Arccos User Group

[DukeStKing 35]

On 7/30/2021 at 11:38 PM, ragtag2 said:

I now have 16 rounds posted using the Arccos system. I started using the system on my iPhone, but have recently been working on using my Apple Watch for shot detection with mixed results. Just this past week Arccos announced a number of improvements with the Arccos Caddie app on the watch and I am looking forward to seeing better results.

I do find the club distances extremely helpful, especially the distance range for each club. I feel the system has helped me start seeing more consistent results in my shots and scoring. 

I still have much to learn about all the information available and how to use it to my advantage. There is an abundance of data available, but I think you need to be careful that getting to deep into the data doesn't take the enjoyment out of the game.

I have only had my Arcoss for 3 rounds, but have had a lot of success using my Apple Watch (series 6) as the detection device- n fact, it sometimes registers practice swings. Just make sure your watch is fully charged- I also use the watch as the GPS and it drains the battery. 

[MaxEntropy 8,180]

Very weird - I thought I posted in this thread over the weekend. Who knows where it actually went....

Anyway, my Arccos experience has been mostly flawless since I started using it, but on Thursday, it detected zero shots on the first two holes. On the 3rd tee, I rebooted my phone, restarted Arccos, resumed round, and everything was fine for the rest of the day. On Friday, it mostly worked, but it did not detect a single shot with my 58* wedge.

Has anyone experienced similar? I've now had the sensors for almost two years. Am I approaching the expected useful life of these things?

[DukeStKing 35]

On 8/2/2021 at 9:53 AM, MaxEntropy said:

Very weird - I thought I posted in this thread over the weekend. Who knows where it actually went....

Anyway, my Arccos experience has been mostly flawless since I started using it, but on Thursday, it detected zero shots on the first two holes. On the 3rd tee, I rebooted my phone, restarted Arccos, resumed round, and everything was fine for the rest of the day. On Friday, it mostly worked, but it did not detect a single shot with my 58* wedge.

Has anyone experienced similar? I've now had the sensors for almost two years. Am I approaching the expected useful life of these things?

Yes. I was four rounds into my free trial and it worked flawlessly using my Apple Watch for shot detection. Fifth round on Sunday and I had the same exact problem- it didn’t detect a flop shot I hit on the first hole. I didn’t have to reboot- just add the shot. The rest of the round was fine. I think it was the fluffy lie and that the impact wasn’t loud. It was a pain to add the shot- I hope it doesn’t happen much moving forward because it becomes a distraction and I don’t think I would continue with the subscription once my free trial is over. 
 

Now that I’m 5 rounds in, I’ve unlocked the Caddie feature- I guess there are enough shots recorded. The data has been valuable - I had my AW adjusted from 50 to 49 degrees to have less of an overlap with my 53 degree wedge. It shows that my 7 and 8 irons are similar in distance, but I think that’s because I had a couple of anomalously long 8 iron shots (downhill tee shots). 

[ragtag2 28]

On 8/2/2021 at 9:53 AM, MaxEntropy said:

Very weird - I thought I posted in this thread over the weekend. Who knows where it actually went....

Anyway, my Arccos experience has been mostly flawless since I started using it, but on Thursday, it detected zero shots on the first two holes. On the 3rd tee, I rebooted my phone, restarted Arccos, resumed round, and everything was fine for the rest of the day. On Friday, it mostly worked, but it did not detect a single shot with my 58* wedge.

Has anyone experienced similar? I've now had the sensors for almost two years. Am I approaching the expected useful life of these things?

Have you tried running a diagnostic test on your 58* wedge? I had a problem with my putter and Arccos replaced the sensor and it seems to be OK now.

[MaxEntropy 8,180]

1 hour ago, ragtag2 said:

Have you tried running a diagnostic test on your 58* wedge? I had a problem with my putter and Arccos replaced the sensor and it seems to be OK now.

I did not run the diagnostics. After the round where it mysteriously would not track, it has been fine since.

[WaffleHouseTour 712]

6 hours ago, DukeStKing said:

Fifth round on Sunday and I had the same exact problem- it didn’t detect a flop shot I hit on the first hole. I didn’t have to reboot- just add the shot. The rest of the round was fine. I think it was the fluffy lie and that the impact wasn’t loud. It was a pain to add the shot

Good chance on a flop shot that you are sliding the club under the ball, and not making an impact on the club face triggering the sensor.  I've had that happen.   I get it can be an inconvenience to add shots - I typically have to add some putts over the course of a round.  But I haven't seen a better system. 

[WaffleHouseTour 712]

On 8/2/2021 at 8:53 AM, MaxEntropy said:

I've now had the sensors for almost two years. Am I approaching the expected useful life of these things?

The little batteries inside the sensors will eventually wear out like all batteries do.  I've had it happen.  I try to always keep mine in the dark, or make sure the club is upside down when not in use.  That keeps them in sleep mode.  They "wake up" when upright and in light. 

[WaffleHouseTour 712]

On 7/25/2021 at 8:01 AM, Watchnut33 said:

2. I’ve noticed Link tracked shots don’t always line up with the exact location on the course. For example, I show many putts that are not on the green, shots from the fairway that are shown as being off in the rough. I’m sure it’s just a slight mapping issue, but it can be mildly annoying. 

Have you emailed the "starter" at Arccos and asked them to remap the course, explaining where the errors are?  I've done this a few times.  I assume there has been some sort of automated machine learning that mapped all the courses and tried to delineate fairways from rough, and greens from the surrounds - but depending on the angle of the satellite could be a bit off - also - its possible your phone's gps is just a bit off too.  The real trick is to be standing someplace on the green, wait a bit to make sure everything has caught up, and see if it correctly marks your location.  Thats where I've taken a screenshot and sent to the starter with "I'm on/off the green by x paces, but arccos sees me y..."

[RDel90 221]

Jumping into the Arccos User Group here. I love the data but my caddie link misses too many shots. I have logged 14 rounds and over 1100 shots completed. Still find myself making sure all shots are correct on the phone while playing and I know this slows me down and annoys my playing partners. So at during 2 rounds last week, I decided not going to worry about Arccos and just play. Well, Arccos missed 33 and 34 shots in each of the rounds, respectively (those rounds deleted from app). It was sunny out not overcast. All sensor diagnostics are good. Caddie Link is clipped to my front pocket and shirt is tucked so not covering the link. No way I remember 30+ shots per round to update it after. Working with Arccos support now to try to determine if there is an issue with my caddie link. In diagnostic mode it sometimes initially detects the club but then a second later says no club detected. Support told me it is strange behavior and want me to use my phone in the pocket for shot detection next time I play to see if that is any better and identify caddie link as the issue (I hate playing with things in my pocket). It definitely takes away from just playing and enjoying the round when having to mess around with it so much. If the phone isn't any better at picking up shots, I'm really on the verge of trashing Arccos to be able to just focus on playing.  

[DukeStKing 35]

On 8/12/2021 at 6:56 AM, RDel90 said:

Jumping into the Arccos User Group here. I love the data but my caddie link misses too many shots. I have logged 14 rounds and over 1100 shots completed. Still find myself making sure all shots are correct on the phone while playing and I know this slows me down and annoys my playing partners. So at during 2 rounds last week, I decided not going to worry about Arccos and just play. Well, Arccos missed 33 and 34 shots in each of the rounds, respectively (those rounds deleted from app). It was sunny out not overcast. All sensor diagnostics are good. Caddie Link is clipped to my front pocket and shirt is tucked so not covering the link. No way I remember 30+ shots per round to update it after. Working with Arccos support now to try to determine if there is an issue with my caddie link. In diagnostic mode it sometimes initially detects the club but then a second later says no club detected. Support told me it is strange behavior and want me to use my phone in the pocket for shot detection next time I play to see if that is any better and identify caddie link as the issue (I hate playing with things in my pocket). It definitely takes away from just playing and enjoying the round when having to mess around with it so much. If the phone isn't any better at picking up shots, I'm really on the verge of trashing Arccos to be able to just focus on playing.  

Although I haven’t had nearly the difficulty you’ve had with shot detection- I use my Apple Watch, I have found it to be bit distracting. It hasn’t interfered with my rounds- I just had trouble getting to started. Today, I played a course with 27 holes, and it had difficulty recognizing which 9 I was starting on. 
That said, I’ve really enjoyed the data it’s collected after 6 rounds. I almost never listen to the Caddie, which I hope will get better at clubbing me after some more rounds. 
 

[RDel90 221]

27 minutes ago, DukeStKing said:

Although I haven’t had nearly the difficulty you’ve had with shot detection- I use my Apple Watch, I have found it to be bit distracting. It hasn’t interfered with my rounds- I just had trouble getting to started. Today, I played a course with 27 holes, and it had difficulty recognizing which 9 I was starting on. 
That said, I’ve really enjoyed the data it’s collected after 6 rounds. I almost never listen to the Caddie, which I hope will get better at clubbing me after some more rounds. 
 

Usually you select the starting hole when you go to start the round in the app. The data I will say gets a lot better the more rounds you play.

I played a round today with my phone instead of the caddie link. While I don’t  like having things in my pockets, especially a phone, it wasn’t too bad. Needless to say, using the phone Arccos only missed 4 shots all day. It was a little overcast too. So clearly there is something wrong with the Caddie Link device I have. Just have to wait what Arccos support comes back with. 

[RDel90 221]

So Arccos is sending me a replacement Caddie Link. We’ll see how that works next round on the 25th. Worst case I know the system is good with my phone so if need be just get rid of Link and have to use my phone.

[MaxEntropy 8,180]

On 8/13/2021 at 9:33 PM, DukeStKing said:

I almost never listen to the Caddie, which I hope will get better at clubbing me after some more rounds. 

Now that I've got about two years worth of data, I very much trust the caddie, especially when it comes to factoring wind and/or elevation. There have been a few times I have overridden it and it did not end well. I can only think of one time I followed its recommendation and found myself wishing I had gone with my choice. Of course, this all assumes I execute properly no matter which choice I make.

[6 Aces 18]

Curious how the Shot Scope V3 will work out on the course.  Cancelled the Arccos system after a year as I found it to be far too frustrating.  First, if it found me at my course, it would lose me somewhere along the way; and I had my phone in my front left pocket.  Second, I'd have it all set up to play at my course, then on the 1st tee it would put me at another course a half mile away.  Arccos tried to fix it, but never could.  I don't remember finishing a single 18 hole round with it.  And the dude at Arccos was no fun to work with.  

[MaxEntropy 8,180]

I happened to notice the Arccos app updated a couple times recently. The first one added the ability to overlay a 10' grid on the green. The most recent shows your movement around the green. These two things should make it a bit easier to adjust putts to be a closer match to reality.

So I made a huge putt Tuesday. My sensor did not pick it up, but based on where I walked, I'm fairly comfortable with where I placed it. My partner pulled my ball out of the cup and tossed it to me, which is why I never reached the flag. I'm going to have to pay more attention to where I walk to get a better sense of the accuracy of this feature.

I also noticed Tuesday that you can tell Arccos how long your second (and presumably third, fourth, etc.) putts were.

These are nice improvements, imo, and will hopefully lead to more accurate putting stats.

[Keeper905 75]

On 8/1/2021 at 11:12 PM, DukeStKing said:

I have only had my Arcoss for 3 rounds, but have had a lot of success using my Apple Watch (series 6) as the detection device- n fact, it sometimes registers practice swings. Just make sure your watch is fully charged- I also use the watch as the GPS and it drains the battery. 

I can agree here.  I am using series 5 Apple watch.  I use the GPS on the watch too and can't get thru a full round without the battery dying.  Even when it's fully charged and I put in on theatre mode and clear out all the other apps from background, etc.

I've gone to using the phone GPS instead.

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,441]

Debating reupping my subscription after my free year.  I like it but have had to replace all my sensors (got Used from here and were only 6 months old when I received). I have learned a lot about my game but don’t know if Arccos is causing me to obsess too much. Idk. Thoughts?

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,441]

On 9/2/2021 at 10:21 AM, MaxEntropy said:

I happened to notice the Arccos app updated a couple times recently. The first one added the ability to overlay a 10' grid on the green. The most recent shows your movement around the green. These two things should make it a bit easier to adjust putts to be a closer match to reality.

So I made a huge putt Tuesday. My sensor did not pick it up, but based on where I walked, I'm fairly comfortable with where I placed it. My partner pulled my ball out of the cup and tossed it to me, which is why I never reached the flag. I'm going to have to pay more attention to where I walk to get a better sense of the accuracy of this feature.

I also noticed Tuesday that you can tell Arccos how long your second (and presumably third, fourth, etc.) putts were.

These are nice improvements, imo, and will hopefully lead to more accurate putting stats.

Neat little feature. Just as I am contemplating selling. 

[Bulldog 76]

How many rounds have you recorded using Arccos? I'm at 135. I've replaced a few sensors both under warranty and paid.  I'm using Arccos Link.  It's become a part of my pre round routine to turn Link on and sync up with my iPhone.  I check to see if it's recording shots accurately every 2 or 3 holes, and to add penalties...

 

[MaxEntropy 8,180]

16 minutes ago, Bulldog said:

How many rounds have you recorded using Arccos? I'm at 135. I've replaced a few sensors both under warranty and paid.  I'm using Arccos Link.  It's become a part of my pre round routine to turn Link on and sync up with my iPhone.  I check to see if it's recording shots accurately every 2 or 3 holes, and to add penalties...

 

Just curious, how long have you had the sensors? I'm at around 100 rounds in a little over two years and have only had to replace the putter sensor under warranty. I have a gut feeling that the others are on borrowed time.