Nate Blumenthal Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Is this just a matter of getting fitted for irons? Or should I be hitting a certain number of greens in regulation? Any stories of low-handicappers who are still using game-improvement irons? MTK005 1 Quote HGC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 There is no definitive answer or reason to switch iron types. What do you want to accomplish with the lesser forgiving irons that you can't accomplish with your current irons? As for fitting, any player can be fit into any class of clubs. You can always ask a fitter to find the best setup for any head. While I currently play a players iron, I would willingly to put GI type clubs in my bag. THEZIPR23, MTK005, RickyBobby_PR and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garyk1285 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I went and got fitted for a set of forged irons and the results are so much better I have more workability with this irons then game improvement irons the feel is the same if not better but I hit the ball farther and more constantly with the forged irons compared to the game improvement irons Quote My bag currently has titleist ts4 driver titleist ts2 fairway wood a Srixon z h85 hybrid cobra king forged cb&mb irons 4-pw cobra snakebite 50 degree wedge cobra mim wedges in 52 56 and 60 degrees and a Cleveland hunting beach putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingGreens Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 It’s all about what you want. If you want to play a blade you certainly can it may not be as beneficial to a poor ball striker. If you want to have fun play what gives you the best outcomes. I currently play what gives me the opportunity to play well cnosil 1 Quote Stealth 2 Plus 9deg Kai' li Red Stealth 2 13deg Aldilla Rogue Silver Stealth 2 15deg Aldilla Rogue Silver JPX 921 Hot Metal 4-PW Nippon Modus 120s SM8 54 and 58deg Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Titleist ProV1 Hoofer Stand Bag Stewart Q Follow Electric Caddie 300 PRO Rangefinder Official Nippon Regio B+ Driver Shaft Review Official Stewart Q Follow Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooojonooo Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I've only been playing for a year but I made a switch from my M2s to JPX-921 Forged when I realized I had a bit too much distance and not enough workability. I also considered the gap between my clubs in terms of yardage. For me, the longer irons and my woods were too close in terms of distance. berkeleybob 1 Quote Driver: Cobra King F9 Driver 10.5 3 Wood: SIM2 MAX HL 16.5 5 Wood: SIM2 MAX 18 4 Hybrid: Cobra King F9 21 Irons: Mizuno JPX-921 5-GW Wedges: Taylormade Milled Grind 54/58 Putter: Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBT Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Play what you feel comfortable playing, most OEMs offer test irons in 6 or 7 irons…order one in a players iron or a blade and compare it side by side with you current GI irons. Then play what gives you the best results. GaDawg, HeathS16 and cnosil 3 Quote XR Driver Matrix Ozik 8m3 Black Tie Shaft King F7 3W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 5W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 4 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft PXG 0211 DC 5-PW Mitsubishi MMT 80 Shafts RTX ZIPCORE 50*,54*,58* UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts Metal X Milled #7 with SuperStroke 2.0 grip MTB Twitter: @timldotson Instagram: timldotson Facebook: TimDotson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeathS16 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I’ll 2nd what others have said but especially @TBT did. Play what you are most comfortable with and can still performs best. Do some tests, go get fitted, try one of the OEM demo programs like Sub70. I think I echo the thoughts of many people on MGS when I say whatever you do try to get fitted. That way it will allow you to take performance into consideration with the guidance of a fitter. I switched from Game Improvement irons when I started struggling to control greens and during my fit we quickly figured out I wasn’t getting enough launch or spin! MTK005 1 Quote Driver: TSi3 Tester Check out the Review HERE 2-Iron- 699-U 5-Wood: Pro (18*) Irons : i210 4-PW Wedges: RTX-4 50* and 54* RTX-3 *58 Putter: Impact No. 3 Ball: MAXFLI TOUR Tracked by: Bag: BagBoy ZTF Stand Bag (REVIEW HERE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 On 7/31/2021 at 10:18 AM, ooojonooo said: I had a bit too much distance I am not familiar with this comment Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chivo Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 IMHO. I'd say its more nuanced than "get fitted" most fitters wont fit you outside where the less forgiving models will either outshine the GIs or show that you need a little help. Its all about turn interaction and your eye at that point. the only thing indoor fittings get you when it comes to irons is shaft and dispersion which may get tighter or wider with actual turf under your feet. vandyland and tucker_jct 2 Quote Cobra RadSpeed,Set 8.5 Callway BB 4W 15* Cobra Forged Tec 18* Cobra Forged Tec 2020 4-GW , 4*Flat, Standard SW: RTX 54* LW: Full Face RTX 58* Scotty Cameron Putter: NP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 @El Chivo nailed it so I will just be reiterating what he said. You should narrow down your club choices based on a launch monitor off turf but once you have two or three finalists you MUST hit those off actual grass. Golf is not played off a mat and you are missing out on a key aspect of your golf club preference by only testing on a mat. I did an exhaustive journey regarding moving away from my game improvement irons and for me I learned a few things hitting a wide range of clubs: "Forgiveness" is very relative but ultimately gets down to what you can get away with on poor strike quality. There is a difference in turf forgiveness and face location forgiveness that I think is overlooked. Some people struggle with one more than the other and that is something to consider. If you don't have issues hitting the ball fat you might prefer a thinner sole, etc. "Feel" is very subjective as well but for me boiled down to "can I feel EXACTLY where I missed the ball?" I tested Sub 70 639CBs which were the first true one piece forged cavity back ("players cavity) I had ever hit and, I mean, I could tell you almost to the millimeter where I missed the ball on a slight to severe mishit. Compare that to my current irons where I can only feel really thin or extreme toe strikes. If you are working on getting better and working with a coach, having more feedback can be helpful. "Consistency", for me, meant what does an average to above average strike do? I don't really care what a terrible strike does because that's not something I am planning for and, at least currently, doesn't happen very often. BUT, what I was noticing with my game improvement clubs (Cobra F9 Speedback) is that I was getting more and more "fliers" where I would hit it in the center one time and it would fly the expected yardage. Then on the next swing I would hit it center and it would fly 12 yards farther. This was backed up by trackman testing (trackman picks up both all the numbers AND strike location). So where did I land? Basically somewhere in the middle. I hit a number of clubs that were improvements over my current GI irons and ultimately what I wanted was a bit higher spin to keep my distances in check, a tad higher launch for a better descent angle and better feedback on my misses. I found that in what I would call a "tweener" club that is not game improvement but also not a players club either. GaDawg, tucker_jct and El Chivo 2 1 Quote STZ 230 9.5* PinHawk SLF 16* STZ 230 Hybrid 21.25* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* Glide 4.0 (S) 58* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 Maxfli Tour X Official Review -- https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63068-testers-announced-maxfli-tour-x-golf-balls-with-max-align-technology/?do=findComment&comment=1021832 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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