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2021 MGS Ball Test


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Flight?  Driver, fairway, hybrid, iron, wedges.....

Spin?  Driver, fairway, hybrid, iron, wedges....

Launch?  Driver, fairway, hybrid, iron, wedges.....

Ball speed? Driver, fairway, hybrid, iron, wedges....

Soft vs hard.......

Typical performance standards for premium golf balls.....guess most would like to know how if comparing balls, how the premium compare to one another, especially against the number one balls (Prov1 and Prov1x).......

   

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Would love to know how the results from the survey you sent out a few weeks ago has informed the the testing.  Is there anything you will do differently based on MGS reader input?

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Woods/Hybrid: :ping-small: 10.5* K15 SF Tec, 16* K15 SF Tec, 20* i15

5i-PW: :taylormade-small: RocketBladez SF

Wedges: :cleveland-small: 50*,54* RTX ZipCore :vokey-small: 60* SM4 :callaway-small: 64* Mack Daddy 2

Putter: :1332069271_TommyArmour:  Impact No. 3 CB

Ball: :Snell: MTB-X or :srixon-small: Z-Star

Bags: :ping-small:  Pioneer (cart), Hopper (stand)

Push Cart: :CaddyTek: CaddyLite One Swivel V8

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definitely interested to see best balls for different swing speed groups too...(hate soft golf balls and always avoid them whenever I can know the compression )

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Driver: Cobra SZ 10.5- XCaliber Superlite 45S
Hybrids:  Cobra TWS 3,4- XCaliber FW S
Irons: Maltby TS2 5-G - true temper s300 105
Wedgesexotics 54,58 
Putter: Ben Hogan  Bettinardi BHB 12 Hawk

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Add in some popular mid range - non urethane - balls for comparison. Such as Srixon AD333, Soft Feel, and equivalents from Titleist,etc 

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Where in AZ?  Like to drop by say hello?

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<p>Driver:  Callaway Epic 9 deg, Graphite design shaft stiff</p><p>Fairway:  TM M1v17/p><p>Irons:  Mission Hot Milled regular, 5 thru sw, TM Putter:  face</p><p>Ball:  Titelist Pro V1 or chrome soft X

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I HAVE BEEN USING WS DUOSOFT FOR 3 YEARS. WORKS GREAT ON ALL SHOTS. WOULD NEVER PAY MORE $ FOR LESS BALL LIKE PRO V1

OR TP5.

ROD DICE

AVID GOLFER FOR 62 YEARS, 

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So excited for this test. There has been many new releases this year and can't wait to see how they all stack up to the industry leader... We all know who I am talking about.

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In my bag:

Driver: :cobra-small: Speedzone 10.5* lofted down to 9.0* Fujikura Atmos Black TS 6X

Wood: :cobra-small: Speedzone Tour Fujikura Atmos Black TS 7X

Hybrids: :cobra-small: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX

Irons: :cobra-small: MIM Tour Irons 4-PW Project X 6.5

Wedges: :cobra-small: MIM Black 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400

Putter: :seemore-small: Nashville Z1C 34"

 Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X 

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I'm really hoping for individual ball results. Two years ago, they saw some balls flying offline. So they started #FindItCutIt. Then Ball Lab. I think it should be brought back full circle and when a ball flies offline, you cut it and see what the issues were. I wouldn't want to extrapolate toooo far, but it wouldn't be unreasonable to have a ball that's flagged as "bad" for layer concentricity, for example, now have metrics as to how that "bad" label would affect performance. The next evolution of that would the be 1) float test 2) hit with robot with various orientations of the float test results 3) send to Ball Lab to note performance based on each orientation of the CoG and make overall claim on performance deviation based on cut ball results

Bonus points if Tony isn't allowed to see/know how offline a ball was when he took it back to Ball Lab. Double bonus points if the company logo is covered, though at this point, I'm confident Tony recognizes a ball by its layers (and not just the Taylormades...)

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Driver: :cobra-small: RADspeed 9* with Motore X F1 60S
4-wood: :callaway-small: Mavrik Subzero (16.5*) with Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI X
2i: :srixon-small: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff
Wet/Soft: 3i-PW
:wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged, KBS Tour-V 110S
Hard/Fast: 4i-7i :srixon-small: ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S

52*, 58* :cleveland-small: RTX ZipCore Modus3 Tour 115
Putter: :cleveland-small: HB Soft Premier 11s

Ball: :srixon-small: Z STAR/XV (but I'm not just going to leave a perfectly good ProV1 laying around...)
Bag: :ping-small: Hoofer (2018) in black/white/copper

Using :Arccos: to keep track of my shots
:SuperSpeed:

All clubs RH

Tested:
:wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged 3i-PW, KBS Tour-V 110S - Official Review
:titelist-small: Blind Ball Test (Ball #3 vs Ball #4) - Unofficial Review

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Wish we could see wind data, to test out dimple patterns. For example, does the Mizuno rb566v having 566 dimples actually do anything extra compared to the usual ~300 dimple pattern balls? Which current balls actually performance better in the wind with their dimple pattern?

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If I may chime in, I look for urethane balls in:

  1. dispersion
  2. spin 
  3. ball flight
  4. distance
  5. feel

From 2019, my #1 choice was B'stone B RX.  

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hopefully a robot is being used for consistency purposes......

 

 

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Golf is cool

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Which ball performs best with a massive hangover 😂

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:cobra-small: King F7+ UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 6F4 Shaft

:cobra-small: King F7 3W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft

:cobra-small: King F7 5W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft

:cobra-small: King F7 4 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft

:cobra-small: King F7 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts

:cobra-small: King PuR Wedges 50*,54*,58* UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts

:odyssey-small: Metal X Milled #7 with SuperStroke 3.0 grip

Arccos Generation 1 Sensors on all clubs

Snell MTB



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3 hours ago, Tsecor said:

hopefully a robot is being used for consistency purposes......

 

 

yes,  it will be like the last ball test;  they will be using a robot.

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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
               :titelist-small: 915H 24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :callaway-small: 54-10S   :cleveland-small: 588  58-12
Putter:  :seemore-small: mFGP2

Backups:  :bobby-grace-1: 6330, :taylormade-small:TM-180, :odyssey-small: Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787

 

Member:  MGS Hitsquad since 2017697979773_DSCN2368(Custom).JPG.a1a25f5e430d9eebae93c5d652cbd4b9.JPG

 

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Ball dispersion, distance, and spin numbers through various price levels.

Longest overall ball for scramble drives.

TaylorMade M6 10.5 (Sleeve @ 9.0) - PX HZRDUS Evenflow Black 75 (6.5) (Tipped 1in)

TaylorMade Sim2 Ti 3 Wood - PX HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 80 (6.5) (Tipped addl. .5in + .25in short)

TaylorMade Sim2 Rescue 4-22 (Sleeve @ 20.5) - PX HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX HY (6.5) (Tipped addl. .5in + .25in short)

Titleist 2014 AP2 4-PW - TT Dynamic Gold 400s

Vokey SM7 52* & 62*

Vokey SM6 58*

Wilson Buckingham Infinite Putter

Primary Ball: Snell MTB-X

Wilson Staff Tour Bag

BagBoy Nitron Push Cart

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If you want to watch the excitement, they are live on YouTube:


 

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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
               :titelist-small: 915H 24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :callaway-small: 54-10S   :cleveland-small: 588  58-12
Putter:  :seemore-small: mFGP2

Backups:  :bobby-grace-1: 6330, :taylormade-small:TM-180, :odyssey-small: Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787

 

Member:  MGS Hitsquad since 2017697979773_DSCN2368(Custom).JPG.a1a25f5e430d9eebae93c5d652cbd4b9.JPG

 

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1 hour ago, cnosil said:

If you want to watch the excitement, they are live on YouTube:


 

Thanks for throwing this link in!  I was just about to do that!

Interesting watching they've already had a Chrome Soft X go way left.   Also, Tony mentioned something that during the wedge test, they had issues with Trackman not picking up the TM balls unless they turned the logo around.  Curious how that affects other simulators.

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Driver: Taylormade SIM2
3 Wood: Taylormade SIM
3 Utility Iron: Srixon U85
4i – AW: Taylormade P760
SW: Vokey SM7 M Grind
LW: Cleveland RTX 4 X-Low
Putter: Ping Vault Oslo

 

 

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1 hour ago, goaliewales14 said:

Thanks for throwing this link in!  I was just about to do that!

Interesting watching they've already had a Chrome Soft X go way left.   Also, Tony mentioned something that during the wedge test, they had issues with Trackman not picking up the TM balls unless they turned the logo around.  Curious how that affects other simulators.

I’ve had the live stream on in the background all morning. This test is arguably the most intriguing thing going on the golf space so it’s crazy to me that the viewership is not higher. It would be interesting to know how many industry folks are tuned in.

As you alluded, staff commentary on flight characteristic outliers has been illuminating. Seem to be some pretty wonky results with Callaway and OnCore so far.

It easy to see why a test of this sort is so rare. Look at the resources being devoted - travel, dedicated hitting bay, launch monitors, a robot, a robot operator and (4) MGS staff putting in serious sweat equity. I think it’s fascinating. Considering the substantial resources invested in this round of testing and watching them sending someone out to check the wind when a ball is seriously off line, it seems like throwing a real time wind gauge out there would have been worthwhile.

It’s definitely tight quarters in the bay, I really hope that robot doesn’t tag anyone because I’ve seen several close calls already.

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:cobra-small:______S9-1 Pro D - Matrix Ozik XCON 6 S
:cobra-small:______S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S
:nickent-small:________3DX 17* - Matrix Ozik Altus Hybrid SG
:Hogan:______ICON Black 4-PW - KBS Tour V S
:cleveland-small:__________588 RTG 49  RTX 52.10  56.12 - DG S400
BobbyGrace.png.1dc40002fcec0eee8603b71b3e706e89.png______Amazing Grace NYC Tour CS
:taylormade-small:_______'19 TP5X
(the preceding have all been gamer approved)

"The most important shot in golf is the next one“ - Ben Hogan

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