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20 minutes ago, Tsecor said:

A little birdie told me another left dot release is coming.....no hard date tho

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1 hour ago, HeadJim said:

Is it just a right dot upside down

I believe they are for left handed golfers... 😉 

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So I put the dot in play today. Shot a personal best 86 on my home track. Caveat I had a great swing day....or was is the left dot?!?!?! 

Distance wise off the tee, I didn't see any significant distance difference compared to CSX LS. I did notice my tee shots were more straight/baby draw than more of the hooks I usually hit. So definitely better dispersion. Hit 8/13 fairways with the big stick, another PB. Trajectory was good for me. Not too high and not too low. 

Irons wedges and putter is where this shined for me. I was gaming the Bridgestone Tour B X for a bit as I loved the distance off the tee and irons, but the wedge feel and ability to hold greens left a lot to be desired for me. The switch to the CSX LS from Tour B X after the MGS ball test gave be the improved feel with the short clubs and was able to hold greens again. Drop and a couple hops sometimes a little roll. The Left Dot just felt so buttery off the club face. Hit some of my best iron shots today. I held greens drop and stop (within 2ft from ball marks) with 7i from 165-170 out through my wedges. Yet another PB with 8/18 GIRs. Putter roll of the left dot was true and smooth and I felt like the ball was easy to maintain speed control with little stroke effort, whereas the CSX LS for me has a little more pop and firmness off the putter face resulting in working a little more to control speed. 

I'll continue to alternate rounds at my home track with the CSX LS to get a better feel with misses. 

 

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On 9/13/2021 at 8:25 AM, Tsecor said:

ok, so here is my update after playing the left dot and bxs for 18 holes each.....i wanted to test the left dot again and do a direct comparison to the BXS. I will say i had a very good "swing weekend" where i felt fluid and loose....i made very good contact on most shots and i am glad because when i am not swinging well, its hard to tell if a ball is good or bad for you.

2021 BXS - the previous version did not work for me at all....waaaaay too much spin and it was a balloon ball.  The 2021 version is very different off the driver as its very obvious they engineered the spin rates to be lower.  The feel of this ball is very nice....I hit it well, but my dispersion off the driver was worse than i hoped for. I usually play a baby draw off the driver and if i missed this just slightly, it flew 20 yards off center and with the roll out, it made it even worse. Its not a super long ball for me either. I usually can get 260-275 out of my driver and this was about where i was with this ball....my yardages average 265 for the mnost part according to the range finder.  Mid iron shots were fine, very comparable to many other balls out there. Nothing too spectacular or nothing bad. Its a very consistent ball off the irons. on 7 or 8 iron shots into the green, it performed fine. i was hitting it wekk and the trajectory was not my ideal, but it wasnt bad. I just felt i had to give it a little extra oompff to get it to the hole.  Around the green (30 yards and in), it performed very well. I really lioke this ball in the short game. It checks up nicely and i felt comfortable getting up and down with the BXS.  my conslusion is, i could play this ball and be fine with it, but it wouldnt make my top 3 balls for the year. It reminds me of the new TP5x. its a solid ball, just not spectacular for me or anything different. It does its job and has a few hilights, but overall its a bit "boring"  if that makes any sense. The feel is great but visually, i have issues.....I really do not like the logo or the dual dimple design. Looking down at the ball, it bothers me slightly.....i know thats insane and i have to get over that but hard clicky balls really bothers me too, and i was able to get past that this summer. out of a scale of 1-10 id give this ball 7.5 or an 8. 

Left dot -  The first time i played this ball, i was unimpressed because i expected it to be the unicorn ball......after using it for a ful 18 holes, i have to say the ball is different that the 1st time i played it.  I know all the talk is to put it in between the AVX and the Prov1 but i have to be honest, i think that is a horrible slotting. TO ME, this ball belongs in between the V1x and left dash or possibly in between the V1 and v1x. This ball from a feel perspective feels more like its in between the v1x and left dash. It feel firmer than the v1x but feels closer to the v1x than the left dash. The balls trajectory is much lower than the left dash but really explodes off the driver. I have to be honest. The left dash is a beast off the driver and the left dot turned out to be better and longer.....i dont know what is in the ball but i hit 4 drives at 300 yards or slightly better. I NEVER hit 300 yards. I had one with the left dash a few weeks back but the left dot rewarded me with multiple drives at 295-305. When you flush this ball off the tee, its trajecctory and peak height is literally perfect. FOR ME, its the perfect flight.....this ball is the unicorn ball off the tee as far as feel, trajectory and distance. As i said earlier, i was swinging really good this weekend so that contributes, but even the guys i was playing with made comments. They had no idea i was testing out a new ball. I heard comments like "what the hell did you eat today?" and "Dude, thats over 300".  This is the best all around ball i have ever hit off the driver. Explosive is the term i will use.  even if i did not flush this in the middle of the face, it was very forgiving for me. Where the BXS would really spin "out of control" for me, the left dot seemed to fly 50% less off center.....on similar strikes i was aligned closer to the center of the fairway than the bxs....sometimes by 30 feet.  The iron play was a little different than the driver experience. This is where the ball comes back to reality a bit more. Its still long and still hits the trajectory window, but for me, the ball does not hold the greens as well as i had hoped. One example of this was a 6 iron shot from 178. I hit it really good and was right at the pin which was tucked in the back left corner. The shot looked beautiful off the club, flew in the window i really like. I saw the ball hit and from that distance it looked like a great result. I approached the green, saw the ball mark which was ~ 18 feet from the hole and the ball ended up rolling past the pin and off the back side of the green. I was only 10 feet from the hole and got up and down for par but the dstance from initial green contact to resting spot was almost 30 feet. That shocked me.

The very next hole was a par 3, ~150 yards. I hit an 8 iron and lifted it very high as the pin was tucked in front right corner.  It landed 15 feet from the hole and stopped because the angle of descent was very high. I feel you need to hit it higher on approach shots to limit the roll out. For me, i had multiple shots into the green with 6-8 irons that resulted in longer roll outs than other balls.  not that its bad, but i had to adjust my shots a little bit to account for this.  from 30 yards and in, the ball did not perform like a prov1...it performed more like the left dash. Its not bad, but in direct comparison to a prov1 or the BXS, the left dot is not as comfortable for me in getting up and down if needed.  If i were to play this ball full time, i would need to make some adjustments in the short game....the amount of distance i get off the tee, it may be worth it. 

Anyway, putting with the left dot was great. Its a nice firm feel, but not clicky feel off a GSS Mills putter.  you get what you put into it. I liked it.

In conclusion, I feel the left dot is a really good ball and for the last few weeks of fall golf, i have to decide if this is my ball moving forward.....the distance off the tee is almost intoxicating for me, like the left dash.....its a much better all around ball then the left dash but does have some issues with roll out for me...i would say the left dot is a nicer all around version of the left dash. To me, its nothing close to the avx and i feel the slotting near the AVX is misleading because to me the AVX fee is 100% different, the trajectories are much different and the left dot flies much further than AVX.  

For me, the top 2 balls of 2021 are the Chromesoft X and the Left dot....... 

the CSX is the better all around ball, especially sticking the greens with 7-pw, but its shorter off the tee by 10-15 yards when both are hit in similar ways. So its a question of length vs control.   

Can i adjust to the left dot's characteristics around the green or do i take less distance off the tee and use a better all around ball from 180 yards and in?    

Sorry for the long drawn out post. I think id be happy playing both balls with the regualr prov1 coming in 3rd.

CSX vs Left Dot......hmmmmmm.......

i guess ill have to play more golf to really lock it in 😉     sorry honey, scientific testing is needed through the fall. 

 

If I’m you and I’m taking a full club less into greens, so higher launch and peak height, less spin needed, then I’m  selecting Left Dot. If you’re going to hit them 295-300, there aren’t many par 4s where you’ll be hitting more than a 7 iron, even an 8. I’m taking the tee distance and then adjusting my iron choice based on what additional roll-out you’ve seen.

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30 minutes ago, PMookie said:

If I’m you and I’m taking a full club less into greens, so higher launch and peak height, less spin needed, then I’m  selecting Left Dot. If you’re going to hit them 295-300, there aren’t many par 4s where you’ll be hitting more than a 7 iron, even an 8. I’m taking the tee distance and then adjusting my iron choice based on what additional roll-out you’ve seen.

Im thinking the same. Not sure how many more drives i will hit like i did because that distance is certainly NOT the norm for me. But i have to say the distance was a bit shocking ...i am not sure ive ever used a piece of equipment that resulted in an immediate gain like that before.....

The only piece of sports equipment i remember using that had the same impact was a Double wall DiMarini softball bat.....i went from a singles and doubles hitter to hitting opposite field home runs just with a bat switch.....they outlawed that bat in our leagues and i can see why.....

Im playing tomorrow so im gonna try the left dot as much as i can...playing a real tough links course, so fingers crossed. It could be a tough day

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Picked up a dozen yesterday.  Will put them in play week after next.  Am testing a couple of sleeves of test balls next week.  3s and 4s.  

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I put the Left Dot into play yesterday and compared it to the Left Dash...

Left Dot is great for windy and firm conditions. They also fly a few yards further on the short irons, but are about 7-10 yards shorter off the driver and 3W. They launch lower and spin a bit more so the wind doesn't hit them as much. It's not a drastic difference between the dot and dash, but it might be enough to be the difference between hitting the edge of the green or being in the greenside rough. Greenside spin was great. 

Left Dash is great for calmer and softer conditions. A beast off the tee but a tad shorter off the 8-GW on full swings. You'll see the wind hit this ball a bit more than the dot because of the lack of spin. The wind was only 4-8mph yesterday but every shot required me to know wind direction. You do need to play a little bit more roll out on chips, but if the greens are receptive, they still have some good bite to them. I had a couple chips off the fairway to a tucked pin with a lob wedge and I was able to see a hop and stop going into the grain. 

For now, I'll keep playing the Left Dash. The courses near Houston are still on the soft side with grainy bermuda greens. The course I played yesterday had greens that were resurfaced about a year ago and were a little on the firm side. While I didn't see the left dash have a big release on full shots into the green, I did see better stopping power with the left dot. If I ever see these courses dry out due to a drought, I'll switch to the left dot and adjust my yardages accordingly. 

Either ball is fantastic if you need a lower spinning tour ball. 

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Played the left dot once again in my league championship.....finished 5th out of 25, 4 shots from the win.....pulled a double on 18 or elase I would have finished 2nd. The winner played the best round of his life and completely deserved to win.....putted his butt off and birdied the 1&2 hdcp holes.  i parred both, one with a 35 foot putt, so it could have been worse for me......this guy mastered the course like a pro

This was a tough links course.....the ball performed perfectly......i even had long drive of the day as this was measured on a long par 5. 317 with the wind and roll out. That is huge for me.....

this is basically the closest thing to a game changer for me....i still like the CSX slightly better around the green....basically 20 yards and in....but i can adjust......

im all in on the left dot and csx......if left dot is available, thats my ball....if not, ill go with csx.....

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Whenever the body lets me, I have 12 Left Dots and 12 V1’s to do a head to head.  Might be a while.  
 

good to hear you guys are liking them.

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18 hours ago, Tsecor said:

..if left dot is available, thats my ball..

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17 hours ago, Shankster said:

Whenever the body lets me, I have 12 Left Dots and 12 V1’s to do a head to head.  Might be a while.  
 

good to hear you guys are liking them.

do u need all 12? ;)

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On 9/21/2021 at 9:24 AM, Tiftaaft said:

+1

Just curious if anyone else received the left dot survey from Titleist?  

I take this as a good sign for future mainstream availability.  My survey is submitted.  

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54 minutes ago, Tiftaaft said:

Just curious if anyone else received the left dot survey from Titleist?  

I take this as a good sign for future mainstream availability.  My survey is submitted.  

They did this for the exp-01 ball and iirc left dash. It’s how they evaluate what to do. As we saw with the exp ball it don’t come retail. Iirc some of the tech was out into the non prov/avx release last year

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24 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

They did this for the exp-01 ball and iirc left dash. It’s how they evaluate what to do. As we saw with the exp ball it don’t come retail. Iirc some of the tech was out into the non prov/avx release last year

Last question on the survey... would you buy this ball if it were available as your Gamer (paraphrased)  I chose yes.  

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12 hours ago, Tiftaaft said:

Just curious if anyone else received the left dot survey from Titleist?  

Survey submitted as well. I’d have no problems making The Dot my gamer.

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