Shot Scope Users Group

[Mr. Mushball]

1 hour ago, PhilM75072 said:

Old tags and new tags are both compatible with all devices, V3, H4 and X5.

I'm sure it will come with a box of tags.  I'd actually like to see them extend the tag options as I have two hybrids, a full set of wedges and a wood in my bag.  There's enough to make it work, but it would nice to see this expanded.   It would probably mean that the tags are re-designed and not be backwards compatible.  I'm sure the current tags only have 4-bit identifiers.  However, if they went up to 8-bit, maybe they could also get a bit fancier with tracking brand as well as number.  I find that tracking a set that evolves over time a bit clumsy.  I'd like Set A to be red, Set B to be Blue, etc.

 

[PhilM75072]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Mushball said:

I'm sure it will come with a box of tags.  I'd actually like to see them extend the tag options as I have two hybrids, a full set of wedges and a wood in my bag.  There's enough to make it work, but it would nice to see this expanded.   It would probably mean that the tags are re-designed and not be backwards compatible.  I'm sure the current tags only have 4-bit identifiers.  However, if they went up to 8-bit, maybe they could also get a bit fancier with tracking brand as well as number.  I find that tracking a set that evolves over time a bit clumsy.  I'd like Set A to be red, Set B to be Blue, etc.

 

Four additional tags will be made available as an accessory pack, H2, 3i, X3, X4

[tony@CIC]

It was tempting but I decided to hold off. I have a golf budget for the year and decided to spend $200 on 4 lessons instead.  My V3 has been a solid performer and figured any golf improvement would come from lessons vs. updated technology. 

[MIgregb]

16 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

It was tempting but I decided to hold off. I have a golf budget for the year and decided to spend $200 on 4 lessons instead.  My V3 has been a solid performer and figured any golf improvement would come from lessons vs. updated technology. 

Heresy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Got the Stealth Black. I like the added hole layout features as I play several new courses every year, not to mention the improved tracking capabilities. Now that I own a V2 watch, V3 watch and the H4, let's see if this one lowers my handicap!!!

[tony@CIC]

25 minutes ago, MIgregb said:

Heresy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

Yes I know, however, I'm still a huge SS supporter. 

[fozcycle]

I think I will make my V3 available as I have a full set of unused tags. If anyone is interested, let me know.

[Hobert]

3 minutes ago, fozcycle said:

I think I will make my V3 available as I have a full set of unused tags. If anyone is interested, let me know.

Hmmm, I have been toying with the idea of more data collection...

[PhilM75072]

4 hours ago, MIgregb said:

Heresy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Got the Stealth Black. I like the added hole layout features as I play several new courses every year, not to mention the improved tracking capabilities. Now that I own a V2 watch, V3 watch and the H4, let's see if this one lowers my handicap!!!

Currently, the only "layout" shown is the green. They have plans to have the entire hole shown, maybe as early as this summer.

[Mr. Mushball]

1 hour ago, PhilM75072 said:

Currently, the only "layout" shown is the green. They have plans to have the entire hole shown, maybe as early as this summer.

Yes, but it now tells dogleg distances.  It may be in the similar form of the current layup and hazard distances, but I'd say it's still part of course layout.  Just not graphical.  If the graphics come later, even more cool.  

[MIgregb]

On 3/13/2023 at 12:38 PM, MIgregb said:

The Samsung March 2023 update for my S22+ just came through (now with One UI 5.1 overlay) and the same home screen display issue is still present on the app. I get that developing apps for Android is a bigger challenge than for iOS (there has to be a few advantages to locking down an OS), and Samsung makes it an even bigger challenge with it's One UI.  But it's not like Samsung is a minor player in the market with a handful of smartphones with which they have to contend. This display issue has persisted since November. Everything still seems to function, it's very annoying to have to drill down to see basic round info on the app. Rant finished... for now.

OK... so now they're just pissing me off! An app update just came through and I had my usual high hopes that they finally fixed the 6-month-old display problem when using the latest Samsung Android software. But the only change I can find is an ad banner on the home page pushing the X5! I already bought an X5. I've also bought a V2, a V3 and an H4. Fix the dang app already!!!

[MattF]

3 hours ago, MIgregb said:

OK... so now they're just pissing me off! An app update just came through and I had my usual high hopes that they finally fixed the 6-month-old display problem when using the latest Samsung Android software. But the only change I can find is an ad banner on the home page pushing the X5! I already bought an X5. I've also bought a V2, a V3 and an H4. Fix the dang app already!!!

Are you sure it's not the Samsung or phone company overlay that's the issue?

I have a Pixel and get straight Android, no overlays and don't have any of the issues that people are complaining about.

[MIgregb]

1 hour ago, MattF said:

Are you sure it's not the Samsung or phone company overlay that's the issue?

I have a Pixel and get straight Android, no overlays and don't have any of the issues that people are complaining about.

You are correct; it's probably Samsung's One UI 5.1 overlay. In fact, we briefly chatted about this previously and I confirmed your hypothesis by using my wife's Pixel 5a. But it isn't like Samsung is some rinky-dink handset provider with a few thousand out on the market. They're the 2nd largest manufacturer in the world, 2nd only to iPhone. They have millions of handsets on the market using this same software.  And I have hundreds of other apps on my phone (including system apps and my own downloaded apps), and Shot Scope's is the only one unable to work correctly.  I just think that 6 months should be enough time to figure things out.

BTW, in spite of my frustration with the app, I'm still a Shot Scope fan and I'm anxious to get the X5. I just don't want them to get complacent by thinking everything is sunshine and roses!! 

[rlb4]

6 hours ago, MIgregb said:

OK... so now they're just pissing me off! An app update just came through and I had my usual high hopes that they finally fixed the 6-month-old display problem when using the latest Samsung Android software. But the only change I can find is an ad banner on the home page pushing the X5! I already bought an X5. I've also bought a V2, a V3 and an H4. Fix the dang app already!!!

I have a Galaxy S8 and don't have any banners. Does it pop up when you log into the app?

Edited March 24, 2023 by rlb4

[MIgregb]

29 minutes ago, rlb4 said:

I have a Galaxy S8 and don't have any banners. Does it pop up when you log into the app?

Yes. I've gotten in the habit of "clearing data" after every update (says it's Ver 3.13.2). But after logging back in, the X5 ad banner was just under the Connect Device banner. The good part is that they gave you the option of hiding it once you've read it, so I did.  

[tony@CIC]

20 hours ago, MIgregb said:

You are correct; it's probably Samsung's One UI 5.1 overlay. In fact, we briefly chatted about this previously and I confirmed your hypothesis by using my wife's Pixel 5a. But it isn't like Samsung is some rinky-dink handset provider with a few thousand out on the market. They're the 2nd largest manufacturer in the world, 2nd only to iPhone. They have millions of handsets on the market using this same software.  And I have hundreds of other apps on my phone (including system apps and my own downloaded apps), and Shot Scope's is the only one unable to work correctly.  I just think that 6 months should be enough time to figure things out.

BTW, in spite of my frustration with the app, I'm still a Shot Scope fan and I'm anxious to get the X5. I just don't want them to get complacent by thinking everything is sunshine and roses!! 

Can you bluetooth to the desktop app instead? 

[MIgregb]

26 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:

Can you bluetooth to the desktop app instead? 

I didn't know that was even possible. But if I'm at my PC, I can just log into the Shot Scope website and do everything from there. It's when I'm reviewing the round at the golf course, or otherwise away from my PC, that the app's wonky display is a bother. Thanks! 

[tony@CIC]

22 hours ago, MIgregb said:

I didn't know that was even possible. But if I'm at my PC, I can just log into the Shot Scope website and do everything from there. It's when I'm reviewing the round at the golf course, or otherwise away from my PC, that the app's wonky display is a bother. Thanks! 

Ok I now understand - I thought it was the editing function after the sync  when you got back home. 

[GolfSpy Barbajo]

Got the X5 in yesterday - it's a pretty solid piece of equipment. Only issue I see right now is for some reason it thinks March 26this Monday and not Sunday. We'll check with Gavin about that. 

It appears to be a little more streamlined than, say, a Garmin, and you can see the comparison pix next to the Apple watch. It's not meant to be a Smart Watch, but I could see wearing this off course, especially since I only use maybe 1/100th of the Apple watch's capabilities. 

The sensors are very different - you can see the screw portion is a good bit longer for a better fit, and the head itself is larger - the better to have fewer missed shots, my dear

Have the bag all set up for today's season opener at Black Swan in Georgetown, MA. Going to game the new MacGregor MT86 OS irons - golly Moses they're pretty.  The rest of the bag includes the Wilson Staff Dynapower 3-wood (do not ignore this weapon - it's really good). PXG Gen 4 hybrid, Srixon ZX Utility 3 iron and the MacGregors 5-PW. The wedges are something new that I can't show you until tomorrow. 

 

[GolfSpy_APH]

1 hour ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said:

Got the X5 in yesterday - it's a pretty solid piece of equipment. Only issue I see right now is for some reason it thinks March 26this Monday and not Sunday. We'll check with Gavin about that. 

It appears to be a little more streamlined than, say, a Garmin, and you can see the comparison pix next to the Apple watch. It's not meant to be a Smart Watch, but I could see wearing this off course, especially since I only use maybe 1/100th of the Apple watch's capabilities. 

The sensors are very different - you can see the screw portion is a good bit longer for a better fit, and the head itself is larger - the better to have fewer missed shots, my dear

Have the bag all set up for today's season opener at Black Swan in Georgetown, MA. Going to game the new MacGregor MT86 OS irons - golly Moses they're pretty.  The rest of the bag includes the Wilson Staff Dynapower 3-wood (do not ignore this weapon - it's really good). PXG Gen 4 hybrid, Srixon ZX Utility 3 iron and the MacGregors 5-PW. The wedges are something new that I can't show you until tomorrow. 

 

May be a silly question, but how well does the X5 function as well just a normal watch?

[PhilM75072]

1 hour ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said:

Only issue I see right now is for some reason it thinks March 26this Monday and not Sunday. We'll check with Gavin about that. 

Have you synced it with your phone, yet? I wonder if that wouldn't correct the time and date.

[CudaKota66]

5 hours ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said:

Got the X5 in yesterday - it's a pretty solid piece of equipment. Only issue I see right now is for some reason it thinks March 26this Monday and not Sunday. We'll check with Gavin about that. 

It appears to be a little more streamlined than, say, a Garmin, and you can see the comparison pix next to the Apple watch. It's not meant to be a Smart Watch, but I could see wearing this off course, especially since I only use maybe 1/100th of the Apple watch's capabilities. 

The sensors are very different - you can see the screw portion is a good bit longer for a better fit, and the head itself is larger - the better to have fewer missed shots, my dear

Have the bag all set up for today's season opener at Black Swan in Georgetown, MA. Going to game the new MacGregor MT86 OS irons - golly Moses they're pretty.  The rest of the bag includes the Wilson Staff Dynapower 3-wood (do not ignore this weapon - it's really good). PXG Gen 4 hybrid, Srixon ZX Utility 3 iron and the MacGregors 5-PW. The wedges are something new that I can't show you until tomorrow. 

 

 

Sweet! That does look very similar to my Samsung Gear watch - rotating bezel & all. Very nice design @Gavin_Shot_Scope

Glad you're able to get out today, @GolfSpy Barbajo  Two inches of rain here the last 2 days has left things pretty soggy/muddy following the spring thaw. Of course, my showers predicted tonight. Did someone move Indiana to the Pacific NW while I was sleeping???

Let us know how the recording performance goes & if the new features (i.e., layup yardages, etc) are beneficial

[GolfSpy Barbajo]

Learned something very important - it's a VERY good idea to download the User Manual and actually read the damn thing before going out and playing.  On some levels it's very intuitive, but like most things, you really do need to RTFM (read the fu#$@%ing manual). Worked like a champ for the first 12 holes and the I tried to access a few other functions -- and then I did something dumb (really not sure what) and wound up turning off the tracking function - wasn't really aware of doing it until I synched everything up at home. 

I want to stress - that's user error, 100%. For the first 12 holes it worked flawlessly.  Putting it still a crap shoot -- it's ability to pick up the first putt is only so-so - very similar to ARCOSS on that respect. Best to place the putts as best you can during post round editing. 

Several positives -- my previous Shot Scope devices would take forever to find the course and start the GPS section. The X5 started up in no time at all. Numbers were as spot on as a GPS could be, although the doglegs were a little confusing. Again, I need to RTFM to really know. 

Nothing turned me off - in all I've found Shot Scope to be a hell of a lot better than ARCOSS, which led to nothing but frustration for me (especially when it couldn't find Pinehurst #2 or #4 when I played). 

The layup yardages worked just fine -- you do have to hold down the lock button for a few seconds to be able to move to different screens to get them - again, if yours truly had RTFM he would have known beforehand and not looked like such a doofus. 

[GolfSpy Barbajo]

7 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

May be a silly question, but how well does the X5 function as well just a normal watch?

It's functional - face options are limited. It tells time okay, but it's not fancy. It works...and it's counted steps. 

7 hours ago, PhilM75072 said:

Have you synced it with your phone, yet? I wonder if that wouldn't correct the time and date.

Did sync it with the phone, and it still had the wrong day.  I let Gavin know - he's going to look into it. 

[CudaKota66]

34 minutes ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said:

Learned something very important - it's a VERY good idea to download the User Manual and actually read the damn thing before going out and playing.  On some levels it's very intuitive, but like most things, you really do need to RTFM (read the fu#$@%ing manual). Worked like a champ for the first 12 holes and the I tried to access a few other functions -- and then I did something dumb (really not sure what) and wound up turning off the tracking function - wasn't really aware of doing it until I synched everything up at home. 

I want to stress - that's user error, 100%. For the first 12 holes it worked flawlessly.  Putting it still a crap shoot -- it's ability to pick up the first putt is only so-so - very similar to ARCOSS on that respect. Best to place the putts as best you can during post round editing. 

Several positives -- my previous Shot Scope devices would take forever to find the course and start the GPS section. The X5 started up in no time at all. Numbers were as spot on as a GPS could be, although the doglegs were a little confusing. Again, I need to RTFM to really know. 

Nothing turned me off - in all I've found Shot Scope to be a hell of a lot better than ARCOSS, which led to nothing but frustration for me (especially when it couldn't find Pinehurst #2 or #4 when I played). 

The layup yardages worked just fine -- you do have to hold down the lock button for a few seconds to be able to move to different screens to get them - again, if yours truly had RTFM he would have known beforehand and not looked like such a doofus. 

@GolfSpy Barbajo  Thanks for being the guinea pig, lab rat, sacrificial lamb, or whatever you prefer

For those of us to come: https://shotscope.com/us/getstarted/x5/userguide/  Personally, mine doesn't ship until the week after The Masters so I have plenty of study time. Besides, the weather here has been sketchy & I'll have no conflict between watching/playing. After 4 months of dormancy, what's another 2 weeks 

 

 

 

[TylorJudd]

On 2/21/2023 at 5:22 PM, TylorJudd said:

Looks like that will be a persistent problem

So I reached out to SS user support, they pushed an update and voila. The championship course in my city was found. Worked great today, missed 21 strokes... But I use a backup app as well so no biggie. Pretty awesome little system

[Paul Hedrick]

I have been hearing a lot about the new X5, and receiving several emails from ShotScope attempting to temp me into purchasing.  Looking over the specs of the device, for me it is just not the time.   I will wait until I start hearing from people who have already purchased, and used it, to get their thoughts and impressions.  For the moment I will stay with my V3.

[cksurfdude]

15 hours ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said:

Putting it still a crap shoot -- it's ability to pick up the first putt is only so-so ...

... previous Shot Scope devices would take forever to find the course and start the GPS section. The X5 started up in no time at all.

Hmmm not happy to hear about the putting, but am glad about the quick startup.

Didn't see mentioned - did the Date / Time adjust after you'd connected to a GPS signal?

[GolfSpy Barbajo]

2 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

Hmmm not happy to hear about the putting, but am glad about the quick startup.

Didn't see mentioned - did the Date / Time adjust after you'd connected to a GPS signal?

Didn't notice during the round - but just looked at it now and date and day are correct. Not sure why it was wrong or what changed it, but it's fine now. 

Putting with ARCOSS and ShotScope is what it is -- I'm wondering if the AI element of X5 will improve putting stats over time. 

[MattF]

Weird about the putting. I've never had a problem with the V3 picking up the first putts on a hole.

[tony@CIC]

5 hours ago, MattF said:

Weird about the putting. I've never had a problem with the V3 picking up the first putts on a hole.

Same here - putting is not a problem ...at least for the V3. Me on the other hand ....let's not talk about it.