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1 hour ago, TBT said:

Thanks, that’s what I was afraid of, kinda leaves out setting it up in the garage unfortunately 

Just need to build a bigger garage. 

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Received my Mevo+ yesterday, but I haven't used it yet. This was no act of discipline on my part: my wife had taken Kirke to Drive, Chip, and Putt, and so I had three of our children to keep alive. It didn't seem like the best time to set up a new launch monitor.

I'm hoping to get it set up this afternoon and do a little garage practice before league this evening. If all goes well, I should be able to do some side-by-side comps with the SkyTrak on Saturday. I'm thinking 5–7 shots from partial wedge, PW, 7, 5, and hybrid. I'll plan to keep every shot that both devices read, no matter how awful (reading bad shots accurately is also important on an LM). I'll also record how many missed shots each device has.

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I can chime in some more after two full range sessions (probably about 100 balls):

  • Mevo+ has recorded probably 97 percent of the shots I've taken. I had a few misses here or there, especially when I started letting the ball get too close to the unit due to my divot pattern.
  • Like @GolfSpy MPR mentioned, the feedback is nearly instantaneous. 
  • The FS Golf App on Androids runs really smoothly. Ball flight tracer seems extremely accurate.
  • As expected with awful range balls and no dots, spin readings are all over the place. (No fault of the Mevo+.)
  • Club head speed measurement seems very accurate, probably more accurate than the regular Mevo, especially with driver. 
  • As can be expected with range balls, the carry distance and ball speeds are a little off. It's more noticeable once you get to the longer clubs, of course. As such, my smash factor is never that high. This, again, is no fault of the Mevo. The end of our range from where the tees are at is about 265 yards. Yesterday I hit the fence on the fly with a driver and Mevo recorded something in the high 250s. So pretty accurate.

And, here is why I'm so excited about having the Mevo+ ... having directional feedback saved in the app is a great "gamification" of my range sessions. I've always been guilty of just mindlessly hitting range balls, or trying to hit balls as hard as possible with no real regard to direction (Sure, you remember your club and ball speed but don't remember it was 40 yards offline!). Having the dispersion tracking has already made a big difference in my focus while on the range.

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On 6/18/2021 at 10:30 AM, GolfSpy MPR said:

The issues it did have were with reading spin rates. I used a metallic dot, but got (maybe?) 50/50 actual reads on the spin versus estimated spins (when the numbers are reported in italics

I’ve been getting about a third estimated when hitting into my net, yes, with a metallic dot. Once almost three quarters. Oddly, at the range it almost always gets the spin.  I’m going to do a session tomorrow comparing a couple balls to each other, so will be very careful to make sure the dot is set correctly.  Curious what I’ll find out. 
 

On 6/18/2021 at 10:30 AM, GolfSpy MPR said:

Early on, I'm liking the range graphics of SkyTrak much more than the Mevo+.

Are you using the E6 Connect range? Or just the FS Golf app?

I haven’t tried it yet, but the Awesome Golf has some interesting driving range and skills games - like hitting balls at objects like boats and buildings your son might like. It’s pricey but there is a free trial to see if you like it. 
 

Ive really liked mine.  I’ve been using the video capture mode to send video with the numbers embedded to a new instructor I’m seeing. Since it’s a virtual/remote lesson it’s helpful for him to actually see the data too.  My only real complaint is on battery life . 

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@edingc when hitting range balls, do you even pay attention to spin rates, or is it a given that they will spin so much higher?  Have you seen anything on average increase in spin between a range ball and a premium ball?

 

using the Mevo+ on the range last night and I like my launch, AoA, club speed - but I’m spinning between 3,500 and 5,000, and I’ve got my weights set for lower spin on my Mav SubZero, so i wonder how much is me, and how much is the range ball…

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18 hours ago, WaffleHouseTour said:

@edingc when hitting range balls, do you even pay attention to spin rates, or is it a given that they will spin so much higher?  Have you seen anything on average increase in spin between a range ball and a premium ball?

 

using the Mevo+ on the range last night and I like my launch, AoA, club speed - but I’m spinning between 3,500 and 5,000, and I’ve got my weights set for lower spin on my Mav SubZero, so i wonder how much is me, and how much is the range ball…

It's a great question and not one I have a good answer to. I've done some research into this in the past, and I'm copy/pasting something I put into another thread a while back:

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This is something I've actually spent way too much time looking into, and there's not a lot of information out there. Some useful sources:

Practical Golf - HOW DO RANGE BALLS PERFORM VS. PREMIUM GOLF BALLS?
https://practical-golf.com/range-golf-ball-versus-premium-ball/

Comparing a Snell MTB Black to a Pinnacle Practice ball and a Srixon Limited Distance practice ball, ball speed differences of 7-11 miles per hour were observed with the driver, and 4-7 MPH with 7 iron. There were non-negligible differences in launch angle and spin as well.

Today's Golfer Driving range ball vs premium golf ball
https://www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/features/equipment-features/2018/may/tested-range-ball-vs-premium-ball/

Their test of a TP5X versus a range ball revealed some oddities. The range ball actually carried farther with a wedge in their test due to the considerably less spin rate. Moving to driver, the range ball was easily beaten by the TP5X, with a 6 MPH faster ball speed.

Golf Digest - Stripe it!
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/gd-tested-range-balls

Their results comparing ProV1s and various range balls confirms that range balls are erratic in speed/distance from ball-to-ball, with some range balls equaling the carry of their premium counterparts while others fell ridiculously short.

Additionally, there used to be a PDF from Srixon floating around on the Internet that compared their range balls to other brands. I have it saved and have copied/pasted Srixon's chart below:

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Assuming the "optimal" launch conditions for their driver and 5 iron tests, you can see that they would fall short of what would be expected distances.

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Safe to say range balls don't spin the same as regular balls. But I have no idea how to quantify it. I generally look at ball speeds and general flight on the range. But even ball speeds vary wildly from ball-to-ball.

Anecdotally, yes, range balls spin quite a bit more than a premium ball. I know Practical Golf's results don't corroborate that, but I visibly launch range balls higher and with more spin.

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6 hours ago, edingc said:

Safe to say range balls don't spin the same as regular balls. But I have no idea how to quantify it. I generally look at ball speeds and general flight on the range. But even ball speeds vary wildly from ball-to-ball.

Anecdotally, yes, range balls spin quite a bit more than a premium ball. I know Practical Golf's results don't corroborate that, but I visibly launch range balls higher and with more spin.

I knew you’d know something there  Thanks for sharing. 
 

its interesting that the rangers have higher launches.  To me it sure looks like they are going higher and ballooning on me. My Mevo says they are launching higher w more spin.   When I hit my OnCore ball at home into a net Mevo says lower launch and spin - but of course I can’t see it and am completely dependent on that little yellow line….

I may just need to trust the Mevo - but I sure like seeing the ball fly

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Just received the following in an email from FlightScope:

 

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Having some competition in the space seems to be pushing them along. I'm not 100 percent sure what "Fusion Tracking" entails, but I know it's available on the X3 only right now. Some sort of integration with the built-in camera, though I'm not sure what exactly it provides.

Still, can't complain about getting a new feature. Makes me wonder if they'll eventually offer more club statistics for either free or as an upcharge package. Especially if more affordable monitors continue to hit the market.

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I'm monitoring these emails as well. I have all but settled on the MEVO+ now that the Bushnell/Gc3 pricing is out. I can push the net back in my garage and have space for full indoor mode. With space being the main downside to these and not being an issue, it seems to be the only system with full functionality and limited sim use without a subscription model. Unless you are in the $8000-$10000 price range and buying a lump sum license like TGC 2019 which is then driving more cost to buy a gaming PC and projector instead of running MEVO+ on your phone or Ipad. 

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Some years ago to improve and avoid dealing with a two way, I decided to go with a draw as primary shot pattern. 

With Mevo+ I watch three parameters as guide or rough estimate when I practice a draw: Launch H (Face=R), Spin Axis (Path=L) and Lateral (Curve)…

Screenshot is a 50* degree gap wedge, on course I’ve seen it draw about 1 foot draw on a 100 yard shot…. I watch those three parameters on all clubs…

 

 

 

 

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ahhh, but what is "fusion tracking" ?  I got the same email, and saw the same tweets - but i don't know what that really means...

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46 minutes ago, WaffleHouseTour said:

ahhh, but what is "fusion tracking" ?  I got the same email, and saw the same tweets - but i don't know what that really means...

My highly uneducated guess it that it has something to do with the orientation of the wave length's the radar is using. From my back ground in meteorology they send out waves in the horizontal and vertical orientation. I bet there is some advantage to a different orientation or using multiple that they are adding. Just a guess though.

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51 minutes ago, WaffleHouseTour said:

ahhh, but what is "fusion tracking" ?  I got the same email, and saw the same tweets - but i don't know what that really means...

From a Mevo Facebook group I'm in, it's supposed to incorporate the camera (presumably, the one on the device) to help it read some of the low speed shots (short chips and putts).

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Fusion Tracking is Flightscope’s most advanced tracking available currently in the X3 and xI Tour but not Mevo+…

What’s does that really mean more accuracy to current Mevo+ parameters?

Or does it mean Mevo+ will have face, path & face to path data parameters? Verse the manual approach showed above….

x3, xI and Mevo+ compared:

https://flightscope.com/products/product-comparison/

 

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Saw the announcement - and I have no reason to doubt them…. But how can a camera 10 or so feet behind the ball at impact measure face to path and face to target?  I hope it can/want it to.  I’m sure someone (MGS moderators…) will find a way to do some comparisons.  

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