Tiftaaft 1,045 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Just an informal survey & comments: Do you use ball alignment marks (either manufactured or self inflicted) when putting? I prefer a clean ball and while I sometimes play a triple track Cally - I place my ball on the opposite side. Maybe old school, but I find alignment marks distracting (tried to use it for a period of time, but didn't find my putting improved measurably using alignment... I can close pull my putter across the line as easily with or without the lines ;)). Just curious how many find the lines on balls advantageous to your success on the greens. 1 Quote Official MGS Tester: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 115 shafts (<--- Click Here) Titleist TSi3 9* (@ 10.5*) Driver Srixon ZX 3W, 5W & 7W Titleist TSi2 5 Hybrid Titleist 2021 T200 6-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron SS Newport 2.5 Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregGarner 1,337 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I always line up the side stamp when I'm putting, but don't line up off the tee. When I'm putting, it's mostly as a final visual check as I'm setting up. My routine is to read the line and pick my aim point then line up the side stamp to that aim point. Then I set up next to the ball for three practice strokes and then address the ball. Because I'm (extremely) right-eye dominant, I've learned not to trust my reads when I'm standing over the putt so if I see something other than where my side stamp is pointing, I either trust the side stamp or I back off and take another look. I have tried using alignment markings like drawing a full circle around the ball and even splurged for the Align XL from golfballs.com, but I find those extremely distracting and they don't help my read based on my routine. Bonus: the more prominent the alignment marking, the more perfect it has to be. Even the slightest bit of wobble will make you think you hit a bad putt when it could really be that some paint was applied incorrectly by 1 degree. Not good for my confidence when I see the wobble... 4 Quote Driver: RADspeed 9* with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 60X Fun driver: ZX5 9.5* with 46.5" Tensei CK White 60S 3-wood: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S 5-wood: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S 2i: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff 4i-7i ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S 50*, 54* RTX ZipCore Modus3 Tour 115 60* RTX Full Face ZipCore DG Spinner S400 Putter: HB Soft Premier 11s, Toulon Chicago Ball: Maxfli Tour, ProV1, TP5x, Left Dash Bag: Ltd Edition Tartan, blue/green/yellow Using to keep track of my shots and Fit for Golf Tested: D7 Forged 3i-PW, KBS Tour-V 110S - Official Review Blind Ball Test (Ball #3 vs Ball #4) - Unofficial Review V3 GPS Watch + Tags - Official Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb 9,785 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I line up my ball when putting on my intended start line. I also line up off the tee, but not straight on my line - I place the ball with something like a logo or my ball mark on the inside rear so I can visualize hitting the ball from the inside to help not lunge at the ball or come OTT. 4 Quote In my carry bag: Mavrik Max 10.5* R Flex Evenflow RipTide Hy-Wood Launcher 5h D200 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* #10 e12 Contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR 10,207 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I don’t use alignment aid. The only marks I put on my ball is to identify them while in play especially if I dont have the personalized ones with me 3 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK 3,607 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I don't use alignment marks or line the ball up in any particular way. 2 Quote Driver: Mizuno ST190 9.5* Aldila RIP Alpha 60 S Fairway Wood: Mizuno ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: Bridgestone J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 54* & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105 Putter: Cleveland Huntington Beach SOFT Premier 4 34" Ball: Snell MTB-X Bag: 2017 Titleist Players 5 Stand Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiftaaft 1,045 Posted August 10, 2021 Author Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, russtopherb said: I line up my ball when putting on my intended start line. I also line up off the tee, but not straight on my line - I place the ball with something like a logo or my ball mark on the inside rear so I can visualize hitting the ball from the inside to help not lunge at the ball or come OTT. Great comment russ.. I was just working on moving my focus to the front of the ball (from my normal back edge) to help a tendency to hit the big ball first. I'm going to try the logo focus tip. 2 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: I don’t use alignment aid. The only marks I put on my ball is to identify them while in play especially if I dont have the personalized ones with me Agreed RB, a dot or two depending on how I feel that day. 2 Quote Official MGS Tester: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 115 shafts (<--- Click Here) Titleist TSi3 9* (@ 10.5*) Driver Srixon ZX 3W, 5W & 7W Titleist TSi2 5 Hybrid Titleist 2021 T200 6-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron SS Newport 2.5 Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiftaaft 1,045 Posted August 10, 2021 Author Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, greggarner said: Bonus: the more prominent the alignment marking, the more perfect it has to be. That is an interesting unintended side effect of marking. Great comment GG 1 Quote Official MGS Tester: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 115 shafts (<--- Click Here) Titleist TSi3 9* (@ 10.5*) Driver Srixon ZX 3W, 5W & 7W Titleist TSi2 5 Hybrid Titleist 2021 T200 6-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron SS Newport 2.5 Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobotDoctor 319 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I putt with an alignment mark. The balls I use don't come with one so I add one with a black sharpie marker and marking tool. After aligning the mark in line to my intended putting line I focus on putting through the line, like hammering a nail into a board (common swing thought). The reason for this swing thought is to putt through the ball and not just hit the ball. This promotes me to release the putter and make a smooth stroke. I have another method to gauge speed that seems to work for me. I also put a dot by the number in gold sharpie marker to the left of the alignment line (first dimple lower right of the number). 4 Quote Driver: TaylorMade 300 Mini 11.5° (10.2°), Fujikura Ventus Blue 5S Velocore 3W: TaylorMade M4 15°, Graphite Design Tour AD DI 7S Hybrid: TaylorMade Sim2 2 Iron Hybrid 17°, Mitsubishi Tensai AV Raw Blue 80 stiff Irons: Ben Hogan Icon blades 4-PW, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 stiff GW / LW: Scratch Golf 1018 forged 50°/ 58° DS, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 stiff SW: Callaway MD5 Jaws 54°, TT DG Tour Issue S200 115g wedge shaft Putter: Byron Morgan DH89 GSS custom, Salty MidPlus cork grip Grips: BestGrips Augusta Microperf leather slip on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil 26,404 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I used to putt with a line and then switched to no mark. Thought was that I would putt better by seeing the curve of the putt and not putting at an intermediate target or point left/right if the hole. Probably okay for lag putting, but considering going back to a line on putts that are 15’ and in to see if that helps my midrange putting. 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 5-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: T20 54-8 588 58-12 Putter: Directed Force 2.1 Backups: TM-180, Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787, mFGP2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mush830 3 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 When putting I have the brand name of my ball facing up and focus on that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick 4,194 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/9/2021 at 10:41 AM, Tiftaaft said: Just an informal survey & comments: Do you use ball alignment marks (either manufactured or self inflicted) when putting? I prefer a clean ball and while I sometimes play a triple track Cally - I place my ball on the opposite side. Maybe old school, but I find alignment marks distracting (tried to use it for a period of time, but didn't find my putting improved measurably using alignment... I can close pull my putter across the line as easily with or without the lines ;)). Just curious how many find the lines on balls advantageous to your success on the greens. Finally someone else who does this. On the tee and green I find a blank side and put that facing up. I find all marks distracting too. 2 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: Titleist 714CB 4-PW Wedges: Vokey SM5 & SM6 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom the Golf Nut 8,766 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I use a line for putting and on the tee box. ( always a blue line ) On putting I read the line and pick my aim point then line up the line to that aim point. Then I set up next to the ball for three practice strokes and then address the ball. On the tee box I line up the line on the ball with the spot I want to hit in the fairway. I want a small target to aim for. My course has many tee boxes that are angled to draw you into hitting away from the fairway. I find it easier to focus on my ball alignment. Square myself to the ball, practice swing once, address the ball and swing. It's what works for me! 5 Quote Driver, TSi1 10* Stiff Flex 3 Wood, SLDR HL 17* R Flex 5 Wood, SLDR 19* R Flex 7 Wood, F6 22.5* R Flex 939x 5 hybrid Irons, 699 Pro's S Flex (6 - AW) JB Wedge 56* Wedge, CBX 60* Putter, Marksman Fang 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiftaaft 1,045 Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said: My course has many tee boxes that are angled to draw you into hitting away from the fairway. The grounds crew are pretty devious at my course as well!! 1 1 Quote Official MGS Tester: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 115 shafts (<--- Click Here) Titleist TSi3 9* (@ 10.5*) Driver Srixon ZX 3W, 5W & 7W Titleist TSi2 5 Hybrid Titleist 2021 T200 6-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron SS Newport 2.5 Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiftaaft 1,045 Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 hours ago, DiscipleofPenick said: Finally someone else who does this. I'm glad I'm not the only one! Quote Official MGS Tester: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 115 shafts (<--- Click Here) Titleist TSi3 9* (@ 10.5*) Driver Srixon ZX 3W, 5W & 7W Titleist TSi2 5 Hybrid Titleist 2021 T200 6-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron SS Newport 2.5 Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie 17,631 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 No marks, no lines, and oftentimes I putt the ball after not having touched it all. Makes no difference to me how it’s oriented. 2 Quote Driver: King F9 Speedback/Epic Max LS, Xphlexxx Busa 2 Liquid, XX stiff, 45” Fwy: Epic Speed 4w, MMT 80X Hybrid: X2 Hot Pro, 20*, Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 105X Irons: TR20 Tour P 4-10, Modus 130 stiff, +1” Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 All but putter have Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Calibrate midsize built to oversize +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlH 8,669 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I do not use a line on my ball. I mark my ball with 6 dots on different areas of the ball (basically all sides). I do use the dots as focus points when putting (one of the dots at the top) as it helps me maintain a steady head thru the stroke. I do not use it as an alignment tool. I also use it on the teeing box by placing one of the dots on the inside rear quadrant where I can see it. Again, I focus on that dot during my swing. With a dot on all sides of the ball, one dot is almost always visible when the ball is in play. 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at N) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Mitishibishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: M6 4 -- Fujikura Atmos R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBSTour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: Stroke Lab 7S Ball: Maxfli TourX Golf Bag: Pioneer My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchnut33 82 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 For longer putts (12+ feet) I don’t use an alignment mark of any kind, but I use the manufacturer marking on putts inside of that. I’ve gone back and forth with using the alignment marking on the tee, not sure I can find a discernible difference. Quote Ping G410+, 9* with draw bias weight setting, 55g Alta CB stiff shaft Taylormade Burner 3w, stiff shaft Mizuno JPX919 Hot Metal 4-GW, regular flex Cleveland CBX2 54* wedge Cleveland Smart Sole 58* wedge Ping Scottsdale Piper C putter Titleist Tour Speed balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFP 3 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 I had tried using the preprinted mark years ago, abandoned it after lousy results and then read an article on golf digest that most people actually aim for more break than what they thing they are. So I went back to using the mark on the ball, played for a little more break and finally got it.....I never looked back. I NEVER uses sharpie, the line is never as clean as the factory line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTVMAN 167 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 No. Tried Triple-Track but it really screws me up. I prefer to find my line then a nice smooth stroke. Quote Certified Club Fitter. Ping G425 Max Driver 10.5° w/Diamona S+ LTD Blue-Board 70 R Flex Ping G410 5 Fairway Wood Mitsubishi Tensi Orange R Flex Ping G410 4-5-6 Hybrids Mitsubishi Tensi Blue R Flex Ping i500 Irons 5-U w/Recoil SmacWrap F3 Flex (power-spec lofts) Ping 3.0 Eye2 Glide Wedges 54°-58° w/Recoil SmacWrap F3 Flex 2021 Ping Fetch Putter/1996 Original Odyssey (not Callaway) Dual Force Rossie Blade PING Pioneer Cart Bag Lamkin Sonar+ Mid-Size Grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 87 36 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 8/12/2021 at 10:59 AM, caeye0710 said: First time MGS poster here after spending years at another forum site, also a "Certified Club Junkie" I was just going some research on the MG3 being released early next month. IMO, what a sharp looking wedge! I've admittedly been a Vokey guy my entire life, so doubt I'll be making a move considering my SM8's are waiting for their first round (just swapped new ones in after a year with my first set of SM8). While looking at the MSRP for the new MG3 ($179 for stock options), it got me thinking: Are OEM's going completely off the rails with prices on new equipment? I don't remember which model it was, but I remember that I could walk in to a shop and get three new wedges for $327 plus tax ($109 MSRP). It's gotten to the point where buying three new TM wedges would be $578 after tax here in NC (NEARLY $600!). Let me add to that by saying: I understand. Over time, costs related to materials and shipping increase. One can argue that even production costs increase, although as a Process Improvement Consultant in the Manufacturing industry for close to a decade, I don't know if that rings true as much as we think it does due to the automation process nowadays (although I'll admit there has to be some merit to it). Doesn't mean I'm an expert in the Behind-The-Scenes production of golf equipment, but a lot of my clients have remained stagnant in their production process over the years due to robotics and automation processes, so I would think it would ring somewhat true to golf equipment OEMs. Back to the topic: Are we getting to a point where it's going to eventually be too expensive to get the latest and greatest equipment? In 2004, Drivers hit a $500 MSRP for the first time (TM R7, Titleist 905 Series, etc.). The R7 was the first driver to be listed at $500 (I think) and I recall people throwing a fit. Titleist quickly followed suit on the 905 series, although I specifically remember our Titleist rep at my club back then mentioned that the initial MSRP was going to be $409 until TM came to market and announced the R7 at a higher price point. Nowadays, $550+ is the norm. Over 17 years that difference doesn't add up to much, but what happens in another 15 years? Stock drivers listed at $800? Stock FW's at $500? Iron sets off the rack at $2,000? Wedges at $200 a piece? Putters (too many variables here honestly, but let's say $400 average) That means if you want to revamp an entire bag, you'll be dropping somewhere in the neighborhood of $4,300 if you stick to stock options and don't get fitted for upgraded shafts and specs. Maybe I'm just completely off base here and my opinion is wrong, but I'd be curious to here what some of you folks think. Feel free to roast me if I sound like an idiot On 8/9/2021 at 11:41 AM, Tiftaaft said: Just an informal survey & comments: Do you use ball alignment marks (either manufactured or self inflicted) when putting? I prefer a clean ball and while I sometimes play a triple track Cally - I place my ball on the opposite side. Maybe old school, but I find alignment marks distracting (tried to use it for a period of time, but didn't find my putting improved measurably using alignment... I can close pull my putter across the line as easily with or without the lines ;)). Just curious how many find the lines on balls advantageous to your success on the greens. I like to see white only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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