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2 minutes ago, Shankster said:

Don’t miss hit the left dash.  They are like hitting pieces of cement to begin with.

I tend to favor high-compression (a/k/a “hard”) golf balls, but the Left Dash are a few compression points higher than the 96 to 98 compression balls (Snell MTB-X and Maxfli TourX) that I currently favor.

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3 minutes ago, funkyjudge said:

I tend to favor high-compression (a/k/a “hard”) golf balls, but the Left Dash are a few compression points higher than the 96 to 98 compression balls (Snell MTB-X and Maxfli TourX) that I currently favor.

Well I hope they work for you.  I prefer marshmallows.  Haha.  
 

If the Duo Soft was better around the green I would probably use it.  Like hitting a bouncy ball.

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2 hours ago, funkyjudge said:

Those are two of the balls that I have been playing regularly for the last 14 months (I’ve actually played the MTB-X for more than three years, and I was a tester for OnCore when they brought out the Vero X1 prototype last summer).  The other ball that I like a lot is the 2021 Maxfli TourX CG.  I want to see if either the ProV1 Left Dot or ProV1x Left Dash provides any type of performance advantage for me over these balls.

I’ve tried left dash. Great distance. Couldn’t hold a green worth anything. YMMV. 

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Mine says it will be here Saturday, so I will have it for my holiday weekend rounds. 

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I've got 2 dozen arriving Saturday. I will see how they compare to the left dash...which I ordered another dozen as well. 

The left dash is a beast off the tee and really solid the fairway on full shots, but it lacks the typical Pro V1/V1x spin around the green. A tight pin that requires a precise flop shot sees a lot more run out than I'd like. I'm hoping the left dot fills that need. 

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12 hours ago, funkyjudge said:

Those are two of the balls that I have been playing regularly for the last 14 months (I’ve actually played the MTB-X for more than three years, and I was a tester for OnCore when they brought out the Vero X1 prototype last summer).  The other ball that I like a lot is the 2021 Maxfli TourX CG.  I want to see if either the ProV1 Left Dot or ProV1x Left Dash provides any type of performance advantage for me over these balls.

I'm really interested in your comparison between the Vero and the Left Dot. I think they're very similar with Vero being a little lower spin (for me). It's difficult for me to say much about feel since I think the Vero feels completely different depending on what club you're using (firm with driver, soft with wedges) and the Left Dot is all-around soft. Greenside, these both should do very well. MTB-X should play completely different though. It's firm and relatively high spin.

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1 hour ago, Tsecor said:

i must have been one of the 1st guys to seccure an order (840am yesterday) but i havent received a ship notificaton yet......getting nervous....

That’s about when I placed my order.  I got a confirmation of the order from Acushnet, but no shipment notification.

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I saw these. Interesting and pretty player specific release. I am not the person that this ball would fit. I need more launch not less. The left dash is actually a great ball for me. 

 

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I play the Titleist Pro V1x because once, some time ago, I got a dozen as a gift and played well with them.

That's as technical as I usually get.

Launch monitors--and I do NOT deny their usefulness--nonetheless give me a rash.

But Titleist is now making what--I believe four versions of the Pro V1?  More?

Short of taking all of them to the aforementioned and dreaded launch monitor, is there some way of ascertaining, or at least guessing,

 which one might actually be best for my game?   

What I know about what I'm playing now is that it never once enters my mind while playing it.  

Maybe best to just stick with it, then, but all of the new left and right dots and dashes make me wonder if it's all actually legit.

 

 

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1 minute ago, BostonSal said:

I play the Titleist Pro V1x because once, some time ago, I got a dozen as a gift and played well with them.

That's as technical as I usually get.

Launch monitors--and I do NOT deny their usefulness--nonetheless give me a rash.

But Titleist is now making what--I believe four versions of the Pro V1?  More?

Short of taking all of them to the aforementioned and dreaded launch monitor, is there some way of ascertaining, or at least guessing,

 which one might actually be best for my game?   

What I know about what I'm playing now is that it never once enters my mind while playing it.  

Maybe best to just stick with it, then, but all of the new left and right dots and dashes make me wonder if it's all actually legit.

 

 

launch monitors are not gospel and it captures data at the point of impact and thats it.....all the rest is computated garbage....

i go tyo PGA SS and hit the monitor and it says i drive it 305-320 with roll......yea ok.....i get to the course and i hit it 270-275...280 with a generous roll or perfect strike....

generally most balls end up going the same distance, within a few yards, so its the stuff around the green that comes into play for most people. 

for me, i have to like it off the tee before i do anything else with the ball....so trajectory and feel mean the most with distance 3rd.....if i get the trajectory and distance i like, feel moves down the want list....

if the driver or tee shot is good for me, i know the irons will follow suit....

then i need a ball that can work from 50 yards and in.....if i can stop a ball with minimal spin, i have a winner....most balls claim 1000's of RPMs off the wedge but with such short shots, the ball only spins a few times in a 3 second shot.... so if i can stop it reasonably how i like, then it goes in the bag.....putting is all feel for the most part but if i get everything else i need, then once again putter feel becomes secondary....results are everything.....its taken me forever to get past the "feel" mental block and when i hit the Left Dash off the tee, i love it.....a few months ago i hated it but the results i got off the tee were tremendous....

you just have to play a ball to really lock it in but im right there with you....launch monitors are for the guys who like to analyze data for themselves...im more about playability and results not launch angle.....i could care less if the ball launches at 16 degrees vs 12.....if the ball goes 280, im good....i dont need it to go 284...

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5 minutes ago, BostonSal said:

I play the Titleist Pro V1x because once, some time ago, I got a dozen as a gift and played well with them.

That's as technical as I usually get.

Launch monitors--and I do NOT deny their usefulness--nonetheless give me a rash.

But Titleist is now making what--I believe four versions of the Pro V1?  More?

Short of taking all of them to the aforementioned and dreaded launch monitor, is there some way of ascertaining, or at least guessing,

 which one might actually be best for my game?   

What I know about what I'm playing now is that it never once enters my mind while playing it.  

Maybe best to just stick with it, then, but all of the new left and right dots and dashes make me wonder if it's all actually legit.

 

 

They have 5 versions of the prov ball 2 of which are recently released tour only balls and the left for being only a limited release which was even more limited than the left dash. There’s still one other tour only ball that I recall. The avx is another tour level ball but first carry the prov name.

As to your question the best way is to take them to the course and compare them side by side starting on the green, then some chips and pitches. Then some full swings with a short/mid iron then some longer clubs and finally off the tee. Note how they perform, sound, feel. Then based on your testing find that one that performs best overall. Some will perform better in certain areas than others. As to what ones to test if you wanted to narrow down to a few is to use the data from the Mgs ball study and see what ones fit into your game

Another option would be to find a titleist ball fitting and have them use the data from your swing.

A third option is to do a virtual ball fitting with Titleist.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Tsecor said:

aunch monitors are not gospel and it captures data at the point of impact and thats it.....all the rest is computated garbage....

i go tyo PGA SS and hit the monitor and it says i drive it 305-320 with roll......yea ok.....i get to the course and i hit it 270-275...280 with a generous roll or perfect strike....

generally most balls end up going the same distance, within a few yards, so its the stuff around the green that comes into play for most people. 

Claiming monitors are garbage based on possible juiced monitors in a place that sells clubs is a bit of a reach. Especially when you post about wanting to see what 500 rpm of spin on a short s*** doesnt and the only way to see that difference is with a monitor. 
 

And not all balls will be within a few yards for each other. I have tried most your level balls on the course side by side and I lose upwards of 1-1.5 clubs of distance between some of them off the the tee and with irons.  
 

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Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

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4 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

They have 5 versions of the prov ball 2 of which are recently released tour only balls and the left for being only a limited release which was even more limited than the left dash. There’s still one other tour only ball that I recall. The avx is another tour level ball but first carry the prov name.

As to your question the best way is to take them to the course and compare them side by side starting on the green, then some chips and pitches. Then some full swings with a short/mid iron then some longer clubs and finally off the tee. Note how they perform, sound, feel. Then based on your testing find that one that performs best overall. Some will perform better in certain areas than others. As to what ones to test if you wanted to narrow down to a few is to use the data from the Mgs ball study and see what ones fit into your game

Another option would be to find a titleist ball fitting and have them use the data from your swing.

A third option is to do a virtual ball fitting with Titleist.

 

 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Claiming monitors are garbage based on possible juiced monitors in a place that sells clubs is a bit of a reach. Especially when you post about wanting to see what 500 rpm of spin on a short s*** doesnt and the only way to see that difference is with a monitor. 
 

And not all balls will be within a few yards for each other. I have tried most your level balls on the course side by side and I lose upwards of 1-1.5 clubs of distance between some of them off the the tee and with irons.  
 

that wasnt the quote.....i said they are NOT GOSPEL.....and all the data once the ball leaves the face is computated to give a full picture of distance and dispersion....but on course play can be much different.

I probably should have stated most TOUR LEVEL balls are within a few yards of each other....if 5 yards is a half club, that makes sense but that is still within a few yards.....I think the ball test pretty much proves most balls fly within a few yards of each other

medium driver swing.....chromes soft X LS ....253 yards.......prov1 which is waaaaaaay down the list.....246......thats the point i was going for.  20 feet more distance....no big deal

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I have no complaints with the garden variety Pro V1x so there's probably no need to go experimenting.

My game is my game, and it's mostly based on past experience and which past tactical decisions resulted in rounds that were the most fun.

 

Our club has three wide open holes where I can spray long drives foul pole to foul pole  pretty much with impunity.

Those are the three holes where Big Dog gets to leave the bag and eat.  Other that that, I'm happy to slap driving iron shots safely into play.  

I know guys who'd rather give up the game than play like that.  That's cool too.  There are lots of ways to play and enjoy the game.  

But obviously, maximum length off the driver wouldn't be priority one. 

More important is confidence in clubbing myself from the fairway and on par 3s.  I want every ball to be exactly the same, which NEVER seemed to happen with wound balls, either surlyn or balata in the pre urethane era.

Also, I'm as bold hitting at greens as I am conservative hitting at landing areas.  Thus I short side myself more than enough times to keep things interesting.

I like to play my lob wedge shots in the air, the air being easier to read than the contours of the ground.  I want my ball to come down and stay there like an egg landing and breaking on concrete.  That isn't always going to happen as planned, trust me, but it happens just often enough for me to enjoy playing.

With these things being my priority, I'm fine with Pro V1x performance.  No need to experiment, but I was curious as to what the new variants are supposed to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tsecor said:

that wasnt the quote.....i said they are NOT GOSPEL.....and all the data once the ball leaves the face is computated to give a full picture of distance and dispersion....but on course play can be much different.

I probably should have stated most TOUR LEVEL balls are within a few yards of each other....if 5 yards is a half club, that makes sense but that is still within a few yards.....I think the ball test pretty much proves most balls fly within a few yards of each other

medium driver swing.....chromes soft X LS ....253 yards.......prov1 which is waaaaaaay down the list.....246......thats the point i was going for.  20 feet more distance....no big deal

The algorithms are far from garbage and give a pretty good indication of what a ball will do when it lands and the gc quad is more accurate than the trackman. There’s been enough discussion on this by txg and others. 
 

 

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Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

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57 minutes ago, BostonSal said:

I have no complaints with the garden variety Pro V1x so there's probably no need to go experimenting.

My game is my game, and it's mostly based on past experience and which past tactical decisions resulted in rounds that were the most fun.

 

Our club has three wide open holes where I can spray long drives foul pole to foul pole  pretty much with impunity.

Those are the three holes where Big Dog gets to leave the bag and eat.  Other that that, I'm happy to slap driving iron shots safely into play.  

I know guys who'd rather give up the game than play like that.  That's cool too.  There are lots of ways to play and enjoy the game.  

But obviously, maximum length off the driver wouldn't be priority one. 

More important is confidence in clubbing myself from the fairway and on par 3s.  I want every ball to be exactly the same, which NEVER seemed to happen with wound balls, either surlyn or balata in the pre urethane era.

Also, I'm as bold hitting at greens as I am conservative hitting at landing areas.  Thus I short side myself more than enough times to keep things interesting.

I like to play my lob wedge shots in the air, the air being easier to read than the contours of the ground.  I want my ball to come down and stay there like an egg landing and breaking on concrete.  That isn't always going to happen as planned, trust me, but it happens just often enough for me to enjoy playing.

With these things being my priority, I'm fine with Pro V1x performance.  No need to experiment, but I was curious as to what the new variants are supposed to do.

 

 

 

 

 

In comparison to the prov1x

The left dash is going to fly in the same window as the prov1x but have less spin

The new Prov1 has similar spin to the prov1x but will fly lower.

The left dot is going to spin less and fly lower than the prov1 and fits in between the Prov1 and the AVX.

The AVX is going to be the lowest spinning and lowest fly ball. 

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Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

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