Popular Post Watchnut33 82 Posted June 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2021 For a long time I considered putting to be the strength of my game. I regularly had less than 30 putts in a round and averaged about 31.5 putts per round last year. As I improved my game and started hitting more greens, my first putts became longer and I started 3 putting more often, which causes me to reassess my putting stroke, grip, and eventually my entire putter. I started using a forward press, which helped. Then I tried a new, larger grip which was mostly a disaster. Putting went from a strength to a source of anxiety for me and my putts per round jumped nearly 4 strokes. My game was improving despite my putting and I knew if I could get my putting together I could make a push at my goal of a 10 handicap (I was playing a 23 at the beginning of 2020, got as low as 14.8 at the end of last summer and am currently at 16). I started looking into putter fitting, and unbeknownst to me, my wife scheduled a putter fitting for me for Father’s Day. My fitter uses trackman, he has fit all of my other clubs so I was pretty excited about it when she told me what she planned for me this morning. After all, getting properly fit last year for irons, wedges and woods helped me drastically improve my game. He started the fitting by having me roll a few putts to get a baseline, and after 4 or 5 he asked if my miss was a pull left, which it is. He showed me some trackman numbers and suggested that my putter was the wrong lie and angle, and probably not the right weight or toe hang for my stroke. Then he started handing me putters. I’d roll a few, he’d hand me another putter and on we went. After a few different putters he asked if I’d consider something a little different, an arm lock putter. “Why not?” I said, seemed like it was worth a shot. Once I got adjusted to the arm lock setup and took a few practice strokes, I rolled a putt. It was pure. I rolled another, pure. And another, and another. All pure. He chuckled a little bit and told me it might take some getting used to and a few minor lie and loft adjustments, but he thought it was a winner. We put it aside and tried a few others, but I kept coming back to the arm lock option. Every time I rolled a putt with it I felt like it was going to go in. The Trackman data and video backed it up too, consistent ball speed, roll %, and starting path. I’d seen enough, and after he made the adjustments, I took my new Cobra Grandsport AL to my favorite practice green to get some putts in. The ball comes off the face so pure, so clean, and it wasn’t hard to get my long distance putting pace down really quickly. All of the sudden I don’t feel anxious about putting, and I’m looking forward to seeing how my game is impacted on the course as soon as this tropical storm passes through this weekend. Here are a few pictures of my new putter: 18 Quote Ping G410+, 9* with draw bias weight setting, 55g Alta CB stiff shaft Taylormade Burner 3w, stiff shaft Mizuno JPX919 Hot Metal 4-GW, regular flex Cleveland CBX2 54* wedge Cleveland Smart Sole 58* wedge Ping Scottsdale Piper C putter Titleist Tour Speed balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberry_Squishie 283 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Sounds like a great result for you. Goes to show the effect that fitting can have on your game. Here's to more hole rattles! 1 1 Quote Cobra F9 9.5° (Hzrdus Yellow X) H85 16° and 19° (Hzrdus Black 85 6.0) MP20 MMC 4-PW (KBS $ Taper 120S) T20 51°, 8° (KBS $ Taper 120S) T20 55°, 9° (KBS $ Taper 120S) T20 59°, 9° (KBS $ Taper 120S) Phantom X 5.5 34" ZStar XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapotomous 5,022 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Awesome gift by your wife!! She probably got tired of hearing about your putting woes!! 2 1 5 Quote Modern Bag: 849 Pro 9*, Hazrdous Smoke S Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Snake Eyes 15*, & 23* Hybrids; JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Tour Action 49*, 53*, 57*; PX LZ 6.5 ; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-Black; Bag - H2NO Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchnut33 82 Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 48 minutes ago, Shapotomous said: Awesome gift by your wife!! She probably got tired of hearing about your putting woes!! I’m sure of it. I have 2 putting mats that I practice on at home and there have been a lot more choice words muttered around them the last few months! 1 1 Quote Ping G410+, 9* with draw bias weight setting, 55g Alta CB stiff shaft Taylormade Burner 3w, stiff shaft Mizuno JPX919 Hot Metal 4-GW, regular flex Cleveland CBX2 54* wedge Cleveland Smart Sole 58* wedge Ping Scottsdale Piper C putter Titleist Tour Speed balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchnut33 82 Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Blueberry_Squishie said: Sounds like a great result for you. Goes to show the effect that fitting can have on your game. Here's to more hole rattles! Definitely would recommend the putter fitting to anyone considering it. My last putter was “fit” for me at a big box store and I’m fairly certain there wasn’t a single adjustment made to it, just a cursory glance at me rolling a few putts and a “yep looks like it’s the right fit”. It worked ok for 8ish years, but as I improved it became obvious I needed to be properly fit. 2 Quote Ping G410+, 9* with draw bias weight setting, 55g Alta CB stiff shaft Taylormade Burner 3w, stiff shaft Mizuno JPX919 Hot Metal 4-GW, regular flex Cleveland CBX2 54* wedge Cleveland Smart Sole 58* wedge Ping Scottsdale Piper C putter Titleist Tour Speed balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juspoole 3,326 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Great to hear how well the fitting turned out. Putting is so much about confidence so hope that it continues on the course for you. I tried the Cobra putters recently and agree the ball comes off the face very well. There is something to that SIK face technology. They only had the larger mallet in left hand and the aesthetics weren't for me. Hoping to try the blade soon. 1 1 Quote Driver: Mavrik Sub Zero 9* (Set to 10) Ventus Blue 6X 2 Hybrid: TSI3 Hybrid Tensei Blue 80 X (17.25*) 3 Hybrid 818 H2 Hybrid Hzrdus RDX Black 6.5 (20.5*) 4 Iron - T200 4 Iron Graphite Design Tour AD IZ X Hybrid Shaft Irons 5-PW: T100-S 5 - GW KBS Tour 130 X Gap/Sand Wedge: Vokey SM6 49* SM8 54* Lob Wedge: Jaws 5 Wedge 58* DG Tour Issue Stiff Putter: Phantom 5.5 34" Pro Platinum Newport 2 35" Taylormade Tour Black Spider 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchnut33 82 Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 47 minutes ago, juspoole said: Great to hear how well the fitting turned out. Putting is so much about confidence so hope that it continues on the course for you. I tried the Cobra putters recently and agree the ball comes off the face very well. There is something to that SIK face technology. They only had the larger mallet in left hand and the aesthetics weren't for me. Hoping to try the blade soon. Yeah the descending loft technology gives it such a consistent feel off the club face that I just couldn’t ignore it. Trackman data backed it up with how little deviation I had on ball speed at impact and with my roll percentage. The confidence that gives me will be a huge boost. 1 Quote Ping G410+, 9* with draw bias weight setting, 55g Alta CB stiff shaft Taylormade Burner 3w, stiff shaft Mizuno JPX919 Hot Metal 4-GW, regular flex Cleveland CBX2 54* wedge Cleveland Smart Sole 58* wedge Ping Scottsdale Piper C putter Titleist Tour Speed balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 7,767 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Im looking forward to getting fit in the Edel EAS soon, and oddly one of my golf buddies was recently going on about his new armlock putter. your new putter slightly reminds me of my old Nike converge batmobile putter- great putter, butt, you will find the stuff gets into that rear compartment youve got there… 2 Quote MavriK Sub Zero 9* on EvenFlow RipTide 6.0 50g Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S F8 5/6 wood on Aldila NxT GEN MLT R P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 5-AW Combo iron set -8,9,per Icon 5,6,7 PtxPro 4-UiHi on Recoil 780 ES f4 Stiff shafts (second best clubs ever) Equalizer 50°, 54°, 60° wedges on Recoil 780 f4 E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Tutelman 29 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Two things made the arm-lock putter popular recently, but the concept has been around for quite a while. The USGA/R&A banned anchoring, but bracing against a forearm was still legal. Matt Kuchar adopted it. As early as 2002, I built myself an arm-lock putter. It didn't go nearly as high on the arm as a modern ones, but it shared a lot of characteristics with them. At the time, it didn't stay in my bag. But I made the switch for good about 7 years ago. I built myself a few variants of the modern arm-lock, and still use the one I found best at the time Here is what I would expect you to find, at least based on my experience. Good news: your line is likely to be better than before. More good news: if you have any tendency to the yips, this is likely to ward them off. I developed the yips in my early 70s. Tried a lot of things, with varying degrees of success. The arm-lock was the most successful. Not-so-good news: You will have to recalibrate your distance, especially if you were a "feel" putter. You may find it hard to dial in your distance feel. Stick with it; you will probably get there. It just may take some time. Hope this helps. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf 290 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 That putter looks awesome. Have never tried an arm lock but it’s definitely interesting to see it grow in popularity. I got fitted for my Scotty last year. Tried 5 brands and both mallet and blades. Really thought I would putt better with a mallet, but the fitter showed me the data and got me onto another Scotty. I found from my fitting that my putts now start rolling quicker off the face based on the fitting data and my putts are heading exactly where my line is now vs my previous inconsistency on most putts. Major difference is slight adjustment to loft and longer putter length. Have always been a decent putter, but now it’s even better. My distance control is definitely user errors and not my putter. 2 Quote TSi 3 9.0 AV Raw White 65 Stiff TSi3 15.0 AV Raw White 75 Stiff TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff Haywood 4-PW iron Signature - DG S300 Stiff 52 - 09 Tour Preferred EF - KBS Tour Wedge Haywood 56 - 12 KBS Tour Wedge 60 - 10 Tour Preferred - KBS Tour Wedge Scotty Special Select - Squareback 2 Z-Star XV Official MGS Tester 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Coker 2 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Recommendations for getting putter fitting?? I'm currently in western Wyoming for the summer, then down to Mesquite NV over the winter. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchnut33 82 Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 hour ago, KC Golf said: That putter looks awesome. Have never tried an arm lock but it’s definitely interesting to see it grow in popularity. I got fitted for my Scotty last year. Tried 5 brands and both mallet and blades. Really thought I would putt better with a mallet, but the fitter showed me the data and got me onto another Scotty. I found from my fitting that my putts now start rolling quicker off the face based on the fitting data and my putts are heading exactly where my line is now vs my previous inconsistency on most putts. Major difference is slight adjustment to loft and longer putter length. Have always been a decent putter, but now it’s even better. My distance control is definitely user errors and not my putter. It’s funny, I never would have considered this putter without the fitting. I was set on trying to get into a Scotty or Bettinardi or Oddysey but the data just didn’t support any of those over this one. 1 Quote Ping G410+, 9* with draw bias weight setting, 55g Alta CB stiff shaft Taylormade Burner 3w, stiff shaft Mizuno JPX919 Hot Metal 4-GW, regular flex Cleveland CBX2 54* wedge Cleveland Smart Sole 58* wedge Ping Scottsdale Piper C putter Titleist Tour Speed balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchnut33 82 Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, Mike Coker said: Recommendations for getting putter fitting?? I'm currently in western Wyoming for the summer, then down to Mesquite NV over the winter. Thanks My fitter is a locaL golf shop that uses trackman. There are other putter fitting systems out there, but I don’t have experience with those. I can definitely recommend trying to find a course or shop that uses trackman for fitting. You’re going to have to pass through Las Vegas to get to Mesquite, you could probably find some options there. 1 Quote Ping G410+, 9* with draw bias weight setting, 55g Alta CB stiff shaft Taylormade Burner 3w, stiff shaft Mizuno JPX919 Hot Metal 4-GW, regular flex Cleveland CBX2 54* wedge Cleveland Smart Sole 58* wedge Ping Scottsdale Piper C putter Titleist Tour Speed balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Coker 2 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Roger that, and thanks for the reply. Thinking LV could be a place to start my search...... Was hoping to find a good recommendation for a known good fitter closer to my summer spot. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchnut33 82 Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, Mike Coker said: Roger that, and thanks for the reply. Thinking LV could be a place to start my search...... Was hoping to find a good recommendation for a known good fitter closer to my summer spot. Thanks again. Depending on where in western Wyoming you could probably find decent options in SLC. I have a lot of family in eastern Idaho, beautiful part of the country. Quote Ping G410+, 9* with draw bias weight setting, 55g Alta CB stiff shaft Taylormade Burner 3w, stiff shaft Mizuno JPX919 Hot Metal 4-GW, regular flex Cleveland CBX2 54* wedge Cleveland Smart Sole 58* wedge Ping Scottsdale Piper C putter Titleist Tour Speed balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshDay 26 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Sounds like a great experience. It'll be interesting to see how it translates on the course. Good luck and less us know! 1 Quote 10.5 Epic Flash TM 3 Wood Titleist 20* 5 Wood Apex Pro Irons 58 TM and 60 Callaway degree wedges Odyssey Sabertooth Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMUSC08 962 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 i've been looking to schedule a putter fitting as well! Good to know they are helpful as they should be. Hoping to learn more about my putting issues too as im abt 35 putts/rd. 2 Quote Charleston, SC HDCP 12.0 Driver: M6 9* with 65g Stiff Mitsubishi Tensei Red shaft 3 wood: M4 with 60g Atmos red stiff shaft 4-gw irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal w/ X-stiff KBS 130gr shafts (soft stepped) Wedges: 52, 56, 60 SM5 & SM6 Putter: 34" 2-ball original with superstroke grip Tracked By: MGS Tester '20 - G710 Iron Review MGS Tester '19 - Precision Pro NX9 HD Pro laser rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artful_golfer 1,563 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 I recently inherited the Bettinardi armlock that @downlowkey reviewed for MyGolfSpy. I was surprised at how much easier it is putt and I'm now a super fan of armlock. Enjoy! 5 Quote PXG 0811 XF driver Serene: 3 wood, 4 & 5 hybrid iron r7 Draw, Flex L: 4, 6 - 9 irons Wedges: RTX Zipcore 46 mid bounce; RTX-3: 52/10 wedge; 56/11 wedge; and Tour Action 900 60* low bounce Armlock putter or E-2 Torque custom fit putter Tour B XS golf ball V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godawgs 6 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 glad to see you found a great fit for your putter. Congrats and have fun when the storm ends. 1 Quote Back in golf after a 25 year delay. Go Dawgs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchnut33 82 Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 Updates: Got back out to the practice green again yesterday after spending the last several days rolling putts in the house. Distance control is spot on for me and now that I’m getting comfortable with the arm lock and setup. Got out to play 18 this afternoon and all I can say is wow. I felt like I was going to make everything, rolled in a few 20 footers, lipped out a 40 footer and ended the round with 30 putts and a career low 83. This putter is going to be a game changer for me. 3 Quote Ping G410+, 9* with draw bias weight setting, 55g Alta CB stiff shaft Taylormade Burner 3w, stiff shaft Mizuno JPX919 Hot Metal 4-GW, regular flex Cleveland CBX2 54* wedge Cleveland Smart Sole 58* wedge Ping Scottsdale Piper C putter Titleist Tour Speed balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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