Shotscope Users Group

[Chip Strokes]

4 minutes ago, Dr Strangelove said:

- If that matters to you (it does to me), I've developed the following routine.  After I hit my first putt, I walk out the distance to the hole using the old "1 yard step."  When I'm done with the hole, I write that distance on the scorecard.  My post round edit is to move the landing spot of the shot that hit the green to match that distance.  It takes about 15 minutes to be honest, so not trivial.

i've been keeping "first putt distance" stats in a very rudimentary fashion for about half a season now by pacing off my first putt.  

seems like not too much adjustment for me there

[MattF]

4 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

What's the code for the MGS leaderboard? 

 

4 hours ago, Dr Strangelove said:

Global. How do I access the MGS board?

Gentlemen...and I use that term loosely!

MYGSPY

[ejgaudette]

2 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

i'm considering buying a shotscope v3 this winter, but i absolutely HATE gadgets and technology that isn't super user friendly.

so, walk me through this:

how much fiddling and tinkering do you have to do with either your watch or your phone in a round of golf? is there a long editing process after the round? does wearing/using the watch take away from actually playing golf at all when you're out on the course?

thanks all!

I would echo that my V2 had missed maybe one shot in a dozen rounds but editing the putting is a must for more accurate strikes gained. Usually take me about 5 minutes to adjust maybe 10 on a very tree lined course where the GPS might struggle. Plus the one time investment is nice, no annual fee.

[Chip Strokes]

6 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

I would echo that my V2 had missed maybe one shot in a dozen rounds but editing the putting is a must for more accurate strikes gained. Usually take me about 5 minutes to adjust maybe 10 on a very tree lined course where the GPS might struggle. Plus the one time investment is nice, no annual fee.

is this 5-10 minutes of adjustment done on the fly on the course, or is all the editing done at home on the couch with a nice cold beer?

[ejgaudette]

Just now, Chip Strokes said:

is this 5-10 minutes of adjustment done on the fly on the course, or is all the editing done at home on the couch with a nice cold beer?

At home with the beer your feet up

[Chip Strokes]

3 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

At home with the beer your feet up

not so bad i suppose.

so on the course it's just tapping for pin location on each hole.

then at home it's adding in first putt distances, any shots that didn't register, and penalty strokes?

[ejgaudette]

1 minute ago, Chip Strokes said:

not so bad i suppose.

so on the course it's just tapping for pin location on each hole.

then at home it's adding in first putt distances, any shots that didn't register, and penalty strokes?

Basically yup just standing next to the flag and hitting a single button on the watch to mark the pin and then a little editing at home. I would say only penalties and putts. My only missed shot was a chip shot with no practice swing. With your speed I am sure the sensor will know its moving.

[Chip Strokes]

3 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

My only missed shot was a chip shot with no practice swing. With your speed I am sure the sensor will know its moving.

interesting, and this leads me to another question - sorry for the barrage.

i generally dont take practice swings on my full swing shots, but i usually do on pitches and chips to see how the club and turf are going to interact.

how does shotscope differentiate from the 3-4 practice swings and the real thing? surely it doesn't count 3 strokes while you're practicing.

[ejgaudette]

6 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

interesting, and this leads me to another question - sorry for the barrage.

i generally dont take practice swings on my full swing shots, but i usually do on pitches and chips to see how the club and turf are going to interact.

how does shotscope differentiate from the 3-4 practice swings and the real thing? surely it doesn't count 3 strokes while you're practicing.

Nope not at all basically once you get the sensor to activate it notes what tag it is and where you are for the tracking, but only once. It would also not even count a second ball from the same spot as a new shot. 

Even when testing my driver and the Epic this year only the second club activated is recorded for the shot. Also happy to help that's what this is all about.

[Chip Strokes]

1 minute ago, ejgaudette said:

Nope not at all basically once you get the sensor to activate it notes what tag it is and where you are for the tracking, but only once. It would also not even count a second ball from the same spot as a new shot. 

Even when testing my driver and the Epic this year only the second club activated is recorded for the shot. Also happy to help that's what this is all about.

thanks! i definitely appreciate all the info.

it SEEMS pretty idiot proof, but i'm definitely the one to test that theory.  

[Larryw]

4 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

it SEEMS pretty idiot proof, but i'm definitely the one to test that theory.  

Everyone has just about covered the minimum impact and the phone is not required on the course.

But, I use the "manual" putting setting. This only requires pushing one button as you stand over the ball - ready for your putt - on each putt you hit. (hopefully only 1 or 2 per hole ). Then as you get your ball out of the hole, you push one button to record the pin location.

I have found that it records the putt distances more accurately for me using the manual method. Perhaps I am settled longer over the ball in my pre-putt routine - pressing the button as one of the last things I do before hitting each putt. I could never figure out how it knew the putt locations if I just pushed "2" putts. Since I tend to make practice putts (without a ball) while standing around waiting for other players to putt - I just didn't know how it determines practice putt from real putt.

I don't even have the tag in my putter. Manual works much better for me.

[tony@CIC]

1 hour ago, MattF said:

Gentlemen...and I use that term loosely!

And here I thought we were friends

[tony@CIC]

1 hour ago, ejgaudette said:

Nope not at all basically once you get the sensor to activate it notes what tag it is and where you are for the tracking, but only once. It would also not even count a second ball from the same spot as a new shot. 

Even when testing my driver and the Epic this year only the second club activated is recorded for the shot. Also happy to help that's what this is all about.

Yup and I like the feature - being able to look at the watch and see the club is identified on the watch. 

[ejgaudette]

2 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

thanks! i definitely appreciate all the info.

it SEEMS pretty idiot proof, but i'm definitely the one to test that theory.  

You're welcome and in all my testing it has passed all the stupid things I have done with flying colors 

[toehold57]

12 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

That didn't work for me. The menu says 6 characters. I'm sure @MattF will pip in soon on the code. 

I’m hoping we don’t have multiple boards out there.  Here’s a screenshot of the code I used.

[revkev]

Well I have definitive proof that if you forget to wear the watch, it doesn't work.    

 

That's happened my last two rounds.

[Golfhandds]

On 8/4/2021 at 1:25 PM, Larryw said:

Everyone has just about covered the minimum impact and the phone is not required on the course.

But, I use the "manual" putting setting. This only requires pushing one button as you stand over the ball - ready for your putt - on each putt you hit. (hopefully only 1 or 2 per hole ). Then as you get your ball out of the hole, you push one button to record the pin location.

I have found that it records the putt distances more accurately for me using the manual method. Perhaps I am settled longer over the ball in my pre-putt routine - pressing the button as one of the last things I do before hitting each putt. I could never figure out how it knew the putt locations if I just pushed "2" putts. Since I tend to make practice putts (without a ball) while standing around waiting for other players to putt - I just didn't know how it determines practice putt from real putt.

I don't even have the tag in my putter. Manual works much better for me.

I find it does a pretty good job of recording putts.  You can practice putt all day without a ball and it doesn't record that.  I assume that it has an accelerometer in the watch that can tell a ball impact.  You have to tell it how many times you used the putter because of gimmes and very short putts.  If you have a ten foot putt and you putt to one foot and pick up, it knows that you two putted only if you press 2 when locating the pin.  Even if you putt out, the GPS is not accurate to inches so it couldn't locate accurately that an 18 inch putt took place.  I believe it defaults your last putt to about two feet when there is a discrepancy between your pin locator press and the number of putts it actually records.  

[MIgregb]

On 8/1/2021 at 12:38 PM, MIgregb said:

So it will be a bit longer before I can truly report back that the factory reset corrected my missed shots issue, because I didn't realize until I was already at the course that one of the tags had fallen off . However, it does appear that all of my other shots did record. Once again, I'll report back after my next round, hopefully tomorrow.

Alright, so... It seems that the factory reset has cleared up my missed shots issue, at least for 2 rounds. But I still have extraneous shots that show up from time to time. They always seems to be from the club I last used and knowing that makes it simple to delete it. But I'm still not sure why it happens at all.

I clearly remember one of them. I hit a great 8 iron over a row of pine trees (yes, that means my previous shot was a driver over said trees into the adjacent fairway; but that's another issue!!!!). But I misjudged direction a bit and flew over the other side of the fairway. So instead of waiting for my playing partner to pick me up, I started walking to my ball occasionally using the club as a walking stick. I don't recall "hitting" an object or the ground, but I did ground the club.  I'm guessing one of those got recorded as a shot.

Anyway, the reset seems to have eliminated the missed shot issue.  Tony@CIC, thanks again for posting it!

[toehold57]

We talked about this a bit last year.  
 

• My take is when you take a practice swing the tag and watch sync up, you can see what club you have on the watch.  Remember, the watch band has an antenna in it, so the tags and watch do talk to each other.
• The watch now reads the GPS coordinates.  It has no idea if and when you actually hit the ball.
• After you move some distance away from this location the watch will assume you will be hitting your next shot

Several have noticed that if you seriously duff one a short distance that only one shot will be recorded.

It’s a simple design that appears to work well.

[MattF]

21 hours ago, MIgregb said:

So instead of waiting for my playing partner to pick me up, I started walking to my ball occasionally using the club as a walking stick. I don't recall "hitting" an object or the ground, but I did ground the club.  I'm guessing one of those got recorded as a shot.

If you do that, hold the club in the other hand so it's not near the watch. You don't have to ground the club or hit anything for it to pick it up, the tag being within 4" of the watch is what records.