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This looks extremely interesting and could possibly be the bridge between a PLM and a low end simulator....

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Is designed to work with E6 connect along with providing the basic data most golfers would expect want...

 

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If it can do all of this in a reasonably accurate package, that would be excellent. Definitely would like to see MGS compare this to Mevo+ or Skytrak. 

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29 minutes ago, vandyland said:

......If it can do all of this in a reasonably accurate package, that would be excellent. Definitely would like to see MGS compare this to Mevo+ or Skytrak. 

Let me be the first to raise my hand to be a tester!!!   👋

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32 minutes ago, Shapotomous said:

Let me be the first to raise my hand to be a tester!!!   👋

second! haha 

looks like a good product, I've always liked Garmin for GPS and stuff, don't see why this shouldn't be a quality offering too.

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This is my nightmare, I just bought a Mevo+ and this comes out at a cheaper price point with potentialy more metrics.  Will be interested to see what is calculated vs measured and how it compares accuracy wise.  I've seen some posts suggesting the Mevo+ also measures club path and face angle since they measure spin loft, but they don't want it to be a substitute for their more expensive launch monitors, so they bury it deep in the code/software.  I wonder if something like thise would prompt Flightscope to unlock some additional metrics if Mevo+ does actually measure them.

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Absolutely need to see some in depth testing and comparisons to Skytrak and Mevo+.  Moving into the new house in 3 days, and the wife has promised me space for a golf simulator/studio in the sunroom (blinds darken it pretty well and it has sloping 12 to 16 foot ceiling).  Was about to order Skytrak......I wonder if I should wait.

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I have an preorder placed.  Supposed to ship in about 4 weeks. 
 

If this thing does what they say it does at this price, I better get my Rapsodo listed for sale soon 😬

 

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On 7/9/2021 at 1:21 PM, bacchus said:

This is my nightmare, I just bought a Mevo+ and this comes out at a cheaper price point with potentialy more metrics.  Will be interested to see what is calculated vs measured and how it compares accuracy wise.  I've seen some posts suggesting the Mevo+ also measures club path and face angle since they measure spin loft, but they don't want it to be a substitute for their more expensive launch monitors, so they bury it deep in the code/software.  I wonder if something like thise would prompt Flightscope to unlock some additional metrics if Mevo+ does actually measure them.

Spin & Face angle are calculated but for the money, it'll be the only device measuring both ball & club laterally which is very exciting if it's accurate.
I'm getting one anyway but fascinated to see someone put it up against a Trackman or Quad to compare accuracy.
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On 7/10/2021 at 7:18 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I have an preorder placed.  Supposed to ship in about 4 weeks. 
 

If this thing does what they say it does at this price, I better get my Rapsodo listed for sale soon 😬

 

I think we found the location for the MGS Labor Day party!!  🤣🤣   I mean...he IS going to need help testing it....right?!?!?!  🤫

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I cant wait to see the feedback on these. My SC300 is crap, 🤣

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4 hours ago, Tyler86 said:

I cant wait to see the feedback on these. My SC300 is crap, 🤣

My PreOrdes says it should be in early to mid august.  I'm secretly hoping for sooner, but anxious none the less and will certainly share some immediate feedback here. 

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On 7/10/2021 at 6:18 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I have an preorder placed.  Supposed to ship in about 4 weeks. 
 

If this thing does what they say it does at this price, I better get my Rapsodo listed for sale soon 😬

 

Did you preorder from playbetter.com? Now they are saying orders will ship in September. I found it on amazon for preorder through a local vendor here in SoCal but they had to cancel because of the long ship date. They did offer me a 10% discount for my troubles though so worth the wait for me! I already sold my Mevo to make room!

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19 hours ago, golfish! said:

Did you preorder from playbetter.com? Now they are saying orders will ship in September. I found it on amazon for preorder through a local vendor here in SoCal but they had to cancel because of the long ship date. They did offer me a 10% discount for my troubles though so worth the wait for me! I already sold my Mevo to make room!

Yep, through them.  I got an email today that said a small shipment will be in the next few days that the very first orders will be filled out of, then another one in a few weeks, which I took to mean late August could be September.   I ordered the first day they had them available, so I'm hoping there's a chance I'm in the first group.   But either way, looking forward to it.

 

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39 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Yep, through them.  I got an email today that said a small shipment will be in the next few days that the very first orders will be filled out of, then another one in a few weeks, which I took to mean late August could be September.   I ordered the first day they had them available, so I'm hoping there's a chance I'm in the first group.   But either way, looking forward to it.

 

Nice! Unfortunately my vendor said I would have to wait until mid-August as these are being drop shipped directly from Garmin. Hopefully I get one in the first group of orders through them. Excited for your first impressions as the only one who seems to have one is that one youtuber. 

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On 7/7/2021 at 2:55 PM, vandyland said:

This looks extremely interesting and could possibly be the bridge between a PLM and a low end simulator....

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Is designed to work with E6 connect along with providing the basic data most golfers would expect want...

 

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If it can do all of this in a reasonably accurate package, that would be excellent. Definitely would like to see MGS compare this to Mevo+ or Skytrak. 

See, I’m the opposite. I don’t care if it’s more accurate to already inaccurate monitors, I want it compared to GC Quad and TrackMan. For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone wants a LM that is “close” to their swing numbers and distances. When they go to the course, what good did it do???

Yes, MGS test it, but against TM and GC Quad.

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57 minutes ago, PMookie said:

See, I’m the opposite. I don’t care if it’s more accurate to already inaccurate monitors, I want it compared to GC Quad and TrackMan. For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone wants a LM that is “close” to their swing numbers and distances. When they go to the course, what good did it do???

Yes, MGS test it, but against TM and GC Quad.

I think for the intended audience (like me and a lot of us on this forum) it is about getting to own something that gives you numbers that you can use to trend your performance and track improvements. I will probably never own a GC quad or a Trackman but I can deal with +/- 5% with a device that is a fraction of the price. I know I don't speak for everyone here but my game is not consistent enough that I always hit my clubs within that margin of error. I hit 220 yard drives and then I hit 300 yard drives in the right conditions. If the LM tells me that I am averaging 240 carry off the tee like my Mevo did then I know I am in the right range. My Mevo gave me pretty close numbers to my carry distances for my irons as well. The CHS for an 8I was compared to a Trackman and it was within an acceptable range (HS player on the range had one and I had her hit her 8I on my Mevo and asked if the numbers she was getting on her Trackman were similar to the Mevo and she said they were). Now with the Bushnell Launch Pro coming to market in the Fall, it would be interesting to see what their price point is and what market they are trying to appeal to. 

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1 hour ago, PMookie said:

See, I’m the opposite. I don’t care if it’s more accurate to already inaccurate monitors, I want it compared to GC Quad and TrackMan. For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone wants a LM that is “close” to their swing numbers and distances. When they go to the course, what good did it do???

Yes, MGS test it, but against TM and GC Quad.

2, 3 or even 4 sides to this coin. If it is within a couple of yards it wouldn't affect anything on the course in the long run. However if it is showing that I am in to out 4* and its really 6* that would pose a problem. Really it is about the consistency of the data and calculations. All that said the way my mind works the only time I can ever have faith in something is if it is 100% correct. I have a skytrack and it helps but I don't put a lot of stock into the numbers it puts out at times. 

5 minutes ago, golfish! said:

 Now with the Bushnell Launch Pro coming to market in the Fall, it would be interesting to see what their price point is and what market they are trying to appeal to. 

Interesting that this one is going to be "powered by Foresight" wonder if this means they are entering the PLM market or just lending their name. 

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3 hours ago, golfish! said:

Nice! Unfortunately my vendor said I would have to wait until mid-August as these are being drop shipped directly from Garmin. Hopefully I get one in the first group of orders through them. Excited for your first impressions as the only one who seems to have one is that one youtuber. 

Yeah, very strange how he of all people ended up getting his hands on one.   He seems like a nice enough guy, just hope his review is being fair and honest about the good and bad. 

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21 minutes ago, golfish! said:

Now with the Bushnell Launch Pro coming to market in the Fall, it would be interesting to see what their price point is and what market they are trying to appeal to. 

Damn!  I had not heard about this.  We have a Bushnell account too at the course. 

I have a sorry feeling this is going to be the scene in my office when more info on it is available. 

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17 hours ago, PMookie said:

For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone wants a LM that is “close” to their swing numbers and distances. When they go to the course, what good did it do???

It would be fun to play simulated courses (obviously this is not golf but not a video game either, somewhere in the middle) and might get me swinging a club a bit more often. To me it is much more fun than just hitting into a net but obviously not as helpful as hitting out onto a range with a Trackman. However, it seems like, anecdotally, the few people I know that have LMs don't really find themselves dramatically improving. There is just something to playing golf which makes you better in a way that playing golf swing doesn't. Especially if you are trying to move from like a 3HDCP to a scratch. 

If you know that the launch monitor is about 3% off (I have no idea if that is the variance, just for sake of argument) that's like 5 yards on a 7 iron carry and 6.5 yards on a hybrid. Now, for precise gapping that isn't perfect but if the LM is accurate at ball flight and start line, that is useful. So if a flushed 7 iron could go say 160 or 170 (5 yards either way) that's okay as long as I can trust that a hooked shot on the monitor is actually a hooked shot in reality and that it can pick up a block, etc. I can feel when I hit it out on the toe or heel (or could use footspray) but I can't always feel when I blocked or pulled it. Or if my path is getting too much one way or the other. 

For gapping, I think the ideal thing is to be able to get on a Trackman or GCQuad every few months and maybe bring your LM along to see the differences. You'll have accurate data from the Trackman that you can base averages off of and also track your variance level with your less accurate LM. I'm still not sold on getting one but if it can tell me where I am hitting the ball and the flight path, that's quite useful to me...especially in the winter or if I am working on something with my coach (I'm always working on something). As someone who actually likes to practice BUT has 2 kids under 3, my wife is not letting me go to the range twice a week. If I had something decent in the garage that I could use after my nightly chores, that is compelling. 

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