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Anything other than the outdoor use prompting the change?

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If you somehow have some overlap, @GolfSpy MPR, would love to see comparison data from the same 'good' strikes!

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Just now, THEZIPR23 said:

Anything other than the outdoor use prompting the change?

That's really the biggest factor: the ability to have a small device (the Mevo can fit in a bag) that I could take the course really appeals to me. This is especially since I cannot swing a driver in my garage. Driving is easily the weakest part of my game, and I'm hoping to be able to get some intelligent feedback on it with the Mevo.

Another consideration is the ability to play sim rounds without additional fees (though it does require the purchase of a new iDevice for me).

I really have no complaints with the SkyTrak. I know there are guys who have been less than thrilled with its performance measuring the highest speed shots, but since that's not my game (and I can't use it with driver anyway) that's never been an issue for me.

1 minute ago, GolfSpy_TCG said:

If you somehow have some overlap, @GolfSpy MPR, would love to see comparison data from the same 'good' strikes!

Definitely! If it's not sold and shipped by next week, I'll absolutely do some comparisons.

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3 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

I figured that, since I pulled the trigger on the Father's Day discount on a Mevo+, I needed to start this thread as a parallel to my SkyTrak thread. (If anyone is wondering, I am selling the SkyTrak. I'd rather sell here than eBay, so shoot me an offer!)

Why am I making this move? The biggest reason is that the Mevo+ offers the flexibility of use indoor and outdoor (the SkyTrak struggles in direct sunlight, which I experienced firsthand this spring). Our garage is big enough (I'm nearly certain) to allow the Mevo+ to work inside; the space needed for the Mevo+ inside is the biggest knock on it.

But over the next few months, I'll update this thread with my thoughts on the Mevo+, especially compared to the SkyTrak (since they're about the same price point). Currently, UPS is showing a delivery date of next Wednesday, so I'll be burning up my F5 button until the brown truck arrives.

If you have any particular questions about either device, post it! I've had two years with my SkyTrak, so I think I've got a good handle on that LM.

Also, a bit of a BST note here: if anyone has an older (but not too old) iPad or iPhone that's no longer needed, shoot me a DM. It has to be an iPhone 8 or an iPad 5th gen (both of which were released in 2017; or newer, but I'm looking for cheap, not awesome). The Mevo+ includes the option of playing sim golf on iOS, but I'm an Android diehard.

Congratulations on getting the Mevo+! I can't wait to see how it performs for you. If you have a hard time finding a used iPad or iPhone, you can pick up an 8th generation iPad on Amazon for $299. I don't think you'll have a problem finding something used, but thought I'd throw that option out there for you. 

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12 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

... but I'm an Android diehard.

YES! 

Separately, I'll likely never pull the trigger on such a setup (and currently have nowhere in the house to fit it), I'll live vicariously through you and this thread. 😁

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I like the feature set and the size but the I device only makes it a non starter. Will for sure give it a go if they ever do support Android.

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Dude, me too! 😂

You're B/S/T inspired me to look at their sale, so thank you for that! I have enough space to make it work in the garage with close to 13' of flight. The only knock I could find was that it sometimes struggles on short indoor mode indoors with driver just because the flight window is short. But everything else has me super excited. 

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@GolfSpy MPR and @edingc you lucky dogs! But then again I don't need sim golf in the winter or anything...

 

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5 hours ago, edingc said:

Dude, me too! 😂

You're B/S/T inspired me to look at their sale, so thank you for that! I have enough space to make it work in the garage with close to 13' of flight. The only knock I could find was that it sometimes struggles on short indoor mode indoors with driver just because the flight window is short. But everything else has me super excited. 

Hey Edingc, I noticed you listed your Mevo on B/S/T... I am considering the Mevo (maybe yours) what was your decision to move to the Mevo+.  What do you feel you are gaining for the additional ~$1200 in cost?  Thanks, Tim.

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1 hour ago, Tiftaaft said:

Hey Edingc, I noticed you listed your Mevo on B/S/T... I am considering the Mevo (maybe yours) what was your decision to move to the Mevo+.  What do you feel you are gaining for the additional ~$1200 in cost?  Thanks, Tim.

The short answer is spin axis/direction. It makes it possible for me to hit balls indoors during the winter and know roughly where they ended up, both in distance and direction.

The regular Mevo is great for measuring swing speeds, ball speeds and distance. But it doesn't show anything in terms of horizontal movement. So I could pound balls for hours hitting cuts or draws and never really know.

In the past I drove an hour round trip once a week to use a heated range where I could see flight. But I'm not going to do that this upcoming winter.

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3 minutes ago, edingc said:

The short answer is spin axis/direction.

Thanks for the quick response.  That makes sense.  I live in Houston... there are not many days in the year that the range isn't available (this past February notwithstanding). I will say the spin enhancements on the Mevo+ is a nice metric to have.  Even at $2000 - the ability to have a shot tracer in your bag is tremendous!  Good luck with the "+".  

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Congrats guys! I love my Mevo+! I have had it since early December (waited nearly 2 months for it). You won't regret it!

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What are the mevo + requirements to hit indoors?

 

 

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9 hours ago, TBT said:

What are the mevo + requirements to hit indoors?

8 feet sensor to ball and 8 feet of ball flight.   Have seen some recommendations that a room that is 16x10x10 is the minimum size. 

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3 hours ago, cnosil said:

8 feet sensor to ball and 8 feet of ball flight.   Have seen some recommendations that a room that is 16x10x10 is the minimum size. 

Thanks, that’s what I was afraid of, kinda leaves out setting it up in the garage unfortunately 

 

 

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On 6/11/2021 at 4:06 PM, GolfSpy MPR said:

I figured that, since I pulled the trigger on the Father's Day discount on a Mevo+, I needed to start this thread as a parallel to my SkyTrak thread. (If anyone is wondering, I am selling the SkyTrak. I'd rather sell here than eBay, so shoot me an offer!)

Why am I making this move? The biggest reason is that the Mevo+ offers the flexibility of use indoor and outdoor (the SkyTrak struggles in direct sunlight, which I experienced firsthand this spring). Our garage is big enough (I'm nearly certain) to allow the Mevo+ to work inside; the space needed for the Mevo+ inside is the biggest knock on it.

But over the next few months, I'll update this thread with my thoughts on the Mevo+, especially compared to the SkyTrak (since they're about the same price point). Currently, UPS is showing a delivery date of next Wednesday, so I'll be burning up my F5 button until the brown truck arrives.

If you have any particular questions about either device, post it! I've had two years with my SkyTrak, so I think I've got a good handle on that LM.

Also, a bit of a BST note here: if anyone has an older (but not too old) iPad or iPhone that's no longer needed, shoot me a DM. It has to be an iPhone 8 or an iPad 5th gen (both of which were released in 2017; or newer, but I'm looking for cheap, not awesome). The Mevo+ includes the option of playing sim golf on iOS, but I'm an Android diehard.

I've kept it kinda quiet, but I pulled the trigger on a Mevo+ earlier this year.  This has also nicely coincided with the least amount of golf I've played in the last 3 years.  From the limited use I've been able to gather, you're going to enjoy it!  Most of the work I've given it has been within 50 yards, which is notoriously it's "weak" point--but it helped me dial in my short game in the shortest amount of time since I've started playing and has kept me in good shape with my limited play this year.   Side note: I've had no trouble using mine with my iPhone 6s.  

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1 hour ago, TBT said:

Thanks, that’s what I was afraid of, kinda leaves out setting it up in the garage unfortunately 

Just need to build a bigger garage. 

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Received my Mevo+ yesterday, but I haven't used it yet. This was no act of discipline on my part: my wife had taken Kirke to Drive, Chip, and Putt, and so I had three of our children to keep alive. It didn't seem like the best time to set up a new launch monitor.

I'm hoping to get it set up this afternoon and do a little garage practice before league this evening. If all goes well, I should be able to do some side-by-side comps with the SkyTrak on Saturday. I'm thinking 5–7 shots from partial wedge, PW, 7, 5, and hybrid. I'll plan to keep every shot that both devices read, no matter how awful (reading bad shots accurately is also important on an LM). I'll also record how many missed shots each device has.

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I can chime in some more after two full range sessions (probably about 100 balls):

  • Mevo+ has recorded probably 97 percent of the shots I've taken. I had a few misses here or there, especially when I started letting the ball get too close to the unit due to my divot pattern.
  • Like @GolfSpy MPR mentioned, the feedback is nearly instantaneous. 
  • The FS Golf App on Androids runs really smoothly. Ball flight tracer seems extremely accurate.
  • As expected with awful range balls and no dots, spin readings are all over the place. (No fault of the Mevo+.)
  • Club head speed measurement seems very accurate, probably more accurate than the regular Mevo, especially with driver. 
  • As can be expected with range balls, the carry distance and ball speeds are a little off. It's more noticeable once you get to the longer clubs, of course. As such, my smash factor is never that high. This, again, is no fault of the Mevo. The end of our range from where the tees are at is about 265 yards. Yesterday I hit the fence on the fly with a driver and Mevo recorded something in the high 250s. So pretty accurate.

And, here is why I'm so excited about having the Mevo+ ... having directional feedback saved in the app is a great "gamification" of my range sessions. I've always been guilty of just mindlessly hitting range balls, or trying to hit balls as hard as possible with no real regard to direction (Sure, you remember your club and ball speed but don't remember it was 40 yards offline!). Having the dispersion tracking has already made a big difference in my focus while on the range.

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On 6/18/2021 at 10:30 AM, GolfSpy MPR said:

The issues it did have were with reading spin rates. I used a metallic dot, but got (maybe?) 50/50 actual reads on the spin versus estimated spins (when the numbers are reported in italics

I’ve been getting about a third estimated when hitting into my net, yes, with a metallic dot. Once almost three quarters. Oddly, at the range it almost always gets the spin.  I’m going to do a session tomorrow comparing a couple balls to each other, so will be very careful to make sure the dot is set correctly.  Curious what I’ll find out. 
 

On 6/18/2021 at 10:30 AM, GolfSpy MPR said:

Early on, I'm liking the range graphics of SkyTrak much more than the Mevo+.

Are you using the E6 Connect range? Or just the FS Golf app?

I haven’t tried it yet, but the Awesome Golf has some interesting driving range and skills games - like hitting balls at objects like boats and buildings your son might like. It’s pricey but there is a free trial to see if you like it. 
 

Ive really liked mine.  I’ve been using the video capture mode to send video with the numbers embedded to a new instructor I’m seeing. Since it’s a virtual/remote lesson it’s helpful for him to actually see the data too.  My only real complaint is on battery life . 

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@edingc when hitting range balls, do you even pay attention to spin rates, or is it a given that they will spin so much higher?  Have you seen anything on average increase in spin between a range ball and a premium ball?

 

using the Mevo+ on the range last night and I like my launch, AoA, club speed - but I’m spinning between 3,500 and 5,000, and I’ve got my weights set for lower spin on my Mav SubZero, so i wonder how much is me, and how much is the range ball…

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3H, 4H Cobra One Length F9 Speedback hybrids (1”short) w Fujikura Atmos R flex shaft
5I-GW Cobra Forged TEC Black One Length (1”short, 2* flat) KBS 90 R flex shafts
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18 hours ago, WaffleHouseTour said:

@edingc when hitting range balls, do you even pay attention to spin rates, or is it a given that they will spin so much higher?  Have you seen anything on average increase in spin between a range ball and a premium ball?

 

using the Mevo+ on the range last night and I like my launch, AoA, club speed - but I’m spinning between 3,500 and 5,000, and I’ve got my weights set for lower spin on my Mav SubZero, so i wonder how much is me, and how much is the range ball…

It's a great question and not one I have a good answer to. I've done some research into this in the past, and I'm copy/pasting something I put into another thread a while back:

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This is something I've actually spent way too much time looking into, and there's not a lot of information out there. Some useful sources:

Practical Golf - HOW DO RANGE BALLS PERFORM VS. PREMIUM GOLF BALLS?
https://practical-golf.com/range-golf-ball-versus-premium-ball/

Comparing a Snell MTB Black to a Pinnacle Practice ball and a Srixon Limited Distance practice ball, ball speed differences of 7-11 miles per hour were observed with the driver, and 4-7 MPH with 7 iron. There were non-negligible differences in launch angle and spin as well.

Today's Golfer Driving range ball vs premium golf ball
https://www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/features/equipment-features/2018/may/tested-range-ball-vs-premium-ball/

Their test of a TP5X versus a range ball revealed some oddities. The range ball actually carried farther with a wedge in their test due to the considerably less spin rate. Moving to driver, the range ball was easily beaten by the TP5X, with a 6 MPH faster ball speed.

Golf Digest - Stripe it!
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/gd-tested-range-balls

Their results comparing ProV1s and various range balls confirms that range balls are erratic in speed/distance from ball-to-ball, with some range balls equaling the carry of their premium counterparts while others fell ridiculously short.

Additionally, there used to be a PDF from Srixon floating around on the Internet that compared their range balls to other brands. I have it saved and have copied/pasted Srixon's chart below:

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Assuming the "optimal" launch conditions for their driver and 5 iron tests, you can see that they would fall short of what would be expected distances.

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Safe to say range balls don't spin the same as regular balls. But I have no idea how to quantify it. I generally look at ball speeds and general flight on the range. But even ball speeds vary wildly from ball-to-ball.

Anecdotally, yes, range balls spin quite a bit more than a premium ball. I know Practical Golf's results don't corroborate that, but I visibly launch range balls higher and with more spin.

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6 hours ago, edingc said:

Safe to say range balls don't spin the same as regular balls. But I have no idea how to quantify it. I generally look at ball speeds and general flight on the range. But even ball speeds vary wildly from ball-to-ball.

Anecdotally, yes, range balls spin quite a bit more than a premium ball. I know Practical Golf's results don't corroborate that, but I visibly launch range balls higher and with more spin.

I knew you’d know something there  Thanks for sharing. 
 

its interesting that the rangers have higher launches.  To me it sure looks like they are going higher and ballooning on me. My Mevo says they are launching higher w more spin.   When I hit my OnCore ball at home into a net Mevo says lower launch and spin - but of course I can’t see it and am completely dependent on that little yellow line….

I may just need to trust the Mevo - but I sure like seeing the ball fly

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3H, 4H Cobra One Length F9 Speedback hybrids (1”short) w Fujikura Atmos R flex shaft
5I-GW Cobra Forged TEC Black One Length (1”short, 2* flat) KBS 90 R flex shafts
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Just received the following in an email from FlightScope:

 

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Having some competition in the space seems to be pushing them along. I'm not 100 percent sure what "Fusion Tracking" entails, but I know it's available on the X3 only right now. Some sort of integration with the built-in camera, though I'm not sure what exactly it provides.

Still, can't complain about getting a new feature. Makes me wonder if they'll eventually offer more club statistics for either free or as an upcharge package. Especially if more affordable monitors continue to hit the market.

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