revkev Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I’m sure many are aware that Colin Morikawa made some equipment changes for the Open. I actually think that this is a time where there’s something to learn for us. Because the turf was so fast and firm he went with short irons that had less bounce than normal and likewise he had an extremely low bounce 60 in the bag. I’ve often tailored my bag to the course or conditions that I normally play. At times I’ve even had a club or two that might switch in or out. Included in that scenario were wedges with more or less bounce. How about you, have you done this and if so why? Shapotomous, HardcoreLooper, edingc and 2 others 5 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 My wedge setup is based on being able to play in multiple conditions but from the fairway as well as bunkers. I haven’t seen any issues in iron play between various geographical regions and in wet or hard conditions I used to swap a wood for a driving iron when playing courses that had shorter par 4s or the layout of them had the longer shot a more riskier one. Haven’t done that in a while Shapotomous, edingc and revkev 3 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 He also changed the weight of his putter because the greens were slower HardcoreLooper and Shapotomous 2 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, revkev said: He also changed the weight of his putter because the greens were slower And his grip! Used two different grips. The Saw for short putts and conventional grip for longer putts…over 20 feet! heard a great interview with his caddie JJ this week about all the changes. Said if only took him 30 swings with the irons to feel confident in them. Pretty Amazing revkev, HardcoreLooper and Shapotomous 3 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: And his grip! Used two different grips. The Saw for short putts and conventional grip for longer putts…over 20 feet! heard a great interview with his caddie JJ this week about all the changes. Said if only took him 30 swings with the irons to feel confident in them. Pretty Amazing I think this is one of the instances where we could learn from a touring pro. I’m not suggesting that we have two sets of irons with differing counted soles and switch them out because it hasn’t rained in a week. I do think though we should carefully consider the type of conditions that we normally play in, the kind of shots that we regularly play or would like to play and then find equipment suited to our swing types in those course conditions. cnosil, Shapotomous and BMart519 3 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapotomous Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I've done a few of these things short of changing my irons which is really interesting he took that step. I used to putt cross handed on under 10' and regular overlap on over 10'. I did this for many years. After some changes last year I am double overlap on all putts. I may try this again in the future. I have added layers of lead tape on my putter when normally playing courses with slower greens. This year using the Fetch, its a heavier putter so no lead tape, but I always use a lighter putter when practicing in the back yard because my fake turf is so much faster than the course. I have swapped out hybrid / 3i on occasion because of windy conditions. I can't flight a hybrid low so sometimes I need the 3i. Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, revkev said: I think this is one of the instances where we could learn from a touring pro. I’m not suggesting that we have two sets of irons with differing counted soles and switch them out because it hasn’t rained in a week. I do think though we should carefully consider the type of conditions that we normally play in, the kind of shots that we regularly play or would like to play and then find equipment suited to our swing types in those course conditions. I believe I have all conditions covered revkev, HardcoreLooper and Rickp 1 2 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 18 hours ago, revkev said: I’m sure many are aware that Colin Morikawa made some equipment changes for the Open. I actually think that this is a time where there’s something to learn for us. Because the turf was so fast and firm he went with short irons that had less bounce than normal and likewise he had an extremely low bounce 60 in the bag. I’ve often tailored my bag to the course or conditions that I normally play. At times I’ve even had a club or two that might switch in or out. Included in that scenario were wedges with more or less bounce. How about you, have you done this and if so why? Have to agree, when I lived in CT my wedges were high bounce after moving to FL I’ve switched out all wedges to as low a bounce as I can get. revkev 1 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I have 8 or 9 wedges between 48 degrees and 64 degrees. They have varying bounce angles and sole widths. Over the course of a year, the courses I play will vary from very hard and fast to very soft. Sometimes the rough is thick, sometimes it’s non- existent. I don’t consider myself a great wedge player but picking wedges based on conditions does save me strokes. Golfspy_CG2 and revkev 2 Quote 14 of the following: Ping G430 Max 10.5 degree Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Mizuno 923 JPX HM HL 6-GW Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttnfool Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 12:24 PM, revkev said: I’m sure many are aware that Colin Morikawa made some equipment changes for the Open. I actually think that this is a time where there’s something to learn for us. Because the turf was so fast and firm he went with short irons that had less bounce than normal and likewise he had an extremely low bounce 60 in the bag. I’ve often tailored my bag to the course or conditions that I normally play. At times I’ve even had a club or two that might switch in or out. Included in that scenario were wedges with more or less bounce. How about you, have you done this and if so why? I do have two lob wedges. They're both RTX4 58° wedges. One has 9° bounce and the other has 3°. I love the 3° bounce in most conditions, but when it's really wet, the 9° is far better. Rickp, revkev and Golfspy_CG2 3 Quote WITB: Taylormade SIM2 Max 9° w/ UST ProForce V2 5F3 @ 45" Callaway Epic Speed 4wd w/ AccuFLEX Evolution Reg Dynacraft Genesis 3 hybrid w/ Steelfiber i95r Srixon ZX5 4-6 and ZX7 7-GW w/ UST Recoil 95 F4 soft stepped once Cleveland RTX Zipcore 54/10 w/ Recoil 95 F4 shaft Cleveland RTX-4 58/03 w/ Recoil 95 F4 9i shaft Odyssey SL EXO Marxman Pondering: Nothing at the moment In the locker: Too much to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, seeking70's said: I do have two lob wedges. They're both RTX4 58° wedges. One has 9° bounce and the other has 3°. I love the 3° bounce in most conditions, but when it's really wet, the 9° is far better. Definitely interesting and makes sense puttnfool 1 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreLooper Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Here in central VA, we have three different conditions: Wet Really wet Raining My 50 and 58 have fairly low bounce, and they're not much good for short shots unless it's unusually dry. My next set of wedges will likely have more bounce, especially the 58. In high school, I used to have an old Ping Anser that was ridiculously light, and I'd use that on really fast greens. My normal gamer was a Ping B61 with some lead tape to get the weight up. Golfspy_CG2 1 Quote What's in the bag: Driver - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Wood (13.5*) - 980F 4 Wood (18*) - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Hybrid (19*) - RBZ 4i - PW - D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S ) 52* - CBX 58* - CBX Full Face 2 Putter - Craz-e Bag - 2.5 (Blue) Ball - AVX Instagram - @hardcorelooper Twitter - @meovino Facebook - mike.eovino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 My clubs are what seem to work for me so I guess they were selected to match the conditions I normally play. I don't swap clubs out based on conditions. edingc and hrfdez 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 8:05 AM, Golfspy_CG2 said: I believe I have all conditions covered The Korn Ferry guy we played with on Sunday looked at my one friends driver, some sort of Nike because his M4 broke and he’s waiting for the Sub 70 to come out, and said - grab a bottle of scotch and come to my place after the round, I have a driver for you. The pro has a swing speed north of 120 and ball speeds in the 180’, we just laughed. Got to his house and the garage was full of drivers - more than you’d find at a Dick’s. He collects them - he handed him 2 M4’s one with what he called a strong R and the other with a stock S shaft of some type. I thought we had arrived at your place Cg2. Rickp, puttnfool, vandyland and 2 others 2 3 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Sounds like a good guy to know! Quote STZ 230 9.5* PinHawk SLF 16* STZ 230 Hybrid 21.25* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* Glide 4.0 (S) 58* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 Maxfli Tour X Official Review -- https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63068-testers-announced-maxfli-tour-x-golf-balls-with-max-align-technology/?do=findComment&comment=1021832 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Lee Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Personally I have a 3 iron and a 5 wood that i swap based off of the course and the conditions. If we're playing about 7,100+ yards I won't usually be hitting any 3 irons off the tee unless it's a really firm course so I'll use 5 wood. Anything less than that and I'm usually hitting 3 irons off the tee 2-3 times a round. Or if it's windy I'll go 3 iron. I have a high bounce 60 degree that I pretty much never use Quote Driver: Titleist TS3 3 Wood: Taylormade M3 5 Wood: Titleist 917 F2 3 Iron: Callaway X Forged Utility Iron 4i-Pw: Honma TW747v 49/54/60 Wedges: Titleist SM7 Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab V-Line Ball: Bridgestone B X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 4:22 AM, revkev said: I think this is one of the instances where we could learn from a touring pro. I’m not suggesting that we have two sets of irons with differing counted soles and switch them out because it hasn’t rained in a week. I do think though we should carefully consider the type of conditions that we normally play in, the kind of shots that we regularly play or would like to play and then find equipment suited to our swing types in those course conditions. Another great thing to learn is that the best iron player on the planet doesn’t use blades. Neither should you. revkev and cnosil 1 1 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 15 hours ago, BMart519 said: Another great thing to learn is that the best iron player on the planet doesn’t use blades. Neither should you. No argument there from me but that's a different topic. Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas King Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I think his changes are notable but they it isn't realistic or even possible to change out irons for the average golfer. I think changing to a lower bounce wedge for a course with tight lies can be done for average golfers. The other changes I see as possible is changing out between long irons, hybrids, and woods depending on the course and weather conditions. However, changing irons for a different bounce simply isn't possible for most golfers as you simply don't have those kinds of options even available at retail. You would have to have two sets of irons and find someone to grind one of the sets to a lower bounce. This is not an easy or inexpensive task. Let alone be able to hit an iron with a different sole grind well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, Kansas King said: I think his changes are notable but they it isn't realistic or even possible to change out irons for the average golfer. I think changing to a lower bounce wedge for a course with tight lies can be done for average golfers. The other changes I see as possible is changing out between long irons, hybrids, and woods depending on the course and weather conditions. However, changing irons for a different bounce simply isn't possible for most golfers as you simply don't have those kinds of options even available at retail. You would have to have two sets of irons and find someone to grind one of the sets to a lower bounce. This is not an easy or inexpensive task. Let alone be able to hit an iron with a different sole grind well. Why would someone have to find a place to grind the second set of irons? The avg golfer doesn’t need to have two sets from the same manufacturer just to have different bounce or if they did choose to go that route they could have different line from the same manufacturer? Or they could have a second set of the same irons with the loft adjusted that will change the bounce that way. Theres lots of ways to accomplish what morikawa did for the average golfer if they needed that. Kansas King 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott80109 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I have one 54 degree SW that has a lot of bounce and I play in all conditions. But I have two 60 wedges - a high bounce and a low bounce - that I’ll swap out in the spring when it’s really wet. Quote Driver: TS2 8.5* Project X EvenFlow T1100 White 65 (6.5) Woods: Turner H-2 3W, 5W, 7W Aldila NV 65 Stiff Irons: King F8 6i - PW Steelfiber i110 Stiff Wedges: RTX 3 50*, 54*, 60* Steelfiber i110 Stiff Putter: Futura 5W Bag: C-130 Cart bag Ball: MTB-X Rangefinder: NX7 Pro Tracker: ShotScope V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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