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I started with a bit of testing off the putter to get a sense of feel and there is a distinct difference between the two balls. I don't want to say which is which as feel is subjective and I don't want to influence my fellow testers but the process is underway.

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Driver: :mizuno-small: Mizuno STZ 9.5°, Tensei 1K White (TX  Flex)

3 Wood: :taylormade-small:SIM 3 Wood 15°, Ventus Black 7S

3 Hybrid:  :mizuno-small:CLK 18°, Ventus Blue 8S

4i-AW:  :srixon-small:ZX7, Tour Issue Dynamic Gold 120's S400 (1.5° Upright, Std Length)

56°:  :vokey-small:SM8, Finish: The Best Finish (Slate Blue) Grind: S, Bounce: 10°, Shaft: Dynamic Gold S400 (1.5° Upright, Std Length)

60°: :vokey-small:SM8, Finish: The Best Finish (Slate Blue) Grind: M, Bounce: 8°, Shaft: Dynamic Gold S400 (1.5° Upright, Std Length)

Putter:  :EVNROLL: ER5 

Ball: :titelist-small: Pro V1

Official Member Review: Nippon Zelos 7 (Here)

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“Pakken din 965870565870 skal leveres av FedEx i dag. Vil du ikke ha flere SMS? Svar STOP”

That says mine will arrive today!  Can’t wait!

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i210, 10.5* M4 @ 44.5", X, TEE 18* ladies edition, two ball, Righty, North of North, Currently stuck in the 80s...

 

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I am returning from a way too long of “vacation” tomorrow.  I will catch up on work stuff by Friday.  Plan to take one of each to the short game area for some wedge and putting testing. Still waiting on the survey from Titleist, or any sort of instructions from them, but I figure those two are safe from donation if I only use them there.

 

Looking to get out for a round on Tuesday, where I will use those same two on a few full PW approaches against the AVX. 
 

Stay tuned.

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Weather here has been absolutely horrible. Got another inch of rain overnight. All I've been able to test with so far is putting indoors with the balls but hoping to get out Thursday/Friday for a little test 9.

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:cobra-small: RadSpeed 10.5, Motore X F1 60 X-Stiff

:taylormade-small: M6, Rocket 13.0, Atmos Red 60, Stiff

:taylormade-small: M6, 4H 22.0

:mizuno-small: JPX 900 Tour, 4-PW, True Temper Dynamic gold S300

:callaway-small: Mack Daddy 4, 52.0, 56.0, 60.0 - S grind

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:titelist-small: Pro-V1 X

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33 minutes ago, TCUFrog said:

Weather here has been absolutely horrible. Got another inch of rain overnight. All I've been able to test with so far is putting indoors with the balls but hoping to get out Thursday/Friday for a little test 9.

I am in the same boat as you! More rain and not good testing weather. Hopefully later in the week.

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Driver: :taylormade-small: SIM Max - 9*, Graphite Design Tour AD DI6 Stiff
3 Wood: :taylormade-small: SIM - 15*, Diamana 75 Limited Stiff
Hybrid: :titelist-small: TS3 - 19*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff
Irons: :titelist-small:  7 - PW T100S, 4 -6 T200 all with Nippon NS Pro 880 AMC Chrome Stiff
Wedges:  :titelist-small:Vokey SM 7 - 50*, 56*, 60*  Standard Wedge Shafts                                                                                                                                   

Putter:  :scotty-cameron-1: Phantom X 5.5           
Putter:  :scotty-cameron-1: Studio Select Newport 1.5
Ball: :titelist-small: Pro V1 X

 

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On 7/12/2021 at 4:41 PM, Larryw said:

Just a guess but the code stamps are probably manufacturing quality control codes to identify different molds and/or manufacturing fixtures and not specific to the design of the balls. We always used QC markings for identity purposes.

Larry, you got that exactly right.  I found out from another thread that the two letters stamped in adjacent dimples are in fact mold codes used for QC purposes.

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I'm decidedly brand agnostic -- but a bit less so with my recent change from a PING driver

:titelist-small: - TSi2 10.5 Driver - Tensei AV Raw Blue 55 R

:titelist-small: - TS2 4W - Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6 RS TS2 7W - Alta CB 65 R

:cobra-small:- Baffler 23* - Aldila NV-HL 65 R

th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg - Original Series 0211 - 5-PW - MMT 80 S

:cleveland-small: - CBX2 50 / 54 / 58 - Rotex

image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png - Directed Force 2.1 (Nickel) - KBS Tour - Press No. II 3*

:Snell:- MTB  Black

datrek-brand_1456761019__86876.original.jpg.7c24f9ae71c7730ce29a828226731487.jpg - DG Lite II cart bag attached via Top-Lok to image.png.77fe07cbfea697deca64bd4a4263a151.png - Quad XL and Tracked by :ShotScope: - V3

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Except for one of the number 3 balls, all of the others had small paint bubble imperfections in certain spots (some of them in several spots).  The #3 balls had a small  C and Z stamped in adjacent dimples, and the #4 balls had Y and P stamped in them (as I subsequently found out these are mold codes). 

I'm getting a little bit more of a "click" off the putter with the #3's, as that is the only thing I've tested so far.

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I'm decidedly brand agnostic -- but a bit less so with my recent change from a PING driver

:titelist-small: - TSi2 10.5 Driver - Tensei AV Raw Blue 55 R

:titelist-small: - TS2 4W - Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6 RS TS2 7W - Alta CB 65 R

:cobra-small:- Baffler 23* - Aldila NV-HL 65 R

th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg - Original Series 0211 - 5-PW - MMT 80 S

:cleveland-small: - CBX2 50 / 54 / 58 - Rotex

image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png - Directed Force 2.1 (Nickel) - KBS Tour - Press No. II 3*

:Snell:- MTB  Black

datrek-brand_1456761019__86876.original.jpg.7c24f9ae71c7730ce29a828226731487.jpg - DG Lite II cart bag attached via Top-Lok to image.png.77fe07cbfea697deca64bd4a4263a151.png - Quad XL and Tracked by :ShotScope: - V3

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A course near me has a huge learning center with short game area and 2 full length practice holes. I will be taking the golf balls to the practice facility this Saturday to put them through their paces. I will also be doing all of my comparisons to my gamer ball the Bridgestone Tour BX. The reason being is that it is not a Titleist ball so I won't be influenced trying to compare it something I think the balls being tested are. I also know what to expect from the Tour BX which makes it great for a control ball.

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Driver: :mizuno-small: Mizuno STZ 9.5°, Tensei 1K White (TX  Flex)

3 Wood: :taylormade-small:SIM 3 Wood 15°, Ventus Black 7S

3 Hybrid:  :mizuno-small:CLK 18°, Ventus Blue 8S

4i-AW:  :srixon-small:ZX7, Tour Issue Dynamic Gold 120's S400 (1.5° Upright, Std Length)

56°:  :vokey-small:SM8, Finish: The Best Finish (Slate Blue) Grind: S, Bounce: 10°, Shaft: Dynamic Gold S400 (1.5° Upright, Std Length)

60°: :vokey-small:SM8, Finish: The Best Finish (Slate Blue) Grind: M, Bounce: 8°, Shaft: Dynamic Gold S400 (1.5° Upright, Std Length)

Putter:  :EVNROLL: ER5 

Ball: :titelist-small: Pro V1

Official Member Review: Nippon Zelos 7 (Here)

Follow My Super Speed Training Progress Below 103mph-112mph and Gaining

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KpCSY2sLk97yCmUyoW-aVzLLs_k4CuPR5708OrVw5gA/edit?usp=sharing

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1 hour ago, ZMendle10 said:

A course near me has a huge learning center with short game area and 2 full length practice holes. I will be taking the golf balls to the practice facility this Saturday to put them through their paces. I will also be doing all of my comparisons to my gamer ball the Bridgestone Tour BX. The reason being is that it is not a Titleist ball so I won't be influenced trying to compare it something I think the balls being tested are. I also know what to expect from the Tour BX which makes it great for a control ball.

That sounds like a great place to test things out! Wow that’s a practice area if I ever heard of one!!!!

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Initial thoughts: 

#3 has bigger and therefore less dimples than #4

They feel very similar off the putter indoors on Exputt, will need to try and hit some long putts outdoors to confirm but it feels like #3 might be softer. But I was back and forth on feel over the course of my first session. 

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My 9 Hole Quick Review - 7/21/21:

1. The #3 ball is softer, it feels really good off the club face. It seems to be a little bit longer than #4 and stops quickly on the green. In my opinion, it is similar to the Pro V1.  

2. The #4 ball is firmer, but not a hard ball. It is close in distance to the #4 and stops really good too, maybe rolls out 4-6 inches past the pitch mark. It is similar to the AVX in my opinion.

They putt similar, but the #3 has a softer feel, which I really like. I didn't have time to practice enough chipping to give an opinion. Trying to beat the thundershower and darkness.

More to come...

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Driver: :taylormade-small: SIM Max - 9*, Graphite Design Tour AD DI6 Stiff
3 Wood: :taylormade-small: SIM - 15*, Diamana 75 Limited Stiff
Hybrid: :titelist-small: TS3 - 19*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff
Irons: :titelist-small:  7 - PW T100S, 4 -6 T200 all with Nippon NS Pro 880 AMC Chrome Stiff
Wedges:  :titelist-small:Vokey SM 7 - 50*, 56*, 60*  Standard Wedge Shafts                                                                                                                                   

Putter:  :scotty-cameron-1: Phantom X 5.5           
Putter:  :scotty-cameron-1: Studio Select Newport 1.5
Ball: :titelist-small: Pro V1 X

 

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Nice to see you guys are getting after it!

I did a quick epsom salt test for COG, and all of the balls were well balanced. I marked the high points out of the water and gave them all a spin 3 times, and never did the same point return, so that's speaks to the quality of the core albeit in a small sample size.

Like Tom, I noticed that all but 1 3 ball and 1 4 ball had at least one paint bubble on them. Maybe some slight issues with the mold or painting process, but not going to read too much into it considering these are not production quality retail balls yet.

First outing was to the putting green. I must say that I did squeeze each ball in my fingers and I feel like the 3 compresses easier. At least the outer mantle is softer in my mind. I was hoping to verify on the green, but I must say they feel the same to me. Perhaps its my Evnroll putter that sort of feels dead. I love it, but its not the best feel putter. Might be a good thing as I'm not picky yet. Will back up and chip and pitch this weekend and get more feedback where it really counts for me. 

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  • Woods::cobra-small: F6 Baffler AD DI 8S
  • Hybrid: :callaway-small: Apex 20 AD DI 85s
  • Irons: :srixon-small: Z585 5-6, Z785 7-PW, Modus 120x
  • Wedges: :cleveland-small: RTX4 50, Modus 120x:taylormade-small:, Hi Toe 56 & 60, Modus 120x
  • Putter: :EVNROLL:  ER3 @ 33"
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Outdoor putting:

3 is confirmed softer than 4... Both are notably softer than a Pro V1X. The differences between the test balls and a Pro V1 or Tour Speed are much harder to notice on the putting green with an EVNROLL. 

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Well, my worst shot of the day meant the watery demise of one of my #3 balls this morning at the par 3 course I played early.

Hit them both pretty well over all, and not finding too much difference performance-wise on the short course anyway.  Still haven't hit them with woods (or into the woods😆) yet.

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I'm decidedly brand agnostic -- but a bit less so with my recent change from a PING driver

:titelist-small: - TSi2 10.5 Driver - Tensei AV Raw Blue 55 R

:titelist-small: - TS2 4W - Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6 RS TS2 7W - Alta CB 65 R

:cobra-small:- Baffler 23* - Aldila NV-HL 65 R

th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg - Original Series 0211 - 5-PW - MMT 80 S

:cleveland-small: - CBX2 50 / 54 / 58 - Rotex

image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png - Directed Force 2.1 (Nickel) - KBS Tour - Press No. II 3*

:Snell:- MTB  Black

datrek-brand_1456761019__86876.original.jpg.7c24f9ae71c7730ce29a828226731487.jpg - DG Lite II cart bag attached via Top-Lok to image.png.77fe07cbfea697deca64bd4a4263a151.png - Quad XL and Tracked by :ShotScope: - V3

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I opted not to put them in play during my Sunday morning money game, but I did chip, pitch, and putt with them before the round. Overall in these three areas, #3 was softer/thuddier for me. Off the putter, nothing in it. Basically the same ball (which is a positive in my book). Chipping and pitching started to show some differences with #3 having a bit more hop-and-stop while #4 was check-and-run. I had a 58 degree and hit shots as close as the fringe and as far back as 30 yards, including some greenside bunker shots. I found I could really pinch the #3 and hit a low, spinny shot that would take one hop and stop while the #4 would take the same hop and then trundle out a few feet (with comparable strike quality). Didn't really notice flight differences, though I wouldn't expect to one these kinds of shots. Both balls felt great; #3 a little softer than #4, but I thought both felt very middle-of-the-Tour-ball-road in firmness, probably clocking in close to 90 compression if I were guessing?

I did manage to scuff one of the #4 balls, so I'm only going to use it on full shots if I lose the other two. Which is to say, by the third hole, it'll probably be in play.

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3-wood: :taylormade-small: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S
5-wood: :cobra-small: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S
2i: :srixon-small: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff
Wet/Soft: 3i-PW
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Hard/Fast: 4i-7i :srixon-small: ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S

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Putter: :cleveland-small: HB Soft Premier 11s

Ball: I'll try anything with a urethane cover
Bag: :ping-small: Hoofer (2018) in black/white/copper

Using :ShotScope: to keep track of my shots
:SuperSpeed:

All clubs RH

Tested:
:wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged 3i-PW, KBS Tour-V 110S - Official Review
:titelist-small: Blind Ball Test (Ball #3 vs Ball #4) - Unofficial Review
:ShotScope:
 V3 GPS Watch + Tags - Official Review

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Got out this morning for a pre-work, dewsweeper 9 and decided to put them into play starting on the 4th hole. Somehow I didn't lose any... 🙂

Hole 4:
#3 ball - 306 yards (calm down, it's downhill) through the fairway; 9 iron hit just short of the pin and ripped back several feet. Very soft feel, mid-flight.
#4 ball - 302 yards, in the fairway; 9 iron hit pin high and hopped back about 18 in.

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Hole 5:
#3 ball - 285 fairway, PW pin high just off green
#4 ball - 265 pulled into left rough, moved ball up to #3 ball and hit PW pin high on green

Hole 6:
#3 ball - 4 iron hit thin right, appx 185 yards (210 to hole)
#4 ball - 4 iron hit flush, but about 8 yards short of what I would expect with no roll-out; starting to think this #4 ball has way too much long game spin for me to game it
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Hole 7:
#3 ball - heely pull-cut driver ~282 yards
#4 ball - very, very solid strike 283 yards
this was the most eye-opening for me. Off the face, I expected the #4 ball to be ~20 yards longer than #3. As you can see, if a golf ball can be classified as "forgiving," the #3 ball is deserving of this moniker. The rest of the hole was pretty comparable. #3 flies lower and spins more on short irons, #4 flies higher and spins less on short irons

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Hole 8:
#3 ball - 285, solid but pulled into left rough; floaty 7i into the green, small hop and rolled out (wet rough isn't conducive for spin I suppose...)
#4 ball - 245 (not a typo), slightly low-heel in the fairway. Was going to take a picture but couldn't even see the #3 ball from where this one ended up. Picked it up and played it from where the #3 ball ended up. Solid 7i that stopped about a foot after the pitch mark on the green.

Hole 9:
#3 ball - 290 yards down the middle, 4w center of the green, but missed into right greenside bunker
#4 ball - 258 yards in right rough (not as dead center on the strike, but certainly wasn't a poor strike); pulled up to where the #3 ball ended up and hit a very curvy 4w into center of green that stopped about 7 yards after ball mark. Really gathering a lot of evidence that these #4 balls are VERY spinny in the long game. Definitely does not fit my game, despite enjoying watching a high hard draw 4w into this green.

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SUMMARY
#3 is a bomber. This plays like a tour ball. Very soft feel, mid/low flight and low spin on long game with mid flight and high spin on short game. Reminds me a lot of the TP5. Obviously I have no idea of the price point, but anything under $45-50 and I'd game this ball.
#4... well... I don't know who would game this ball. Very high spin in the long game and mid/low spin in the short game. High launch on all clubs. Your suggestions for who benefits from this profile are welcome, because I can't think of any player at my club that I would recommend this to.

I should be able to get on a Quad later this week to get some data to go with my on-course assessment, which will be very interesting to see. Additionally, I'll probably game the #3 in my Thursday night league (insert Club Pro Guy reference here), especially since it won't be dew-y, but I don't think I'll play the #4 in any scenario where I care about performance. The testing continues!

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3-wood: :taylormade-small: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S
5-wood: :cobra-small: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S
2i: :srixon-small: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff
Wet/Soft: 3i-PW
:wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged, KBS Tour-V 110S
Hard/Fast: 4i-7i :srixon-small: ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S

52*, 58* :cleveland-small: RTX ZipCore Modus3 Tour 115
Putter: :cleveland-small: HB Soft Premier 11s

Ball: I'll try anything with a urethane cover
Bag: :ping-small: Hoofer (2018) in black/white/copper

Using :ShotScope: to keep track of my shots
:SuperSpeed:

All clubs RH

Tested:
:wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged 3i-PW, KBS Tour-V 110S - Official Review
:titelist-small: Blind Ball Test (Ball #3 vs Ball #4) - Unofficial Review
:ShotScope:
 V3 GPS Watch + Tags - Official Review

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I played a round today, but before the round I did a lot of putting and pitches with both numbered balls.  3 sounds softer off the 2-ball putter I have with me, 4 sounds a little clicky. They both putt nice and if I just use one version or the other I'm "used to it" after a very short period of time.  I found 3 to stop quicker and 4 to release a bit with a 56* wedge.  In play, 3 has the same certain something that I really like about the ProV1X.  All golf balls fly high for me this year and these are no exception.  I did hit a pretty nice bomb 296 yards (Arccos user here) with the number 4, but it was partially aided by hitting over a fairway bunker with some downhill after it.  I also hit the 3 ball uphill 284 so I think it's longer for me.  On 17 I again hit the 4.  It's a downhill shot that should have went a lot further than it did - seemed to balloon quite a bit and... didn't fly a pond it should have.

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Just got back from my local Edwin Watts. They recently installed a new GC Quad launch monitor so was able to get really solid numbers for my 8 iron test. Summary of results below:

Titleist 3 (Green Results):

  • Launch higher on average
  • Ball Speed slightly lower
  • Carry Average: 156 yards

Titleist 4 (White Results):

  • Tighter Dispersion
  • Higher Spin
  • Carry Average: 159

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:taylormade-small: M6, 4H 22.0

:mizuno-small: JPX 900 Tour, 4-PW, True Temper Dynamic gold S300

:callaway-small: Mack Daddy 4, 52.0, 56.0, 60.0 - S grind

:taylormade-small: Spider Mini

:titelist-small: Pro-V1 X

:Arccos: Smart Sensors

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