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So less than 2 weeks away from the Tour Championship at East Lake. My company is located pretty close to there so we have VIP passes all week. Starting with the Charity round on Wendnesday and then teeing off at 7:30am each day at various local courses before heading over to East Lake for the afternoon for rounds 1-4. I'll try and share as many pictures as I can take!! Any fellow Spies going to be there? 

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Well, I for one am still exhausted having watched the BMW to its conclusion.  It will be tough for the Tour Championship to top that level of overall play and record setting finish.  The flurry of position shuffling has been incredible to watch.  Several players seemingly rising from the ashes to make it into the top 30. So here we are at the finish line, East Lake in Atlanta, GA.  Who will take home the chump change $15,000,000 check from the $60,000,000 purse? 

Tour Championship: Dustin Johnson wins first FedEx Cup

Here is the list of horses and where they will start score wise off #1 tee.  DJ starts 7 back of the leader and will need a virtual out of body level of play to make up the gap.  To be completely honest, I have never liked the bonus score format and would rather see them do away with it.  What are your thoughts on this?

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5 minutes ago, Shankster said:

Still don’t understand why the leader starts way ahead of the pack.  This ain’t  NASCAR.

I agree that was a terrible move. I would like to see a cumulative three-tournament score be the winner of the Tour Championship. Keep the Fedex points to determine the 30 who qualify, but of those 30, the combined score of the three playoff events is the winner. 

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44 minutes ago, LICC said:

I agree that was a terrible move. I would like to see a cumulative three-tournament score be the winner of the Tour Championship. Keep the Fedex points to determine the 30 who qualify, but of those 30, the combined score of the three playoff events is the winner. 

Why limit it to 30? 70 across the board for the playoffs, no cut.  
 

More reason for the worldwide tour.  A WGC type event playoff… that would be fun.  A lot of the same guys would be there anyways.

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11 minutes ago, Shankster said:

Why limit it to 30? 70 across the board for the playoffs, no cut.  
 

More reason for the worldwide tour.  A WGC type event playoff… that would be fun.  A lot of the same guys would be there anyways.

I like the idea of having to advance through each round in a playoff format. Maybe 40 instead of 30 make it to the last round. Whatever the number, it is the cumulative scoring that I think would be good.

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1 hour ago, Shankster said:

Why limit it to 30? 70 across the board for the playoffs, no cut.  
 

More reason for the worldwide tour.  A WGC type event playoff… that would be fun.  A lot of the same guys would be there anyways.

So what about like our fantasy Golf playoffs? 

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Use the current FedEx points playoff as the “play in” to get to the Tour Championship. Then seed the top 16 and go March Madness style in match play for the championship. Losers go in a consolation bracket like FF to fully round out the final standings. 

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5 hours ago, RDel90 said:

Use the current FedEx points playoff as the “play in” to get to the Tour Championship. Then seed the top 16 and go March Madness style in match play for the championship. Losers go in a consolation bracket like FF to fully round out the final standings. 

That'd be an interesting twist.  If you end up attending, shoot the thread some almost live, on-site fan shots so we can all feel just a wee bit closer to actually being there.  Selfie's as a player passes close behind you earns extra points... mind you they are worth absolutely nothing, but points nevertheless 🙂

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3 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

That'd be an interesting twist.  If you end up attending, shoot the thread some almost live, on-site fan shots so we can all feel just a wee bit closer to actually being there.  Selfie's as a player passes close behind you earns extra points... mind you they are worth absolutely nothing, but points nevertheless 🙂

Imagine if you wound up with a Bryson-Brooksy matchup! We'll see how many selfies bombs I can get.

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15 hours ago, RDel90 said:

Use the current FedEx points playoff as the “play in” to get to the Tour Championship. Then seed the top 16 and go March Madness style in match play for the championship. Losers go in a consolation bracket like FF to fully round out the final standings. 

The TV networks would never go for this. 

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44 minutes ago, LICC said:

The TV networks would never go for this. 

The TV networks can you know what.  Along with the “governing bodies”, I read a good chunk of the distance report last night.  

All of it coincides with people working out more and getting faster after Tiger went nuts… a little common sense here, going from persimmon to 460cc in just a few years… eventually someone was going to figure out how to make the most of it.  Same with long putters, leave them alone. Let’s handicap the game even more… especially if you do have a physical condition that you need a long putter, or whatever.

Time to get with the times USGA.

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1 hour ago, Shankster said:

The TV networks can you know what.  Along with the “governing bodies”, I read a good chunk of the distance report last night.  

All of it coincides with people working out more and getting faster after Tiger went nuts… a little common sense here, going from persimmon to 460cc in just a few years… eventually someone was going to figure out how to make the most of it.  Same with long putters, leave them alone. Let’s handicap the game even more… especially if you do have a physical condition that you need a long putter, or whatever.

Time to get with the times USGA.

A little off topic, but working out has nothing to do with it. Distance gains are from equipment technology. Also, the USGA has nothing to do with the Tour Championship format. 
 

As to the TV networks, they pay the bills. Match play would have too much risk of the stars not playing on Sunday, too much dead air time as only two groups are out, and an early finish. I think cumulative three tournament scoring is the best solution. 

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2 hours ago, Shankster said:

The TV networks can you know what.  Along with the “governing bodies”, I read a good chunk of the distance report last night.  

All of it coincides with people working out more and getting faster after Tiger went nuts… a little common sense here, going from persimmon to 460cc in just a few years… eventually someone was going to figure out how to make the most of it.  Same with long putters, leave them alone. Let’s handicap the game even more… especially if you do have a physical condition that you need a long putter, or whatever.

Time to get with the times USGA.

Yep,  I also see videos of people using 20 year old equipment(balls and clubs) and still hitting it 300 yards.   The distance is largely from the fact that people swing the clubs faster.  

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1 hour ago, LICC said:

A little off topic, but working out has nothing to do with it. Distance gains are from equipment technology. Also, the USGA has nothing to do with the Tour Championship format. 
 

As to the TV networks, they pay the bills. Match play would have too much risk of the stars not playing on Sunday, too much dead air time as only two groups are out, and an early finish. I think cumulative three tournament scoring is the best solution. 

Yes, technology played a part, but it went from like 10 to 1000 quickly. The USGA regulates equipment, so they do play a little part.

Working out definitely played a part though. Maybe not lifting weights, but in general the clubs get swung faster.

Not trying to be a jerk.  Just a friendly conversation regarding this sport.

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10 hours ago, LICC said:

A little off topic, but working out has nothing to do with it. Distance gains are from equipment technology. 

As long as equipment includes launch monitors and not just clubs and balls...

People didn't even understand launch and spin properly in the recent past. The bulk of distance gains on tour could be attributed to the difference in hitting down with driver versus a couple degrees up. If you don't think physical training contributes - go look up Martin Borgmeier. It's not his new driver allowing him to hit 400+ yards carry.

Knowledge is cumulative and exercise science is an area of rapid development, especially with the money flowing into the sport since Tiger. The genie is out of the bottle now, speed is going to take off in the next 5 years. Tiger pushed a step change evolution we are just seeing now around general fitness. Bryson and Mark Broadie are about to push the next one coupled with instant feedback on launch monitors. 

There is going to be a lot of Wilco Nienaber's on tour in another 5 years. 

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As long as equipment includes launch monitors and not just clubs and balls...

People didn't even understand launch and spin properly in the recent past. The bulk of distance gains on tour could be attributed to the difference in hitting down with driver versus a couple degrees up. If you don't think physical training contributes - go look up Martin Borgmeier. It's not his new driver allowing him to hit 400+ yards carry.

Knowledge is cumulative and exercise science is an area of rapid development, especially with the money flowing into the sport since Tiger. The genie is out of the bottle now, speed is going to take off in the next 5 years. Tiger pushed a step change evolution we are just seeing now around general fitness. Bryson and Mark Broadie are about to push the next one coupled with instant feedback on launch monitors. 

There is going to be a lot of Wilco Nienaber's on tour in another 5 years. 

I remember reading somewhere that not long ago engineers are PING felt that low launch high spin was the way to go for maximum distance. Now it's the exact opposite.

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So initial teaser….when not actually in the rounds, posting up at a coworkers house across from the 12th green. Not saying it will happen during the tourney, but I do know balls have been hit from the front yard onto the green. About 90 yards across the street.

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19 hours ago, BMart519 said:

As long as equipment includes launch monitors and not just clubs and balls...

People didn't even understand launch and spin properly in the recent past. The bulk of distance gains on tour could be attributed to the difference in hitting down with driver versus a couple degrees up. If you don't think physical training contributes - go look up Martin Borgmeier. It's not his new driver allowing him to hit 400+ yards carry.

Knowledge is cumulative and exercise science is an area of rapid development, especially with the money flowing into the sport since Tiger. The genie is out of the bottle now, speed is going to take off in the next 5 years. Tiger pushed a step change evolution we are just seeing now around general fitness. Bryson and Mark Broadie are about to push the next one coupled with instant feedback on launch monitors. 

There is going to be a lot of Wilco Nienaber's on tour in another 5 years. 

Yes, I agree- all of the equipment advances have contributed. Players are able to swing differently (more aggressively) today than decades ago because of the equipment. 

When it comes to the PGA Tour, IMO physical training contributes hardly anything to the distance gains.

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