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What weighs greater on tester selection having 3000 posts or donating 3000 dollars?


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25 minutes ago, Shankster said:

I post a lot.  I don’t think it has any bearing either way on how they choose testers. I also don’t use social media like Facebook, and limited on Twitter, and Instagram.  

 

Just join the group and be part of the team.  There is more to this place than the testing opportunities.  I’m sure most of my posts are in the random/got problems and the where in the Sam heck did my swing go threads.

If you take a read around the forums you’ll see some WITB’s, hole in ones, terrible rounds, people meeting up for a round.

Just a great all around online “clubhouse” that offers some amazing opportunities to test clubs.  

Well said Grasshopper!!

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Rick

 

 

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5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous Vista Pro R2

Irons; Ping G710 6-GW, Recoil 460 R2

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5 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

you can donate the $3000 to me. 

i don’t think it’ll improve your chances, but i’ll sure like you a whole lot more 

I'll up you one, Donate $3000 to me and I will send you a $500 driver to test. Seems fair!

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I won’t answer the poll because like others the values are screwed. In my test group this past year I’m pretty sure there was someone with only a hundred or so posts, then around a thousand, then me at 5 or 6 grand

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13 minutes ago, tommc23 said:

I won’t answer the poll because like others the values are screwed. In my test group this past year I’m pretty sure there was someone with only a hundred or so posts, then around a thousand, then me at 5 or 6 grand

Agree that the Poll values don’t make sense.

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Rick

 

 

Left Hand, 

Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr R2

5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous Vista Pro R2

Irons; Ping G710 6-GW, Recoil 460 R2

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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22 hours ago, russtopherb said:

Not a mod, but I'm going to say neither.

There are plenty of testers who have less than 200 posts but were chosen because their quality of content stood out.

When I was chosen to be a tester, I had not become a donor yet. So that didn't weigh in to the equasion.

This poll supposes that there's a "pay to play" model behind the scenes here at MGS. 

Completely agree, the quality of what you post is more important than how often you post.

21 hours ago, hckymeyer said:

 Be active on the forum, be nice, make a profile, get a profile picture.

There are so many testing opportunities available throughout a season that a wide range of people will be selected.  There will be donors, there will be people with lots of posts, there will also be non-donors, and people with much fewer posts.

There most likely will not be people who post only a handful of times a year with the majority of those posts in testing application threads.

That right there is the secret formula, being active.

20 hours ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said:

Agree with Brian's assessment. Can't tell you how much deliberation we would go through to select testers. The one thing we had to be sure of was would the tester actually follow through and, you know, do the test and write the review. The only tool we had to determine that was forum activity - is the person reasonably active in the forum? As Brian mentioned, did they bother to complete a profile and include a picture? We also knew there were plenty of people whose only posts were to apply for testing opportunities (it's easy to check) - so basically if the only time you ever post is to apply for a testing opportunity, you're chances aren't great. 

Another way to seriously limit your chances is to whine or complain about not getting selected. Patience is a virtue, and participation counts. So no, you don't need 3,000 posts, but it helps your chances if you participate outside of simply applying for testing opportunities. 

With all that, we would make mistakes. I can remember a few instances (I'm sure you can, too @hckymeyer, when we selected testers who received the product and were never heard from again. That makes us look bad, so we have to make judgment calls. 

I can also say with certainty the new moderator team is carrying the torch beautifully, and is absolutely committed to making the process fair and inclusive. 

Ultimately, this is a community and it's here to serve as a 19th hole for golfers who enjoy talking about all things golf, and many things non-golf. I can remember applying for many testing opportunities in the old days, and not getting chosen. C'est la vie - it didn't damped my enjoyment of the community and my interaction with the people in it. I've gotten to know many of them personally and play golf with them on occasion, and that makes it all worthwhile. And when I did get chosen - to review the Cobra Amp Cell irons (was it that long ago??) - I made sure to do the best job I could. 

As others have said, "Pay to Play" is utter nonsense. If you want to be selected as a tester, trust is an important element. And the only way mods have of gauging trustworthiness is participation beyond applying to test opportunities. There's no "minimum post" nonsense, but since this isn't a "giveaway", activity does count. 

Many of us take way too long go realize that participation is key.

18 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

you can donate the $3000 to me. 

i don’t think it’ll improve your chances, but i’ll sure like you a whole lot more 

Can we splint those 3k? that sure will make me like you a lot more too.

17 hours ago, B.Boston said:

I can promise you that I have donated significantly less than $3K.  I also am on here, probably more than I should be and like to share about my experiences on and off the course, or just talk about random things with other members.  

This while from long before I was on this site still holds a lot of truth in how testers are selected:

I see you're still pretty new (by post count or rep) despite joining before me back in 2015.  I'd encourage you to go check out some of the on-going threads in the spy chat section of the forums:

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/forum/88-spy-chat/

There's always something going on in there and its a great way for everyone to get to know you and your game, which will only help the mods learn about you and how you could be a good tester.

If I donate 3k at once and it is not going to St Jude, my wife is probably making me sleep on the back yard.

I have also donate way less than 3k here and had not donated yet when I was picked for my 1st testing opportunity.

16 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

I'll second (or third) what some of the previous mods mentioned: I don't think any of us have ever had any knowledge whatsoever of how much anyone has donated. All of that information is kept on the blog end; the forum mods and admins do not have access to it. We add the "Donor" badge to those who ask for it; we generally ask for people send us their donation ID before adding the badge, but not the amount of the donation.

We actually address this question directly in the FAQ page. In general, we look at donor status after we have looked at members who have checked all the other boxes. Depending on the test, we're looking for 1) international testers and 2) lefties (these tend to get bumped to the front of the line on any test that is open to them, because we know that they're restricted from a lot of tests). Sometimes we're looking to cover certain handicap ranges or equipment comps (e.g., a GPS device where the OEM wants a comparison with someone who uses a laser).

Only after going through all the other criteria do we typically consider donor status as a tiebreaker.

The donations being more of a tie break should also tell you that the mods are looking for quality first.

15 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

I'm going to chime in here and agree with what others have said and 

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I think the main criteria is to be invested in the community here. I've said many times before, I joined because of the opportunity to test equipment and found a place to talk about this game and life in general with a great group of folks. That's worth more than any testing opportunity, imho. 

I'd encourage you to stick around and become involved, this is a great place to hang out. 

 

Indeed it is, I have made a lot of friends here, some that I have not yet met in person, but that I consider good friends nonetheless, and quite honestly care a lot for.

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12 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

The bolded part is huge. MGS has had some amazing testing opportunities for very high end gear, and I've never tossed my hat into the ring. Why? Because they wouldn't work for me. Why would I waste the OEM's money and the forums time testing something that I couldn't give an honest, fair review of? I know some people like to apply for every opportunity and it's a numbers game. For me, in the years I've been here, I was able to test & review two things that I was able to use on the course and give an honest assessment of. I think too many people overlook all the great points you made when it comes to testing & review opportunities. 

Completely agree....  I look at the item to be tested to see if it even applied to me and i consider how much time I would currently have to put into testing the item before I decide to apply as a tester.  

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15 minutes ago, xOldBenKenobiX said:

Can we splint those 3k? that sure will make me like you a lot more too.

and here i thought we were already best friends 

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4 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

and here i thought we were already best friends 

**writes check while crying**

I didnt know we were best friends.
Dont worry about money.

 

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Lots of great input here. I really don't have much to add, but thought I might try to provide an example of what "engagement" looks like. 

*Disclaimer* I am not now, nor have I ever been a forum mod. I'm just speaking to what I've experienced, and what I personally would like to see on a commitment level from anyone selected for testing.

Going through your activity I can see you've participated in some great discussions, but some of it honestly comes across as just surface level engagement. Of the posts I looked at, the one that shows the most thought, the most personality, and the most commitment; the one post that truly gives other members an idea of who you are is your WITB (nice setup BTW!). Those are the kinds of posts that will help your case in testing applications IMO.

The MGS forums - probably more so than any other forum I've been a member of - is all about building a community of like-minded individuals. We're all golf nerds who love the game and the many nuances of it; from how it's played at the amateur and professional levels, to rules discussion, to every piece of golf equipment in your bag, in your garage, and even hiding out in that junk drawer in the kitchen. If it pertains to golf, we geek out over it in these forums and along the way we reveal what gets us excited, what makes us frustrated or angry, and (hopefully) we evolve in our knowledge, our perceptions, and build some friendships.

I've had the pleasure of getting to meet some fellow spies and play golf with them. Those experiences have shown me we truly have some of the best people participating in discussion here and we can all learn from each other. If you seek community first, you'll find much more value in this forum than getting some free gear to review, but perhaps you'll also find yourself on the receiving end of some incredible testing opportunities. 

Best of luck!

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There is not much more I can add to this topic. I think the point has been clearly made by all.

But one thing I would recommend is that you do an un-official review of a product that you came across and found interesting enough to purchase.  Do a good review and post it. This way everyone can see what you are capable of evaluating. It also shows your writing style and such. I'm doing an un-official review right now on a very unique golf glove. I am also doing the Maxfli Tour and Tour X golf ball official review. 

Be selective! If you not going to use the item, don't apply. If and when you do get selected, do a good job and be honest with your evaluation. You have to remember that other people are making decisions based on your review. 

 

  

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