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As stated above I have seen Sim2 Max drivers with both a 16g back weight in some and a 24g back weight in others and the question is why the difference?

Is is a function of trying to reach a specific swing weight for a given shaft and or loft?

What ball flight change would be seen if the 16g back weight is changed out for a 24g weight, assuming all other factors remain the same?

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The more weight you move away from the face the increase in MOI (forvigness).  You should expect slightly slower swing speed but increase in launch and a spin, with a potential for ball speed increase. Essensially you will see the ball go higher.  Hope that helps.

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Like @twyatt700 said. I am adding 5g to my max ls for that purpose and to see if I can straighten my hook a smidge. 

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I added 8g of lead tape to the toe of my Sim Max 2. For me it helped two issues:

1) I was playing a slightly shorter shaft than stock, so it got the swing weight back up to D4

2) more toe weight = less snappy hooks

So it was a double win for me. 

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2 hours ago, thefullmonte said:

What’s the best way to measure swing weight.  I’ve been given an optimal swing weight from a fitter before…but I don’t know how to measure current equipment to see how it’s comparing to that

There are some online calculators based on the component weights; they seem to be inaccurate.   The best way is a. Swing weight scale.  

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9 hours ago, thefullmonte said:

What’s the best way to measure swing weight.  I’ve been given an optimal swing weight from a fitter before…but I don’t know how to measure current equipment to see how it’s comparing to that

 

6 hours ago, cnosil said:

There are some online calculators based on the component weights; they seem to be inaccurate.   The best way is a. Swing weight scale.  

Yep, you can go to any DSC with a golf services and they can check it for you, or any other place that does club repair/fitting. 

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I emailed Tayormade and got an answer back from them that was/was not  on point.  The email said that the 16g back weight was standard for the Sim2 driver and the 24g back weight was standard for the Sim2 Max driver.  A look at their web page pictures proves this point on the two drivers.  The Sim2 Max driver that I got new and walked out of the store with had a 16g back weight in it ????!!!!!

Maybe someone in the shop was goofing around and changing shafts and heads and back weights for a fitting but who knows.  Anyway a buddy of mine has the Sim2 Max driver also and today I met him at our outdoor driving range and I was able to change out the weights back and forth.  The screw that holds in the back weight requires a T10 wrench but not big deal.  I did notice that the 16g weight I took our of my Sim2 Max had been blue lock tite on it!!!!!!

I changed out the weight to the 24g version and hit a bunch of balls.  They did seem to be a wee bit higher and even spin more but hard to tell.  After a bucket of going back and forth with the weights, I decided to stick with the 16g and feel lucky that it was in the one I bought.

It does make sense that a "MAX" made and marketed head would have the 24g weight for more forgiveness and height.  If you are looking for a wee bit of adjusting on your Sim 2 Max head maybe a 16g weight would be something to check out.  They are readily available on Ebay for $18-20.

SIM2 Max Driver 10.5* Ventus 5-S

Cobra Rad Speed 3W 14.5* Evenflow Riptide CB Stiff

Ping G  4W 17.5* Ping Alta Reg

TM Ti  5W 19* Diamana FW 65 Reg

Titleist T-300 5-PW Amt Red Stiff

Vokey SM7 Wedges 46*  56*  60*

Ping Zing/Anser putter  85020/85029// TM Spider SR#9 Flo Neck

Titleist Pro V-1x 

 

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I purchased a Sim 2 Max, with a very light 40gram senior shaft, and it came with a 16gram back weight. I am certain this light shaft has something to do with how much back weight is added. Maybe?? The original poster never addressed which shaftS were in which clubs.

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