tortoise1956 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 I'm looking to buy some new irons, and the TS-1 caught my eye. I ordered a 3-iron head with a TT XL Lite taper shaft in stiff to see how it performed for me. If it fits my eye (and swing), I'll be buying more, as well as (maybe) a Steelfiber shaft to see how it works for me. Basic description: I am 65, was shooting in the very low 80's with an occasional foray into the 70's until the pandemic put me on a general hiatus. I had been playing TaylorMade M4 irons, but I had no feel with them, leading me to just start whaling away at the ball. I recently went back to an old set of KZG ZO irons (4-PW) with TX-90 stiff shafts, to remind me when I was not hitting the sweet spot. These irons have been bent to be 2 degrees stronger than original. I normally hit the ZO 7-iron between 145-165 yards, depending upon shot shape. I recently added KZG TRS wedges - 50, 54 and 58 - with Dynamic Gold stiff shafts to the bag, but haven't been overjoyed with the distance and dispersion and may go back to my ZO GW and SW instead, or seek out new wedges entirely. Here are my questions: Do the TS-1 PW and GW heads follow a good progression as far as distance, compared to the rest of the set? Are they capable of producing good backspin with premium balls? I use Srixon Z-star/Z-star XV as a general rule, but I have been known to hit Vice Pro Plus balls as well... Also, any knowledge about Steelfiber shafts paired to TS-1 heads would be appreciated. Finally, any suggestions or recommendations of Maltby wedges, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellairemi Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 I play with TE Forged but built a set of the TS-1s for my son's graduation present. We have the same specs so I have played quite a bit with his irons. Neither he nor I have seen any gapping issues between the pitching and gap wedges and they generate plenty of spin ( we both play the OnCore Elixir balls). I paired his irons with the new TSW DRM wedges which are very nice. The sole grind works well for our varied conditions (we go from hardpan to very soft quickly) and the feel is very nice. I will be replacing my Tricepts with the DRM wedges this week. ncwoz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtgavigan Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I have been playing TS-1 irons almost a year. Best irons I have played. No gapping issues. I bent mine to have a 4° progression from 6i to pw. I play the TSW wedges in 50, 54, and 58. I hit the 9i about 150 yards, pw about 135, 50 deg 120, 54 about 110, and the 58 95 to 100 yards. I am playing dynamic gold X100 sensicore, but I am 50 and still swinging it 110ish with the driver. Quote Titleist TSI3 8°, Xcaliber Avalon 6 tour stiff, tipped 1", C3 surefit and H2 for backweight, D1 SW, 45 3/8", 40g counterbalance weight; PING G425 LST 3 wood, set at 13.5° Xcaliber T6* tour stiff, tipped 1 1/4" 43 1/2", D1, 20g counterbalance weight; Snake Eyes 19° Quick Strike Tour, Xcaliber T6+ Tour Stiff, 20g counterbalance weight; Maltby TS-1 irons, Modus 120x soft stepped once, D5, 2° flat; Cleveland RTX Zipcore wedges, black satin, 50°, 54°, 58°, all 2° flat; Ping TR series Anser 5, 33", 2° flat, 1.5° strong, 75g optivibe at 2" down the shaft and a 12g tourlock pro+ counterweight Srixon Z Star XV, TP5X, or Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCDuffer Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) TS-1 5-GW, TSW 54, M-Series 58. Standard lofts have been good for me but I don’t have your swing speed as my iron shafts are KBS90 regs. Edited June 28, 2021 by NCDuffer Correct spell check! Quote TSi2 Driver, Titleist TSi2 4 Wood, Ping G410 3 Hybrid, Ping G400 4 Hybrid, Maltby TS1 5-GW, Maltby Max Milled 54, Maltby Max Milled 58, Piretti Forza. Some folks say golf messes up a nice walk. That’s not true, golf makes a nice walk bearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortoise1956 Posted July 4, 2021 Author Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) Thanks to everyone for their comments and recommendations. I will take all of this to heart when I refit my implements of desperation soon... Edited July 4, 2021 by tortoise1956 ncwoz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angular Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) I've got the TS-1 in 3-PW as well as the 52/56 TSW wedges in late September. I built them up with KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff (soft-stepped 1x). Distance wise they are right in-line with what I was coming from (Ping i210) and I have no issues spinning the ball. Really impressed with the looks and feel and playability of these irons! I see these staying in the bag for a while. Edited December 21, 2021 by Angular NCDuffer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic-js Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Maltby released a sneak peek of their TS3 and TS4 ... azstu324, NCDuffer and edingc 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic-js Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I have the TS1 3-GW and the TSW wedges. Very nice irons. The sneak peek image is from the Maltby Golf Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/21/2021 at 3:03 PM, vic-js said: Maltby released a sneak peek of their TS3 and TS4 ... OMG!!!!! fixyurdivot 1 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas King Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Someone over at Golfworks has some style. Something that has seemingly been omitted from most of their designs since ever. edingc, ncwoz, fixyurdivot and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Is that a milled bottom I see on the TS-4? Wow. Only complaint looks-wise is that the sole numbers are out of place. Why they'd go with a serif font on the soles but sans-serif on the club badging annoys me more than it should. GolfSpy BOS, Kansas King, ncwoz and 1 other 4 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingGreens Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 The ts4 has a sharper look to it. I am contemplating building a set of ts1s in the future. I had my cart all loaded up with shafts grips, club heads, and ferrules but couldn’t pull the trigger Quote Stealth 2 Plus 9deg Kai' li Red Stealth 2 13deg Aldilla Rogue Silver Stealth 2 15deg Aldilla Rogue Silver JPX 921 Hot Metal 4-PW Nippon Modus 120s SM8 54 and 58deg Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Titleist ProV1 Hoofer Stand Bag Stewart Q Follow Electric Caddie 300 PRO Rangefinder Official Nippon Regio B+ Driver Shaft Review Official Stewart Q Follow Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic-js Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, RollingGreens said: The ts4 has a sharper look to it. I am contemplating building a set of ts1s in the future. I had my cart all loaded up with shafts grips, club heads, and ferrules but couldn’t pull the trigger Britt mentioned on the Maltby forum that the TS4s won't be out until at least summer, maybe fall, so it will be a while. I think you'll be more than happy building a set of TS1s ... I have 3-PW and they're great. Kansas King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas King Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, RollingGreens said: The ts4 has a sharper look to it. I am contemplating building a set of ts1s in the future. I had my cart all loaded up with shafts grips, club heads, and ferrules but couldn’t pull the trigger The TS4 does look sharp but I'll be curious to see how it stacks up to the TS1. I was looking at building a new set in the next 12 months and the TS1 or maybe the new TS3 kind of has my eyes. I currently play the MMB 17s and I enjoy them but I wouldn't be against a little more forgiveness from the sole. I don't think I will be playing quite as much as I used to in the future. I'm sure when available, I'll just build one of each TS1 - TS4 and see what I like best. For all I know, I may really love the extra forgiveness of the TS2. RollingGreens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingGreens Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Either one works for me. I think the project alone has made me more interested in maltby products. I’ve never heard a bad review. I would really like to use graphite shafts but not sure if I want to use graphite for my first project. Kansas King 1 Quote Stealth 2 Plus 9deg Kai' li Red Stealth 2 13deg Aldilla Rogue Silver Stealth 2 15deg Aldilla Rogue Silver JPX 921 Hot Metal 4-PW Nippon Modus 120s SM8 54 and 58deg Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Titleist ProV1 Hoofer Stand Bag Stewart Q Follow Electric Caddie 300 PRO Rangefinder Official Nippon Regio B+ Driver Shaft Review Official Stewart Q Follow Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas King Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, RollingGreens said: Either one works for me. I think the project alone has made me more interested in maltby products. I’ve never heard a bad review. I would really like to use graphite shafts but not sure if I want to use graphite for my first project. I like Maltby products and find they are a good value. I think their products are largely as good as anyone else's in the in the industry. The hardest part about Maltby products is getting fit. There are some club builders out there that fit for Maltby clubs but there aren't a lot of them and many times, they don't advertise well so it's hard to find the ones that do exist. Plus, many of the fitters actually just fit you on a driving range and build at their homes. IF ANY MALTBY FITTERS ARE READING THIS, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A FACEBOOK ACCOUNT OR SIMPLE WEBSITE EXPLAINING WHAT YOU DO AND HOW TO CONTACT YOU! THANK YOU! I always kind of laugh when it comes to Maltby fitters. You can always tell when you're on a course where a Maltby builder is active. You'll see lots of people with some Maltby clubs in their bag and you ask someone about and they're like "oh yeah, Bill's been building us Maltby clubs for years!". You ask how to contact them and their like "just catch him playing in league on Wednesday night or he's always out here on Saturday morning". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingGreens Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, Kansas King said: I like Maltby products and find they are a good value. I think their products are largely as good as anyone else's in the in the industry. The hardest part about Maltby products is getting fit. There are some club builders out there that fit for Maltby clubs but there aren't a lot of them and many times, they don't advertise well so it's hard to find the ones that do exist. Plus, many of the fitters actually just fit you on a driving range and build at their homes. IF ANY MALTBY FITTERS ARE READING THIS, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A FACEBOOK ACCOUNT OR SIMPLE WEBSITE EXPLAINING WHAT YOU DO AND HOW TO CONTACT YOU! THANK YOU! I always kind of laugh when it comes to Maltby fitters. You can always tell when you're on a course where a Maltby builder is active. You'll see lots of people with some Maltby clubs in their bag and you ask someone about and they're like "oh yeah, Bill's been building us Maltby clubs for years!". You ask how to contact them and their like "just catch him playing in league on Wednesday night or he's always out here on Saturday morning". That would be where I am at. I am just going out in a whim trying to match the specs to my current set. Or to what I think I might like Is their anything that makes maltby easier or harder to build than other OEMs? edingc 1 Quote Stealth 2 Plus 9deg Kai' li Red Stealth 2 13deg Aldilla Rogue Silver Stealth 2 15deg Aldilla Rogue Silver JPX 921 Hot Metal 4-PW Nippon Modus 120s SM8 54 and 58deg Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Titleist ProV1 Hoofer Stand Bag Stewart Q Follow Electric Caddie 300 PRO Rangefinder Official Nippon Regio B+ Driver Shaft Review Official Stewart Q Follow Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, RollingGreens said: Is their anything that makes maltby easier or harder to build than other OEMs? Well, as far as components go there aren't many other companies that you can buy from anymore. Hireko has some stuff available, New Level does heads only and I believe Haywood Golf does as well. Alpha Golf and Wishon also come to mind. If you look around at Value Golf, Diamond Tour or Monark Golf there are a ton of cheap clone components, but as far as original designs go, Golfworks/Maltby are one of very few options anymore. Build-wise, they typically use a universal hosel bore that accepts both parallel and taper tip shafts so they are pretty simple to build. I built a set of Maltby PTMs (since discontinued) and used them for about half a season (Cobra Connect 4 pushed them out of my bag). I liked them. I ended up selling them for about a third of what I had invested in them ($425 invested / $150 sale price), however. I don't know that I'd pay full retail for a set of heads unless I was set on playing them for a long time. bens197 and RollingGreens 2 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 1/12/2022 at 6:21 AM, RollingGreens said: the ts4 has a sharper look to it. I am contemplating building a set of ts1s in the future. I had my cart all loaded up with shafts grips, club heads, and ferrules but couldn’t pull the trigger On 1/12/2022 at 7:35 AM, vic-js said: Britt mentioned on the Maltby forum that the TS4s won't be out until at least summer, maybe fall, so it will be a while. I think you'll be more than happy building a set of TS1s ... I have 3-PW and they're great. I've been saying for the past 2 years since I've had my TS1's, that if I were to get another set of irons that it would just be a new set of TS-1's.. They're that good! But now that I've seen the TS4's I'm changing my tune a little. You're in a tough spot. the TS-1's are pretty much a 100% satisfaction guarantee so you will not be disappointed if you make the move on them.. but the TS4's visually are really something to behold, and from what's being leaked by the brass at GW, it sounds like they'll rival the tech of the TS1's but just with a different concept. I don't envy the position that you're in my friend. Me on the other hand, my mind's made up that I'm getting the TS4's as soon as they launch. I've played 2 different sets of Maltbys over the past 4 years (3 if you include the STI2's I built for my pops that he wouldn't trade for anything) and know enough about what Maltby brings to the table and that EVERYTHING they offer is serious business! so.. do you pull the trigger now and be nothing but thrilled with the TS1's? or do you wait it out with a 99.9% probability that the TS4's will be worth the wait? Or do you buy the TS1's and then wait to get the reviews on the TS4's, and know that even after having spent around $1000 for 2 sets of Maltbys, you're getting 2 sets of playable, highly enjoyable, high quality golf clubs? bens197 1 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozzit Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 2:41 PM, azstu324 said: I've been saying for the past 2 years since I've had my TS1's, that if I were to get another set of irons that it would just be a new set of TS-1's.. They're that good! But now that I've seen the TS4's I'm changing my tune a little. You're in a tough spot. the TS-1's are pretty much a 100% satisfaction guarantee so you will not be disappointed if you make the move on them.. but the TS4's visually are really something to behold, and from what's being leaked by the brass at GW, it sounds like they'll rival the tech of the TS1's but just with a different concept. I don't envy the position that you're in my friend. Me on the other hand, my mind's made up that I'm getting the TS4's as soon as they launch. I've played 2 different sets of Maltbys over the past 4 years (3 if you include the STI2's I built for my pops that he wouldn't trade for anything) and know enough about what Maltby brings to the table and that EVERYTHING they offer is serious business! so.. do you pull the trigger now and be nothing but thrilled with the TS1's? or do you wait it out with a 99.9% probability that the TS4's will be worth the wait? Or do you buy the TS1's and then wait to get the reviews on the TS4's, and know that even after having spent around $1000 for 2 sets of Maltbys, you're getting 2 sets of playable, highly enjoyable, high quality golf clubs? I'm really excited for the TS4s they look fantastic. I will likely buy a few to combo with my TS1s and go from there if i replace with full set. I have loved everything Maltby since I found them. If there is a slimmer topline and feel as good or better then TS1 im sure they will be a no brainer. Quote Driver: Ben Hogan GS53 4W: Maltby KE4 2i: Maltby KE4 FDI 4-PW: Maltby TS-1 - C-Taper 120g 50,54,58: Maltby TSW Putter: L.A.B. DF2.1 Accra Shaft 2023 Forum Testers - L.A.B. Putters Ball: Mixed prefer ProV1 or Snell Handicap: 9.2 - Best Score: 72 (E) Springdale CC, Canton NC -2022 2020 Forum Tester - Ben Hogan GS53 Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 12/21/2021 at 3:03 PM, vic-js said: Maltby released a sneak peek of their TS3 and TS4 ... Wow, those do look great! Perfect timing with my first DIY project. I was thinking more like a second bag made from used (2-3 old product cycle) heads but... hold the presses. The TS3 sound like they would best fit me but those TS4's . Maybe a combo set? Anyone know the construction of both? Is the TS4 a hollow/magic goo filled cavity or a true MB? I can't quite make it out from these views, but it appears "Forged" adorns both hosels. PS... subsequently found this tidbit... very intriguing. TS4 Manufacture and cost estimate | (ralphmaltby.com) PSS... and this Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 So I'm back looking for a set of TS-1's again. Referencing one of my favorite 80's hair bands.. "you don't know what you've got til it's gone".. I really miss these clubs! .. and letting you into the brain of a slightly off-kilter serial buyer and hobby tinkerer/builder, my journey back to these clubs went something like this.. I started with the TS-1's and loved everything about them. Played them for a couple of seasons and then started to get the itch to venture into the no-nonsense blade category. I picked up a second set of cheap Mizuno T-Zoid pro's just to see if I could hang. I ended up playing them quite well so then my curiosity grew. In that process I also found an out of production shaft that I absolutely fell in love with that we're in the mizunos. (Royal Precision FCM Rifle flighted 6.5).. IMO a holy grail and unicorn love child of a shaft and recommend anyone playing iron shafts to give them a serious look) the only downside to these clubs is that they were standard length and I play + .5". So in my love affair with Offer Up, I found a guy selling a really nice set of Callaway RAZR X MB's with the exact Royal Precision shafts at +1" over standard. Well I set the line, offered a trade for my Maltbys and the seller took the bait and accepted. I chopped them down by half an inch, threw on my favorite grips, and I've been playing these Cally blades for quite a few months. I LOVE them! They look sexy, feel superb, have the shafts that I want, and handle like a Porsche.. the catch-22 is that last part. They very much are a true sports car of golf clubs. Sure they're a hell of a lot of fun.. but after a while they can beat you up pretty good too. Well in light of the MGS Cobra Forged Tec giveaway, I was starting to remember how much I missed my more forgiving TS-1's as they could potentially fall under the same category of "player's distance" clubs. After a lot of breath holding and finding out that I was not the new owner of a nice new set of Cobras, I decided to go off and look for some more TS-1's (used). Wouldn't you know it, there's a guy just down the road selling a barely used set for a song and a dance (benefits and disadvantages of used Maltby). I'll be able to pull the shafts, install my Royal Precisions, and then sell both the Callaway heads and pulled shafts for just enough $ to fund the purchase of the TS-1's AND I'll have my unicorn holy grail shaft in my beloved Maltbys. I'm hoping to have them put together this week and back in the bag. Kansas King, tommc23, edingc and 2 others 5 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 If anyone was curious about how the profile of the TS-1 stacks up against a "true blade".. this is how it looks up against my Callaway RAZR X MB. Nothing in it really. Maybe a slightly wider sole and a fraction longer blade. Should have these glued up tonight and ready for the course by the weekend MyWifesSwingCoach, tommc23 and cnosil 3 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas King Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 @azstu324 I agree about those FCM Rifles being special. I remember trying a set of TMs back in the day that had them and loved that shaft but it certainly wasn't a 6.5 (maybe 5.5 or 6.0). Regarding TS1s, they are my current target club and really have been for at least the last 12 months. I've just been too lazy and cheap (kind of a rich statement considering they're Maltbys!) to start the fitting process. My problem is that I don't want to play the shaft guessing game. I've playing Callaway Uniflex, PX Flighted Rifles (5.5), S300s, and Ping AWTs in the past. I'm currently playing some unlabeled stepless Apollo shaft in my MMB-17s. I also have built a few test irons using the TT Score shafts. I like the launch of my current Apollos but they are too light. The S300s are a little too heavy. The PX Rifles were okay but they felt too much like a board, even with only the 5.5 flex. The Ping AWTs in my i15s and my current Apollos are also a little too light. I actually really liked the feel of the TT Scores but they launch too high. I suspect my best iron shaft will be KBS Tours as I've tested well with those on the launch monitor and I like the feel. I'm thinking I'll probably have to play the shaft roulette game a little and get a test club(s) from Golfworks before committing. I bought a TS2 club from eBay a while back with a TT Score shaft and it was okay but I though the head was a little chunky and again, that shaft is apparently designed to send balls to the moon. Funny enough, the eBay seller told me he bought the club to for testing too and had similar thoughts on it. He said he went with the TS1s and loves them. azstu324 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Kansas King said: @azstu324 I agree about those FCM Rifles being special. I remember trying a set of TMs back in the day that had them and loved that shaft but it certainly wasn't a 6.5 (maybe 5.5 or 6.0). Regarding TS1s, they are my current target club and really have been for at least the last 12 months. I've just been too lazy and cheap (kind of a rich statement considering they're Maltbys!) to start the fitting process. My problem is that I don't want to play the shaft guessing game. I've playing Callaway Uniflex, PX Flighted Rifles (5.5), S300s, and Ping AWTs in the past. I'm currently playing some unlabeled stepless Apollo shaft in my MMB-17s. I also have built a few test irons using the TT Score shafts. I like the launch of my current Apollos but they are too light. The S300s are a little too heavy. The PX Rifles were okay but they felt too much like a board, even with only the 5.5 flex. The Ping AWTs in my i15s and my current Apollos are also a little too light. I actually really liked the feel of the TT Scores but they launch too high. I suspect my best iron shaft will be KBS Tours as I've tested well with those on the launch monitor and I like the feel. I'm thinking I'll probably have to play the shaft roulette game a little and get a test club(s) from Golfworks before committing. I bought a TS2 club from eBay a while back with a TT Score shaft and it was okay but I though the head was a little chunky and again, that shaft is apparently designed to send balls to the moon. Funny enough, the eBay seller told me he bought the club to for testing too and had similar thoughts on it. He said he went with the TS1s and loves them. The shafts that I built my initial set with were the TT DG105 S300's. Those were really good. Didn't launch too high but I could send some to the moon or flight low when needed. I did realize through this whole process and finding the Royal Precisions that my ideal weight is the 110-115g range. FYI, in researching Royal Precision, their frequency scale was a full flex lighter than PX.. but lighter and much smoother. 6.5 is a true S flex. Not like PX where 6.0 is their intended stiff but still plays like XXS. Maybe these photos will provide you with some inspiration Got the clubs yesterday. Pulled the graphite shafts in them. Cleaned everything and glued them up tonight. Took some acetone and a scotch Brite to the Red part on the M for a cleaner black and chrome look. Kansas King, tommc23, MyWifesSwingCoach and 1 other 4 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas King Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 12 hours ago, azstu324 said: The shafts that I built my initial set with were the TT DG105 S300's. Those were really good. Didn't launch too high but I could send some to the moon or flight low when needed. I did realize through this whole process and finding the Royal Precisions that my ideal weight is the 110-115g range. FYI, in researching Royal Precision, their frequency scale was a full flex lighter than PX.. but lighter and much smoother. 6.5 is a true S flex. Not like PX where 6.0 is their intended stiff but still plays like XXS. Maybe these photos will provide you with some inspiration Got the clubs yesterday. Pulled the graphite shafts in them. Cleaned everything and glued them up tonight. Took some acetone and a scotch Brite to the Red part on the M for a cleaner black and chrome look. Those look good! What kind of grips are those? I was looking at Golfworks and a set from the Custom Shop is $700 - $800 with Star Sidewinder grips. I haven't looked at shafts in a while and can say that prices have gone up significantly. I could cheap out and buy a set of pulls of eBay but that's always dicey and the pulls aren't as cheap as I feel they should be. There are a couple other shafts I would like to try, namely the Nippon 1150GH, Tour Modus 105, and some of the other Project X shafts that have a little more give. I suppose I should just buck up and swing by my local fitter and pay the $100 bucks and get fitted for something like a Titleist T100 that would match up relatively well with the TS1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, Kansas King said: Those look good! What kind of grips are those? I was looking at Golfworks and a set from the Custom Shop is $700 - $800 with Star Sidewinder grips. I haven't looked at shafts in a while and can say that prices have gone up significantly. I could cheap out and buy a set of pulls of eBay but that's always dicey and the pulls aren't as cheap as I feel they should be. There are a couple other shafts I would like to try, namely the Nippon 1150GH, Tour Modus 105, and some of the other Project X shafts that have a little more give. I suppose I should just buck up and swing by my local fitter and pay the $100 bucks and get fitted for something like a Titleist T100 that would match up relatively well with the TS1. Before I built my own clubs I was looking at eBay and Golfworks for shafts and golfworks won on prices with the 1150. Kansas King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas King Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 minute ago, tommc23 said: Before I built my own clubs I was looking at eBay and Golfworks for shafts and golfworks won on prices with the 1150. As far as new golf shafts go, Golfworks is the place I would go. It seems pretty rare for there to ever be specials on mainline steel irons shafts anyway. The prices for shaft pulls on eBay is what kind of caught me off guard. They were asking around $150 for a set of 7 or 8 KBS Tours and I though that was pretty steep, however. New KBS Tours are now $40, so I guess a set of pulls is roughly half price. The problem I have will the used pulls costing so much for a set on eBay is that they could easily be 10 years old and not know it. I'm also not fond of the idea of paying $20/shaft for used KBS Tours when I can get new Nippon 1150GH shafts for $24.50 each. Overall, I think the used club component used market is in a weird space. I suspect prices will come down significantly over the next year. I should really just stop Bi****n about used club prices because at the end of the day, I'm wasting a lot of time over $100 - $200. It's just frustrating because I know how much of this crap is just sitting around collecting dust. tommc23 and azstu324 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Kansas King said: Those look good! What kind of grips are those? I was looking at Golfworks and a set from the Custom Shop is $700 - $800 with Star Sidewinder grips. I haven't looked at shafts in a while and can say that prices have gone up significantly. I could cheap out and buy a set of pulls of eBay but that's always dicey and the pulls aren't as cheap as I feel they should be. There are a couple other shafts I would like to try, namely the Nippon 1150GH, Tour Modus 105, and some of the other Project X shafts that have a little more give. I suppose I should just buck up and swing by my local fitter and pay the $100 bucks and get fitted for something like a Titleist T100 that would match up relatively well with the TS1. The grips are PURES. I actually prefer Star grips.. Side story.. Star grips started before Pure here in Arizona. According to the owner of Star who I got to chat with a few years back, a couple of guys working at Star left with what they thought was the formula and started PURE. We'll apparently they didn't get the full formula but close enough to start the company. IMO Stars are slightly softer and don't have ANY notable odor. PUREs have a slight rubbery smell that comes off on your hands. I ended up with PUREs because I found a guy selling them at a steal (literally they might have been stolen ) at $25 for 14. As for the used shafts, I'm sure there are different schools of thought but I was once told that steel shafts don't really lose their frequency or profile factors.. unless they're damaged. So you just have to be careful to look for damage. I have had a lot of success with local Offer Up. You can find a few reliable sellers who might work for a club shop, own a fitting business, etc. At least here in AZ it's worked out well. I've got a couple guys that I reach out to that are constantly selling shaft pulls for $85-$100. I did exactly what you mentioned. I was able to have complete access to all of the fitting stuff at PGATSS and just paired up a TM P770 head with various shafts. In hindsight, I probably should have picked a different brand and model because IMO the TS-1 is a better performing head but it was enough for what I needed. I'll say this, I was able to find this full set 5-GW for $225 and it's great condition (I probably got lucky). But I'll turn around and sell the shafts that were in it for $75. I count that towards my build cost. So I'll be all in $150 for the heads when the shafts sell. Compared to spending $350 for 7 new heads from GW. So if you can find a used set, you might be able to throw the savings towards some nice shafts. I find myself playing the golf component shell game all the time so that I can justify getting other stuff. Kansas King 1 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas King Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 19 hours ago, azstu324 said: The grips are PURES. I actually prefer Star grips.. Side story.. Star grips started before Pure here in Arizona. According to the owner of Star who I got to chat with a few years back, a couple of guys working at Star left with what they thought was the formula and started PURE. We'll apparently they didn't get the full formula but close enough to start the company. IMO Stars are slightly softer and don't have ANY notable odor. PUREs have a slight rubbery smell that comes off on your hands. I ended up with PUREs because I found a guy selling them at a steal (literally they might have been stolen ) at $25 for 14. As for the used shafts, I'm sure there are different schools of thought but I was once told that steel shafts don't really lose their frequency or profile factors.. unless they're damaged. So you just have to be careful to look for damage. I have had a lot of success with local Offer Up. You can find a few reliable sellers who might work for a club shop, own a fitting business, etc. At least here in AZ it's worked out well. I've got a couple guys that I reach out to that are constantly selling shaft pulls for $85-$100. I did exactly what you mentioned. I was able to have complete access to all of the fitting stuff at PGATSS and just paired up a TM P770 head with various shafts. In hindsight, I probably should have picked a different brand and model because IMO the TS-1 is a better performing head but it was enough for what I needed. I'll say this, I was able to find this full set 5-GW for $225 and it's great condition (I probably got lucky). But I'll turn around and sell the shafts that were in it for $75. I count that towards my build cost. So I'll be all in $150 for the heads when the shafts sell. Compared to spending $350 for 7 new heads from GW. So if you can find a used set, you might be able to throw the savings towards some nice shafts. I find myself playing the golf component shell game all the time so that I can justify getting other stuff. I've read the story on Star grips and I think they are worth a shot. Plus, even at $8/grip new, the price is decent. Regarding used shafts, I'm confident that any steel shaft of any age would hold up well assuming there isn't damage. Unfortunately, the plains states don't have a strong local used market like Arizona or Florida does. Regarding fitting, I'm thinking to do it right, I'll just ask and pay the fitter to install their hosel adaptor on a Maltby TS1 head. This would ensure there are not any question marks about what I'm getting fit for. The biggest issue when fitting for Maltbys is that COG is usually so much further away from the shaft/hosel (C dimension) that they tend to behave a little differently. I noticed that with my MMB 17s. I feel like it's kind of hard to describe but CG measurements matter a lot when it comes to club fitting. I've done some tests with various irons (using same shaft, length, similar loft, etc.) that have different COGs and the all flight differences are more pronounced than Ralph would lead you to believe in his literature. That's why I would be a little nervous to use any normal OEMs for a fitting since none of them have a C dimension like Maltby TS1s do. azstu324 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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