Shankster Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 So. The pitch shot. My forte, or used to be anyways. I think I’ve found my old technique that was cash money. Been hitting some nice crispy ones, makes me want to build my own pitch and putt course… What technique do you use? are you a Jason Day style “dead handed” pitch shot player? Seve’s soft touch? Strickers wide arc? PhiL’s airborne attack? Discuss… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 I follow the swing and hope technique. Not sure what pro that is associated with. tommc23, edingc, sirchunksalot and 4 others 1 1 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, cnosil said: I follow the swing and hope technique. Not sure what pro that is associated with. I was just giving some examples, but I’ve seen some interesting styles in my years... the flip wrist thinned ones are my favorite to listen to. The commentary is amazing. I was using yours just the other day. Had the thought that I was going to Hosel everything…. Makes for an interesting day, everything was left of target… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Shankster said: I was just giving some examples, but I’ve seen some interesting styles in my years... the flip wrist thinned ones are my favorite to listen to. The commentary is amazing. I was using yours just the other day. Had the thought that I was going to Hosel everything…. Makes for an interesting day, everything was left of target… I am actually more Stricker; minimal wrist bend, don’t manipulate the face very much and turn through the ball. Shankster 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, cnosil said: I follow the swing and hope technique. Not sure what pro that is associated with. BAD comes to mind. I was actually a little Stricker-like as well, but since I have been using the PlaneMate, I have a little more wrist in the shot and a lot higher launch which I like. However, now I have to make some adjustments. Shankster, tommc23, cnosil and 1 other 2 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Use the bounce 2.0 method. Kenny B 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) My pro has got me starting to use the Stricker method. At least for 20-50 yard shots. Here's what he's got me doing. All the weight on front foot Minimal forward press Only take the club back about waist high. Then on the downswing, don't try to accelerate, just let gravity do it's thing. There's not any turn on the shorter shots and only a little bit on max distance. I've also been working on getting the club on plane & finishing at the target. The 50 yard shots are a fantastic way to develop this feeling for the full swing. It's become part of my warm-up routine. Edited August 6, 2021 by DiscipleofPenick Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, DiscipleofPenick said: My pro has got me starting to use the Stricter method. At least for 20-50 yard shots. Here's what he's got me doing. All the weight on front foot Minimal forward press Only take the club back about waist high. Then on the downswing, don't try to accelerate, just let gravity do it's thing. There's not any turn on the shorter shots and only a little bit on max distance. I've also been working on getting the club on plane & finishing at the target. The 50 yard shots are a fantastic way to develop this feeling for the full swing. It's become part of my warm-up routine. Interesting you say there no turn because stricker has turn. The turn in his backswing matches the length of his turn and he turns thru the ball to a finish Kenny B 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Interesting you say there no turn because stricker has turn. The turn in his backswing matches the length of his turn and he turns thru the ball to a finish I guess I need to watch a video then. I mean there's a little shoulder turn, just not the lower body. Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Just now, DiscipleofPenick said: I guess I need to watch a video then. I mean there's a little shoulder turn, just not the lower body. Stricker on his left arm parallel has upper and lower body turn. It’s not a full swing turn because he’s not making a full swing but it’s basically also 3/4 turn. Even in a shot that’s going to be shaft parallel will have some turn. It will be about half the amount of shoulder turn Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Stricker on his left arm parallel has upper and lower body turn. It’s not a full swing turn because he’s not making a full swing but it’s basically also 3/4 turn. Even in a shot that’s going to be shaft parallel will have some turn. It will be about half the amount of shoulder turn Then what the heck is he having me do??? I mean it's working, so not freaking out, but he said like Stricker. Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, DiscipleofPenick said: Then what the heck is he having me do??? I mean it's working, so not freaking out, but he said like Stricker. I don’t know and if it’s working don’t change. I was just commenting on the no turn part as be an interesting thought when comparing to a pro golfer who has turn. here’s a short pitch shot from stricker. You can see the hips rotate Kenny B 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haro Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 I keep it simple. Feels like I’m slicing the ball with a wedge. My hips rotate My rhythm pitch shot feels like green side bunker shot except I lock my hips and purposely hit fat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 7 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: I don’t know and if it’s working don’t change. I was just commenting on the no turn part as be an interesting thought when comparing to a pro golfer who has turn. here’s a short pitch shot from stricker. You can see the hips rotate Yep, that's the same move I'm doing. Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, DiscipleofPenick said: Yep, that's the same move I'm doing. So you do have some rotation which matches amount of turn, it’s him just not a lot turn DiscipleofPenick 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavygolffeels Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Mickelson - hinge and hold. Quote GARSEN GRIP TESTER Driver: PING G400 MAX, Ventus Blue 6x Woods: COBRA F6 Baffler AD DI 8S Hybrid: CALLAWAY Apex Pro, Ventus Blue 8s Irons: SRIXON ZX5 mk2 5-6, ZX7 mk2 7-PW, Modus 120x Wedges: EDEL 50 C grind, 54 V grind, CLEVELAND 60 RTX6 Low Putter: YES Abbie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 I might upgrade my pitch shots with those T-22 copper wedges. Wife absolutely loves the way they look… + … forged + …. Not chrome +… the way I see it that’s 3 +’s for 3 new wedges. Kenny B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, scooterhd2 said: Mickelson - hinge and hold. I love Phil's videos on this, and I tried it for a week. I just can't do it. Stricker's motion fits me better. Shankster 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, Shankster said: I might upgrade my pitch shots with those T-22 copper wedges. Wife absolutely loves the way they look… + … forged + …. Not chrome +… the way I see it that’s 3 +’s for 3 new wedges. Ahhh, it's the copper look; sorta like the TaylorMade Hi-Toe wedge you loved... for awhile. Shankster 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Kenny B said: Ahhh, it's the copper look; sorta like the TaylorMade Hi-Toe wedge you loved... for awhile. A while?! More like 3 days. Haha. Kenny B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 It's been mentioned already, but a minimal wrist bend approach focusing on using the body to turn and control the clubface has been what I've been working on. I'd recommend looking at a PlaneMate and the introductory protocols for anyone struggling with this. Shankster and Kenny B 2 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 57 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said: It's been mentioned already, but a minimal wrist bend approach focusing on using the body to turn and control the clubface has been what I've been working on. I'd recommend looking at a PlaneMate and the introductory protocols for anyone struggling with this. What is the benefit of this approach? I use it often, the no wrist action…. But I’ve been working on some fluidity in the pitch shots, which is leading to more spin, more accurate shots, and less frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Shankster said: What is the benefit of this approach? I use it often, the no wrist action…. But I’ve been working on some fluidity in the pitch shots, which is leading to more spin, more accurate shots, and less frustration. I'm sure other's will chime in here, and I'm not saying it's the only "right" approach obviously, but Martin Chuck (guy behind the PlaneMate) often emphasizes the use of the body to control the clubface rather than a hands and arms motion, and you can see that emphasis in the PlaneMate and SmartBall training aids. The thinking, I believe, is that it's a lot more consistent delivery of the club than a more variable and timing-dependent approach that relies on hands/wrist action. Shankster 1 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, Getoffmylawn said: I'm sure other's will chime in here, and I'm not saying it's the only "right" approach obviously, but Martin Chuck (guy behind the PlaneMate) often emphasizes the use of the body to control the clubface rather than a hands and arms motion, and you can see that emphasis in the PlaneMate and SmartBall training aids. The thinking, I believe, is that it's a lot more consistent delivery of the club than a more variable and timing-dependent approach that relies on hands/wrist action. I hear you. I really messed myself up trying to use this approach full time. I still do, but it is for less spin, and only like 50 and in. seems odd, but I think I have a harder time keeping everything going the same direction with just a body turn. I always had a bit of wrist in my swing, timed it well. Then, you know. You see something, give it a try and then off the deep end you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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