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I was fitted by a PXG rep. in early May on an outdoor range with Trackman.  Once we narrowed down what worked best for me, everything was going longer and tighter.  Of course I saved a ton of cash via their full bag promotions compared to normal prices.  

About a week later, I had my sticks.  This impressed me to say the least after hearing all the stories of people waiting weeks/months for clubs.  See the full specs in my WITB signature. 

With the build and ship time off to a good start, I went to the range.  For full disclosure the range I went to had the grass closed, mats were used.  Same as the fitting, irons were going long and straight.  The irons being my first set of forged clubs felt butter soft and pure shots were just even better.  Mishits were noticed more than before with my old 2017 TM M1 irons.  I was seeing about a club longer than my old irons on good shots.  

On to the fairways.  Again, results were just like the fitting.  Longer and straighter than my old 2017 M2s.  I was seeing about 5-7 yards difference.  The feel was a bit more solid than the M2s, but that could just be down to age and lots of use.  I definitely have a "fall in love" period ahead of me with the fairways.  To me and many I know, fairways are like an old pair of shoes.  Have to break them in and be comfortable with the feel.  Once you do, all is great.  Of course if you like it to begin with.  

Driver.  Oh yes, the driver.  During the fitting all was great.  Well on the range I was seeing a totally different club.  15-20 yards short, did not feel great.  I summed it up to hitting off the rubber tees that are a little shorter than what I am used to.  

So 8 full founds and one 9 hole round later how do I feel about the full bag now?  

Love the irons with zero doubt.  If you have the chance to hit them, do it.  Make a decision for yourself.  From feel to distance and everything in between, I cannot say enough good things.  

Fairways are still growing on me, the feel is very solid and stiff but the numbers don't lie.  They are working for and it is just a feel thing for me.  

Driver....well the driver has not gotten any better for me.  I have went back to my old M3 for now.  I am planning to reach out to the PXG rep. to verify all the settings are where they should be.  Will update later about that interaction and if any change has happened.  

Wedges and putter are very nice and I give them a thumbs up for me.  I believe these a very much feel clubs and should be tried before buying.  I went from a 52, 56, and 60 setup to a 50, 54, and 58 setup.  I do not feel comparing the two setups would be fair for distances.  Spin and feel are great.  I have picked up a lot of distance control and alignment from the putter.  Again, I won't do much comparing here as my old putter was not fitted and bought off the rack.  

Just my two cents on PXG.  Overall I am happy with the purchase and PXG.  Hopefully we can get the driver figured out. 

 

 

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Bushnell Tour V4

Driver: Ping G410 Max 

Fairway: 5W 0341X Proto  | 7W Taylormade M2 

Irons: 0311P GEN3 IRONS 

Hybrid: Taylormade GAPR 21 Mid 

Weges: 54 and 58 SM8 Vokey

Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab Rball 34"

Ball: Pro V1X

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I have a set of 0211 irons that I'm pretty happy with, but.... these were self-selected, ie. not thru a fitting .. may in the future try to do an official fitting where I can compare these to other brands/models.

Anyway nice to hear your new set is *mostly* working out for you - hope you get that driver figured out!

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Great unofficial sir. I have been curious about PXG for a while, and even more so since the commercials with the hype voice over. The look of the PXG line is undeniable. Very sexy clubs. That bag is pretty sick too. Do you have a picture of the putter? I don’t think I have seen a PXG putter. Hopefully they are flexible with the driver. I would imagine you won’t have any issues with getting that figured out. Would love to know how that goes though. Keep us posted!

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1 hour ago, GIRplus3Putt said:

Great unofficial sir. I have been curious about PXG for a while, and even more so since the commercials with the hype voice over. The look of the PXG line is undeniable. Very sexy clubs. That bag is pretty sick too. Do you have a picture of the putter? I don’t think I have seen a PXG putter. Hopefully they are flexible with the driver. I would imagine you won’t have any issues with getting that figured out. Would love to know how that goes though. Keep us posted!

Thanks.  I think PXG gets a bad wrap just because they were expensive.  I don't believe you were paying for "better equipment", you were paying for status.  Is the equipment good?  From my limited use of it, yes.  In case of the irons, very good in my opinion.  I like supporting businesses who give back, Bob Parsons seems to do a lot of that.  He also seems to be no BS and a stand up guy.  I have no doubt PXG will listen to my concerns and come up with a resolution.  I am outside of the 30 day window, but we will see.  

Here is a picture of the putter.  I love the feel and weight of it.  The PXG jumbo grip is very nice also.  I think Lamkin makes them, I would have to double check that though.  Getting the right length, loft, and style of putter can make a huge difference.  Since using the new putter, Arccos has me at +2.1 strokes putting and averaging 32.8 putts per round.  Vast improvement putting for me.  

I am hoping to get down to a 10 hcp once the driver is figured out.  If not, I am confident in the good ole M3 for now.  

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Bushnell Tour V4

Driver: Ping G410 Max 

Fairway: 5W 0341X Proto  | 7W Taylormade M2 

Irons: 0311P GEN3 IRONS 

Hybrid: Taylormade GAPR 21 Mid 

Weges: 54 and 58 SM8 Vokey

Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab Rball 34"

Ball: Pro V1X

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43 minutes ago, Tat2Golf said:

Thanks.  I think PXG gets a bad wrap just because they were expensive.  I don't believe you were paying for "better equipment", you were paying for status.

The price was set high due the cost of starting up a good company. As soon as he made back the startup money the price of the Gen2 driver was lower at release as a way to give back to the customers for support.

While there was some push for status there was a huge rush of orders from military and first responders on gen1 irons when the heroes program was introduced.

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Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

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Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

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5 hours ago, Tat2Golf said:

Thanks.  I think PXG gets a bad wrap just because they were expensive.  I don't believe you were paying for "better equipment", you were paying for status.  Is the equipment good?  From my limited use of it, yes.  In case of the irons, very good in my opinion.  I like supporting businesses who give back, Bob Parsons seems to do a lot of that.  He also seems to be no BS and a stand up guy.  I have no doubt PXG will listen to my concerns and come up with a resolution.  I am outside of the 30 day window, but we will see.  

Here is a picture of the putter.  I love the feel and weight of it.  The PXG jumbo grip is very nice also.  I think Lamkin makes them, I would have to double check that though.  Getting the right length, loft, and style of putter can make a huge difference.  Since using the new putter, Arccos has me at +2.1 strokes putting and averaging 32.8 putts per round.  Vast improvement putting for me.  

I am hoping to get down to a 10 hcp once the driver is figured out.  If not, I am confident in the good ole M3 for now.  

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That’s a sweet looking flat stick for sure! I do love what PXG is doing with military and first responders. I am a big supporter of both, and I always appreciate when a company is. I see some tattoos there too?? Nice to see a fellow tatted golfer! I feel like I get looks sometimes at nicer courses over my ink. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience thus far, and I hope you meet and exceed your goals on the course! 

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On 7/30/2021 at 8:41 PM, GIRplus3Putt said:

That’s a sweet looking flat stick for sure! I do love what PXG is doing with military and first responders. I am a big supporter of both, and I always appreciate when a company is. I see some tattoos there too?? Nice to see a fellow tatted golfer! I feel like I get looks sometimes at nicer courses over my ink. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience thus far, and I hope you meet and exceed your goals on the course! 

Oh yea, I know the looks you're referencing for sure.  I have a good laugh every time it happens.  Surprisingly, I have been engaged in more positive conversations at nicer courses than public tracks regarding the ink.  

So far I am very happy with the setup.  Had a lesson Saturday, take away is working on not shutting the face at impact.  My coach gave me a new drill to work on.  After working on it with him during the lesson and a range session Sunday morning, I am seeing even more distance and height on the irons with good strikes.  We will see if it transfers over to the course and keep working on the drill.  

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Bushnell Tour V4

Driver: Ping G410 Max 

Fairway: 5W 0341X Proto  | 7W Taylormade M2 

Irons: 0311P GEN3 IRONS 

Hybrid: Taylormade GAPR 21 Mid 

Weges: 54 and 58 SM8 Vokey

Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab Rball 34"

Ball: Pro V1X

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I find the pricing a bit too steep, but otherwise I am a fan of the clubs. I did switch from old Ping irons 2 years ago, got fitted and now improved my length around 20 yards per iron, which is a big difference. It might be the same results with other brands - the clubs I played before where 9 years old already - but for me it was a big improvement in length and accuracy as well. 

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I had a similar issue when I was fitted into a new driver and took months to get comfortable with it and replicate the numbers I saw on the launch monitor out on the course. For me, I think it came down to a few things:

(1) I was hitting drives over and over with the club so I got used to how it felt and looked at address. On the course, I am seeing the driver fresh every 10-15 minutes and it was jarring as it set up differently than my old driver (new driver looked a bit more open at address)

(2) I was loose and by the end of my fitting had hit like 70 drives. I was locked in with driver so my fitting looked better than I actually am on the course and I was swinging a good 5-10 mph faster because (a) there was no real fear of hitting it OB or into a recovery position like I would on the course and (b) I was loose and chasing numbers on the monitor. This bumped me into an X stiff even flow shaft which I ultimately couldn't really manage out on the course when I was swinging at 105 mph (normal swing) rather than 115 mph (loose, distance swing that isn't safe on a tight golf course). 

Just my two cents. This story had a happy ending in that once I changed my shaft to a stiff and played a few rounds with the driver things improved. Of course, there could be a number of other factors as I was also taking lessons with a pro, etc. 

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2 hours ago, vandyland said:

I had a similar issue when I was fitted into a new driver and took months to get comfortable with it and replicate the numbers I saw on the launch monitor out on the course. For me, I think it came down to a few things:

(1) I was hitting drives over and over with the club so I got used to how it felt and looked at address. On the course, I am seeing the driver fresh every 10-15 minutes and it was jarring as it set up differently than my old driver (new driver looked a bit more open at address)

(2) I was loose and by the end of my fitting had hit like 70 drives. I was locked in with driver so my fitting looked better than I actually am on the course and I was swinging a good 5-10 mph faster because (a) there was no real fear of hitting it OB or into a recovery position like I would on the course and (b) I was loose and chasing numbers on the monitor. This bumped me into an X stiff even flow shaft which I ultimately couldn't really manage out on the course when I was swinging at 105 mph (normal swing) rather than 115 mph (loose, distance swing that isn't safe on a tight golf course). 

Just my two cents. This story had a happy ending in that once I changed my shaft to a stiff and played a few rounds with the driver things improved. Of course, there could be a number of other factors as I was also taking lessons with a pro, etc. 

Glad to hear yours worked out in the end.  I believe both of your points are valid for sure.  

I talked about it with my instructor Saturday and he seems to think it is something similar to your 2nd issue.  Not in the flex so much, but the kick point.  Apparently my previous shaft had a low kick point and the new has a mid kick point.  As the shafts were gradually changing in the fitting, all was fine.  We are going to look at some GC Quad numbers during my next session, I will contact PXG once I have those.  I believe it will give both PXG and myself real data to determine what the best course of action is for driver.  

 

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Bushnell Tour V4

Driver: Ping G410 Max 

Fairway: 5W 0341X Proto  | 7W Taylormade M2 

Irons: 0311P GEN3 IRONS 

Hybrid: Taylormade GAPR 21 Mid 

Weges: 54 and 58 SM8 Vokey

Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab Rball 34"

Ball: Pro V1X

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1 hour ago, Tat2Golf said:

Glad to hear yours worked out in the end.  I believe both of your points are valid for sure.  

I talked about it with my instructor Saturday and he seems to think it is something similar to your 2nd issue.  Not in the flex so much, but the kick point.  Apparently my previous shaft had a low kick point and the new has a mid kick point.  As the shafts were gradually changing in the fitting, all was fine.  We are going to look at some GC Quad numbers during my next session, I will contact PXG once I have those.  I believe it will give both PXG and myself real data to determine what the best course of action is for driver.  

 

The pxg fitter here brings you back to check everything so I’m surprised that didn’t happen for you. He’s also very accommodating if you feel there is any issues and  see if there’s any adjustments that need to be made. So I would reach out to them and see what they can do for you. 

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15 hours ago, 2puttbogey said:

The pxg fitter here brings you back to check everything so I’m surprised that didn’t happen for you. He’s also very accommodating if you feel there is any issues and  see if there’s any adjustments that need to be made. So I would reach out to them and see what they can do for you. 

Circumstance is a little different in my location.  The fitter is a regional traveling fitter.  He has a rotation for his region.  One of the disadvantages of living in a smaller area of the state.  I have no doubt they will be more than helpful figuring the issue out.  

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Bushnell Tour V4

Driver: Ping G410 Max 

Fairway: 5W 0341X Proto  | 7W Taylormade M2 

Irons: 0311P GEN3 IRONS 

Hybrid: Taylormade GAPR 21 Mid 

Weges: 54 and 58 SM8 Vokey

Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab Rball 34"

Ball: Pro V1X

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57 minutes ago, Tat2Golf said:

Circumstance is a little different in my location.  The fitter is a regional traveling fitter.  He has a rotation for his region.  One of the disadvantages of living in a smaller area of the state.  I have no doubt they will be more than helpful figuring the issue out.  

I had the same situation. Regional fitter. Great guy and I have no doubt they will be happy to help. In my case it might mean a trip to Atlanta, but that's not a disaster. Good luck with the whole thing. You have inspired me to look into the same situation. I have been working on my swing plane and definitely making changes (hopefully for the better), so I know an adjustment will be needed.

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2 hours ago, tigerpill said:

I had the same situation. Regional fitter. Great guy and I have no doubt they will be happy to help. In my case it might mean a trip to Atlanta, but that's not a disaster. Good luck with the whole thing. You have inspired me to look into the same situation. I have been working on my swing plane and definitely making changes (hopefully for the better), so I know an adjustment will be needed.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.  I will certainly do the same.  I actually just sent an email to fitter letting him know what is going on.  I have asked if he wants to wait for GC Quad data or collect his own with Trackman.  I will update once he replies.  

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Bushnell Tour V4

Driver: Ping G410 Max 

Fairway: 5W 0341X Proto  | 7W Taylormade M2 

Irons: 0311P GEN3 IRONS 

Hybrid: Taylormade GAPR 21 Mid 

Weges: 54 and 58 SM8 Vokey

Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab Rball 34"

Ball: Pro V1X

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UPDATE AFTER SPEAKING WITH PXG FITTING REP.

Matthew replied back last night and they will be in my area in September.  We will get together then.  For now we went over settings to ensure everything was setup the way it should be based on my fitting.  All is ok there.  We also discussed ball flight and feel of the driver.  Nothing really adds up.  We will get together in September to get to the bottom of it.  

For now, I will continue to play my old tried and true M3 and work with the PXG on the range along with my instructor to see what we can figure out.  In a few weeks we will get some GC Quad numbers like I mentioned before.  That should give some kind of direction for sure.  I will update if anything changes.

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Bushnell Tour V4

Driver: Ping G410 Max 

Fairway: 5W 0341X Proto  | 7W Taylormade M2 

Irons: 0311P GEN3 IRONS 

Hybrid: Taylormade GAPR 21 Mid 

Weges: 54 and 58 SM8 Vokey

Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab Rball 34"

Ball: Pro V1X

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