. What do you want to know? I can try and help or if there is something specific I can reach out to Harry at headquarters; he is a member. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjudge Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 On 6/11/2021 at 1:27 PM, ballplayer002003 said: Ok gang, over the 4th of July, I will be playing Golden Horseshoe...what tips can you give me? We are playing both courses. Any local knowledge is appreciated. Both are excellent golf courses. My wife and I go to Williamsburg at least every couple of years and we play both the Gold and Green courses (and usually a few other courses in the area). I believe that they just renovated the Gold course in the last 2 years, and that one was always my favorite, but I haven't played it since the renovations due to COVID restrictions. Quote DR - Callaway Paradym X, Newton Motion 4-Dot 4W - T.E. Exotics C722, Diamana D+ 82-S HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft 7W (if played) - Callaway Epic Flash, ACCRA Tour X 80S Irons - Cobra Forged Tec X (5-GW), KBS TGI 75-R Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Putter - Makefield VS custom, 34", 67* lie, 1.75* loft Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) or Vice Pro Plus (OnCore ELIXR or Maxfli Tour S in winter) Bags - Vessel Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmcman Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 We played both courses on the same day in late April. We found the conditioning on the Gold to be superior to the Green. The temperature then was in the low 90's and is forecast to be around that on the 4th. You are looking at close to 9 hours in overbearing heat with humidity in the 80 - 90% range. We were drinking 1-2 bottles of water \ gatorade per hole during the afternoon round, and were struggling to stay hydrated. So my best advice is that whenever you have an opportunity to buy water \ gatorade, buy as much as you can carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTVMAN Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Play The River course at Kingsmill, with 17 and 18 from the tips! ForeRightAgain 1 Quote Certified Club Fitter. Ping G425 Max Driver 10.5° w/Fujikura Ventus TR Ping G425 Max 5-7-9 Fairway Woods w/Ping Alta CB Ping G425 Irons 5-U w/Ping Alta CB (Power-Spec Lofts) Ping 4.0 Eye2 Glide Wedges 54°-58° w/Recoil SmacWrap Ping Redwood ZB Putter w/PP58 PING Pioneer Cart Bag Lamkin Sonar+ Wrap Mid-Size Grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 53 minutes ago, HDTVMAN said: Play The River course at Kingsmill, with 17 and 18 from the tips! Have to be a resort guest or a member to play the river course. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjudge Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, jimmcman said: We played both courses on the same day in late April. We found the conditioning on the Gold to be superior to the Green. The temperature then was in the low 90's and is forecast to be around that on the 4th. You are looking at close to 9 hours in overbearing heat with humidity in the 80 - 90% range. We were drinking 1-2 bottles of water \ gatorade per hole during the afternoon round, and were struggling to stay hydrated. So my best advice is that whenever you have an opportunity to buy water \ gatorade, buy as much as you can carry. I have played all 36 (both Gold and Green courses) in a single day a few times, but never in 90*+ heat, although a few days were close to 90* F. I concur that, with the high humidity that the area usually suffers from, it can be rather taxing on the body and staying hydrated is difficult at times. I'm glad to hear that the Gold Course is in great shape following the renovations/restoration. My wife and I have been talking about going down and playing there this summer. Edited June 13, 2021 by funkyjudge Quote DR - Callaway Paradym X, Newton Motion 4-Dot 4W - T.E. Exotics C722, Diamana D+ 82-S HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft 7W (if played) - Callaway Epic Flash, ACCRA Tour X 80S Irons - Cobra Forged Tec X (5-GW), KBS TGI 75-R Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Putter - Makefield VS custom, 34", 67* lie, 1.75* loft Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) or Vice Pro Plus (OnCore ELIXR or Maxfli Tour S in winter) Bags - Vessel Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballplayer002003 Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 14 hours ago, HDTVMAN said: Play The River course at Kingsmill, with 17 and 18 from the tips! The River course I believe will be under maintenance. I think we looked into this when we booked and that was what we were told. I hear it's a great course! Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballplayer002003 Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 12 hours ago, funkyjudge said: I have played all 36 (both Gold and Green courses) in a single day a few times, but never in 90*+ heat, although a few days were close to 90* F. I concur that, with the high humidity that the area usually suffers from, it can be rather taxing on the body and staying hydrated is difficult at times. I'm glad to hear that the Gold Course is in great shape following the renovations/restoration. My wife and I have been talking about going down and playing there this summer. I'm not too worried about the heat, we usually play Pinehurst in mid July every year, and if you have ever played down there, then you know heat. Especially when you play Tobacco Road. It's almost as if the devil himself will leave you alone there because it's too damn hot. That being said, I know there is a need to respect the heat and humidity. We plan on staying overly hydrated with water, not alcohol/sodas. Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballplayer002003 Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 On 6/11/2021 at 1:32 PM, cnosil said: What do you want to know? I can try and help or if there is something specific I can reach out to Harry at headquarters; he is a member. I guess the main thing is, are there any holes that from the tee you want to play a certain shot, but once you get to your ball you realize you could have played a different one (say 5 iron off tee, but then get to ball and realize you could hit driver)? Any holes play longer or shorter than actual distance? Are there a lot of elevation changes? We have a foursome playing, but if anyone wants to meet up, Harry included, I can give you the dates and times we are playing. Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, ballplayer002003 said: I guess the main thing is, are there any holes that from the tee you want to play a certain shot, but once you get to your ball you realize you could have played a different one (say 5 iron off tee, but then get to ball and realize you could hit driver)? Any holes play longer or shorter than actual distance? Are there a lot of elevation changes? We have a foursome playing, but if anyone wants to meet up, Harry included, I can give you the dates and times we are playing. Yes there are elevation changes. I don’t play the courses often enough to have that kind of detail but I’ll ask Harry if he has any tips to playing the courses. ballplayer002003 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom the Golf Nut Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 There are a few videos on YouTube with people recording the rounds. The second hole looks like it will be fun. I played the course over 20years ago and didn't remember much until I started watching whats out there on YouTube. ballplayer002003 1 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Tour UST Recoil 95 R Flex (6 - Gap) Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Agera 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 hours ago, ballplayer002003 said: I guess the main thing is, are there any holes that from the tee you want to play a certain shot, but once you get to your ball you realize you could have played a different one (say 5 iron off tee, but then get to ball and realize you could hit driver)? Any holes play longer or shorter than actual distance? Are there a lot of elevation changes? We have a foursome playing, but if anyone wants to meet up, Harry included, I can give you the dates and times we are playing. Harry asked me how far you hit your driver Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeRightAgain Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 19 hours ago, jimmcman said: We played both courses on the same day in late April. We found the conditioning on the Gold to be superior to the Green. The temperature then was in the low 90's and is forecast to be around that on the 4th. You are looking at close to 9 hours in overbearing heat with humidity in the 80 - 90% range. We were drinking 1-2 bottles of water \ gatorade per hole during the afternoon round, and were struggling to stay hydrated. So my best advice is that whenever you have an opportunity to buy water \ gatorade, buy as much as you can carry. Been in Williamsburg two summers in a row in July. Heat was a factor, especially on the back 9 , even with an 8:30am tee time. Hopefully they have a cart girl on the course. ballplayer002003 1 Quote Driver: Cobra F6 3W: Titleist TSi3 5W: TM RocketBallz -(my favorite club) Hybrids: Cleveland 2-4 Irons: Callaway Apex DCB 4-PW Wedges: Titleist Vokey SMB 52 & 56 Putter: TM Rossa Monte Carlo Mallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballplayer002003 Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 hours ago, cnosil said: Harry asked me how far you hit your driver 290-310, distance with driver is not a problem. I do draw the ball. Don't know if that will help or hurt there. Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 21 hours ago, ballplayer002003 said: 290-310, distance with driver is not a problem. I do draw the ball. Don't know if that will help or hurt there. Harry said he doesn’t play the green (to busy) too much so he doesn’t have notes. Here are his notes on the gold based on your driver distance: If it’s firm and fast which it should be he should hit iron off 1, maybe 5 if pins at front, 8,13 Hit driver on 2,4, maybe 5 to go for green, 6 you have to be really straight, 10,11,14,15,17,18 you can aim at bunk and draw around corner. 3 plays a club short, 7 plays a club longer, 12 plays 10-15 yards less, 16 plays 10-15 yards less hope this helps ballplayer002003 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballplayer002003 Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 On 6/15/2021 at 9:51 AM, cnosil said: Harry said he doesn’t play the green (to busy) too much so he doesn’t have notes. Here are his notes on the gold based on your driver distance: If it’s firm and fast which it should be he should hit iron off 1, maybe 5 if pins at front, 8,13 Hit driver on 2,4, maybe 5 to go for green, 6 you have to be really straight, 10,11,14,15,17,18 you can aim at bunk and draw around corner. 3 plays a club short, 7 plays a club longer, 12 plays 10-15 yards less, 16 plays 10-15 yards less hope this helps That's perfect!!!! Tell Harry thanks for the Dingers of knowledge! That's exactly what I was looking for. cnosil 1 Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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