chisag Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 58 minutes ago, Tiftaaft said: It is human nature to cringe a little when your playing partner hits an "8 iron" and you are standing next to him with a 6 iron in your hand.... granted, my swing speed is a club slower, and his loft is a club+ stronger - but it is still a bit of an ego thing. But on the other hand, I am carrying a 3 iron, and his set stops at 5... so I can play the ego card back at him, haha. ... Maybe human nature but I have always felt ego is mostly displaced. My son was a first team all conference DE in college and anytime a tackle or QB trash talked him he just smiled, rarely responding but if he did say something it was simply "Scoreboard" because they were almost always ahead. Score trumps anything else. ... I would also include David Mamet advice A-B-C ... A Always ... B Be ... C Closing. Always Be Closing. What anyone hits is irrelevant if you beat them. I could even make the argument it is more enjoyable to hit a 6i and record a birdie while your opponent uses an 8i to make par or even better, a bogie. Has to be frustrating for them. Golf always was and always will be about writing the lowest number in a box, because there is no box to check for what loft you used or how you did it, just write in a number. Clubs are merely tools (amazingly fun tools ) to help you accomplish a task. ... Lots of threads on how to shoot lower scores or how to get to single digits. Increase your strengths and improve your weaknesses, hit fairways and greens and when you don't, get up and down. Amazingly simple and thinking about what someone else hits is just a distraction. So when your buddies are on the tee of a par 3 instead of worrying about which club they are hitting: silver & black, noodle3872, cnosil and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli/ Maxfli Tour/TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, chisag said: ... Maybe human nature but I have always felt ego is mostly displaced. My son was a first team all conference DE in college and anytime a tackle or QB trash talked him he just smiled, rarely responding but if he did say something it was simply "Scoreboard" because they were almost always ahead. Score trumps anything else. ... I would also include David Mamet advice A-B-C ... A Always ... B Be ... C Closing. Always Be Closing. What anyone hits is irrelevant if you beat them. I could even make the argument it is more enjoyable to hit a 6i and record a birdie while your opponent uses an 8i to make par or even better, a bogie. Has to be frustrating for them. Golf always was and always will be about writing the lowest number in a box, because there is no box to check for what loft you used or how you did it, just write in a number. Clubs are merely tools (amazingly fun tools ) to help you accomplish a task. ... Lots of threads on how to shoot lower scores or how to get to single digits. Increase your strengths and improve your weaknesses, hit fairways and greens and when you don't, get up and down. Amazingly simple and thinking about what someone else hits is just a distraction. So when your buddies are on the tee of a par 3 instead of worrying about which club they are hitting: Well said Chisag. Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNUte Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 20 hours ago, chisag said: ... Maybe human nature but I have always felt ego is mostly displaced. My son was a first team all conference DE in college and anytime a tackle or QB trash talked him he just smiled, rarely responding but if he did say something it was simply "Scoreboard" because they were almost always ahead. Score trumps anything else. ... I would also include David Mamet advice A-B-C ... A Always ... B Be ... C Closing. Always Be Closing. What anyone hits is irrelevant if you beat them. I could even make the argument it is more enjoyable to hit a 6i and record a birdie while your opponent uses an 8i to make par or even better, a bogie. Has to be frustrating for them. Golf always was and always will be about writing the lowest number in a box, because there is no box to check for what loft you used or how you did it, just write in a number. Clubs are merely tools (amazingly fun tools ) to help you accomplish a task. ... Lots of threads on how to shoot lower scores or how to get to single digits. Increase your strengths and improve your weaknesses, hit fairways and greens and when you don't, get up and down. Amazingly simple and thinking about what someone else hits is just a distraction. So when your buddies are on the tee of a par 3 instead of worrying about which club they are hitting: And that's the beauty of golf. There's a starting point (the tee box) and an end point (the hole), and a million different ways to get from one to the other which allows everyone to tailor the path to their game. I never ask my playing partners what they're hitting not just cause their distances are different but also cause they might be playing a particular shot that changes their stock yardage with that club. Instead, I ask them how they see the hole and how they're approaching their shot. That at least gives me glimpses of some things I might have missed (e.g. a particular ridge or hazard) without locking my head into their distance or shape plan. chisag, cnosil and GolfSpy TCB 3 Quote Rag tag bag, but it does the job. Taylormade R1 driver. Ping G400 3 wood. Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid. Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58). Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bachman Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 On 9/22/2021 at 12:52 PM, McGolf said: Got them in hand for a quick look see, The blade is nice. Clean as blades usually are. not much you can do with the design but they always look good the 223 is certainly an upgrade in appearance compared to the MP20 MMC. I like the new cavity appearance and the fact they are not afraid to say they now have a GW. The 225 although looks familiar, is a short blade length for a more compact head specifically at the lower end. My opinion would be the design was changed to flow though combo sets easier and give the over all set a higher level players look. The wedges will be an upgrade to the last model too with the addition of the copper head. Unfortunately LEFTIES are not part of that plan. However the 223 is. So there's that. I play the MMCs and I’m beginning to think that I’m the only one who thinks they’re beautiful. The short irons don’t look large and clunky IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bachman Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Oh I’m interested, but just got the MMCs last year and don’t need to change what I’m hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartrick11 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Hit a bucket today with the 223. After three years with my Cobra CBs I have gotten used to their size but it kind of shocked me how small they are compared to the 223! The heft of the 223 sole scared me a bit but they bevel really does it’s job; I was going in and out of the turf nicely with it. Feel is great out of the middle and feedback is easily detectable. Not 100% sold yet until trying other shafts (today used the LS 6.5 which seemed a bit much for me) but leaning toward a 4-P set; should get a bit more forgiveness than the current gamers at the very least! TMAG-FIREMEDIC, bens197, mchiller and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: TSi 3 10* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X Fairway/Hybrid: TSi 2 15* & 18* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X, AD IZ 95X Irons: P790 4i, P770 5-7i, P7MC 8-P, $ Taper 120 Wedges: SM7 52F/54 S, 58 M w/ Modus 125 Putter: California Hollywood 34" Circle H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjeffs12 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Well I tried the 223’s in my fit, and they were really good. I had a very small dispersion circle, even though they were hit the least consistent of the 4 I tried(ZX7,JPX tour, and Apex Pro). Very forgiving, just was able to find the middle better with the ZX7’s, which gave me slightly better numbers. I think the 223’s will be a huge hit this year. Quote STEALTH 2+ 10.5* FUJIKURA VENTUS TR BLACK 6X ZX MKII 3W 15* Project X HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX U.S.A. 8TX Stealth+ 19 Mitsubishi Tensei Pro White 1K 85TX ZX7 4-PW KBS $Taper 130 BLACK PVD RTX 6 Zipcore 50/54.10 Full Project X 6.0 GLIDE 4.0 60.10S DYNAMIC GOLD TOUR ISSUE S400 ER2v MIDLOCK 40” TOUR X NX9 with Slope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Golfspy_CG2 Posted February 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2022 Well, it was a good week for me delivery wise, the two drivers Monday and these today! Even though we still have patches of snow scattered all around our course and it's closed. I got out to the first hole took some pics and hit some shots. Event though it was a brisk 40 degees, slight breeze and hadn't swung a club in 6 weeks---is that enough excuses I liekd what I saw from these. Very nice solid feel, ball flight I'm hoping will be a bit higher when things warm up and I loosen up, but again they are not designed like my T300, anyone that continues to complain about loft jacking on GI, needs to come hit these and something tlike the T300 side by side, then they might might understand what the engineers are doing with lofts and design these days. Ok, enough of that beaten horse. I hit a few thin and got the expected loss of distance, but nothing that would put me in horrible condtion, maybe front of the green, if I was shooting for a middle of the green pin. The GW was my favorite by far, not because it was the easiest to hit...ha But the spin it gotr when it landed is somethig that you really look for in your wedge. It could have me laying back to 100 yards a lot more than trying to get within 50 or 60! Here's a few quick snapshots GolfSpy TCB, russtopherb, FWiater and 14 others 9 8 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 18 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Well, it was a good week for me delivery wise, the two drivers Monday and these today! Even though we still have patches of snow scattered all around our course and it's closed. I got out to the first hole took some pics and hit some shots. Event though it was a brisk 40 degees, slight breeze and hadn't swung a club in 6 weeks---is that enough excuses I liekd what I saw from these. Very nice solid feel, ball flight I'm hoping will be a bit higher when things warm up and I loosen up, but again they are not designed like my T300, anyone that continues to complain about loft jacking on GI, needs to come hit these and something tlike the T300 side by side, then they might might understand what the engineers are doing with lofts and design these days. Ok, enough of that beaten horse. I hit a few thin and got the expected loss of distance, but nothing that would put me in horrible condtion, maybe front of the green, if I was shooting for a middle of the green pin. The GW was my favorite by far, not because it was the easiest to hit...ha But the spin it gotr when it landed is somethig that you really look for in your wedge. It could have me laying back to 100 yards a lot more than trying to get within 50 or 60! Here's a few quick snapshots While they look amazing, I am excited to hear your thoughts when it's warm enough to wear less than 4 layers Thanks for the update! Golfspy_CG2 and GolfSpy_SHARK 2 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, bens197 said: While they look amazing, I am excited to hear your thoughts when it's warm enough to wear less than 4 layers Thanks for the update! Yeah, I'm looking forward tto that as well, and to be honest I was able to get down to two layers at one point But still nothing I could do about the creaky old body that has beenon the shelf for two months, although I have started a bit of a winter swinging program. bens197, cnosil and GolfSpy_SHARK 2 1 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 19 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Well, it was a good week for me delivery wise, the two drivers Monday and these today! Even though we still have patches of snow scattered all around our course and it's closed. I got out to the first hole took some pics and hit some shots. Event though it was a brisk 40 degees, slight breeze and hadn't swung a club in 6 weeks---is that enough excuses I liekd what I saw from these. Very nice solid feel, ball flight I'm hoping will be a bit higher when things warm up and I loosen up, but again they are not designed like my T300, anyone that continues to complain about loft jacking on GI, needs to come hit these and something tlike the T300 side by side, then they might might understand what the engineers are doing with lofts and design these days. Ok, enough of that beaten horse. I hit a few thin and got the expected loss of distance, but nothing that would put me in horrible condtion, maybe front of the green, if I was shooting for a middle of the green pin. The GW was my favorite by far, not because it was the easiest to hit...ha But the spin it gotr when it landed is somethig that you really look for in your wedge. It could have me laying back to 100 yards a lot more than trying to get within 50 or 60! Here's a few quick snapshots Those irons look great. Very envious. Just curious. Did you get the same shafts on your MIzz 223s as your T300s? Did you use the Mizz shaft fitting tool during your fitting? Quote TSR 3 9.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff U-510 19 Utility Iron HZDUS Smoke Black 6.0 Stiff 5-PW 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Scotty Special Select - Squareback 2 - 35” / Super Stroke Slim 3.0 Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Loyal MCC Plus 4 Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 21 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Well, it was a good week for me delivery wise, the two drivers Monday and these today! Even though we still have patches of snow scattered all around our course and it's closed. I got out to the first hole took some pics and hit some shots. Event though it was a brisk 40 degees, slight breeze and hadn't swung a club in 6 weeks---is that enough excuses I liekd what I saw from these. Very nice solid feel, ball flight I'm hoping will be a bit higher when things warm up and I loosen up, but again they are not designed like my T300, anyone that continues to complain about loft jacking on GI, needs to come hit these and something tlike the T300 side by side, then they might might understand what the engineers are doing with lofts and design these days. Ok, enough of that beaten horse. I hit a few thin and got the expected loss of distance, but nothing that would put me in horrible condtion, maybe front of the green, if I was shooting for a middle of the green pin. The GW was my favorite by far, not because it was the easiest to hit...ha But the spin it gotr when it landed is somethig that you really look for in your wedge. It could have me laying back to 100 yards a lot more than trying to get within 50 or 60! Here's a few quick snapshots SuWEET!! Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, KC Golf said: Those irons look great. Very envious. Just curious. Did you get the same shafts on your MIzz 223s as your T300s? Did you use the Mizz shaft fitting tool during your fitting? Thanks. No, I went with one of the stock shafts in the T300 the Tensei AMT Red. I did try the Recoil 680 during my fitting and they were very close in performance, but I figured I'd stick with the Tensei stock shaft to be able to offer feedback on the stock offerings. We don't have the shaft analyzer yet at our course, our fitting components should be coming pretty soon. BNewton51, bens197, revkev and 2 others 5 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 The more that I see them, the more that I like the looks of the 223's. bens197, Golfspy_CG2, GolfSpy TCB and 1 other 4 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 30 minutes ago, revkev said: The more that I see them, the more that I like the looks of the 223's. +1! bens197, edingc, Golfspy_CG2 and 1 other 4 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 37 minutes ago, revkev said: The more that I see them, the more that I like the looks of the 223's. Should I post even more pictures russtopherb, silver & black, KC Golf and 1 other 4 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 22 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Should I post even more pictures ... Like a preview of a comedy I saw of a young fat kid on the phone at football practice and said into his cell phone "Of course I want stuffed crust on my pizza, what kind of question is that?" GolfSpy TCB, Syks7, silver & black and 2 others 2 3 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli/ Maxfli Tour/TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Went to Roger Dunn to hit these. for me, the 223 was about 5-10 yards longer than the 225. I would have thought that would be the other way around. And the spin was about 1k more with the 225… I went to change to the 221 head and some guy jumped into the hitting bay I was in, so I didn’t get to hit the blade, but, I’m guessing it was about the same as my BH Icons. anyways, that’s my impressions from a very small sample of hits. Of course they all felt good as a Mizuno … now the other day I hit the Callaway apex pro, and I would say that it felt as good, if not better… unfortunately I don’t have any numbers on that club so I don’t have that comparison to share… Golfspy_CG2 and bens197 2 Quote TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Golfspy_CG2 Posted February 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, chisag said: ... Like a preview of a comedy I saw of a young fat kid on the phone at football practice that said into his cell phone "Of course I want stuffed crust on my pizza, what kind of question is that?" Our couse is under water right now s s it’s still coming down. So you have to settle for some not so great action shots. Ha GaDawg, Middler, FWiater and 7 others 8 2 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Should I post even more pictures No, you should talk to Mizuno about doing a MGS forum review. bens197, edingc and Golfspy_CG2 1 1 1 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 29 minutes ago, Sluggo42 said: for me, the 223 was about 5-10 yards longer than the 225. I would have thought that would be the other way around. And the spin was about 1k more with the 225… Spin is only part of the equation. You have to look at launch as well but also how much spin compared to launch. 1k more spin depending on launch could cause ballooning and that’s going to cause loss of distance Sluggo42 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juspoole Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Loving my T100S, but have to admit I do miss the feel of my Mizunos. I don't think there is enough to take me away from my current clubs, but I would like to give them a hit just to get a look. GolfSpy TCB, Golfspy_CG2 and GaDawg 3 Quote Driver: Mavrik Sub Zero 9* (Set to 10) Ventus Blue 6X 2 Hybrid: TSI3 Hybrid Tensei Blue 80 X (17.25*) 3 Hybrid 818 H2 Hybrid Hzrdus RDX Black 6.5 (20.5*) 4 Iron - T200 4 Iron Graphite Design Tour AD IZ X Hybrid Shaft Irons 5-PW: T100-S 5 - GW KBS Tour 130 X Gap/Sand Wedge: Vokey SM6 49* SM8 54* Lob Wedge: Jaws 5 Wedge 58* DG Tour Issue Stiff Putter: Phantom 5.5 34" Pro Platinum Newport 2 35" Taylormade Tour Black Spider 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, revkev said: No, you should talk to Mizuno about doing a MGS forum review. I've beaten that dead horse until there's hardl anything left. Unfortuntely they seemed to have enough product and money though to do a paid event on another site GaDawg 1 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWiater Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 On 2/3/2022 at 10:54 AM, Golfspy_CG2 said: Yeah, I'm looking forward tto that as well, and to be honest I was able to get down to two layers at one point But still nothing I could do about the creaky old body that has been on the shelf for two months, although I have started a bit of a winter swinging program. Clubs look great. Might be time to change up that signature? Can't wait to get my 225's and T-22's when they ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 19 hours ago, revkev said: No, you should talk to Mizuno about doing a MGS forum review. I support this Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 22 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Spin is only part of the equation. You have to look at launch as well but also how much spin compared to launch. 1k more spin depending on launch could cause ballooning and that’s going to cause loss of distance Now I’ll be the guy to admit that I’m not real savvy on how this all works. Which is a good reason for a real fitting vs. a Roger Dunn salesman who basically just resets the screen to show what happened, but isn’t capable of explaining what actually IS happening. He isn’t the guy who would say, “let’s try a different shaft that will counter that ballooning effect, etc…” At least not the guy that was there that day… I dunno, maybe some of them are capable. It was busy and when I stepped out to change heads, I lost the stall. they do have the Mizzy “cart”, with all the different shafts and heads. I wonder if I called and asked if they have “a guy”, if he could be competent… or maybe better to go to club champ for an iron fitting. But, I still believe that they are biased and possibly compensated to push certain clubs. In kind of a “winky winky” system. I’m not saying that’s what they do, it’s merely my own opinion based on nothing. (Wink wink)… perhaps I’m wrong, who knows… Quote TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sluggo42 said: Now I’ll be the guy to admit that I’m not real savvy on how this all works. Which is a good reason for a real fitting vs. a Roger Dunn salesman who basically just resets the screen to show what happened, but isn’t capable of explaining what actually IS happening. He isn’t the guy who would say, “let’s try a different shaft that will counter that ballooning effect, etc…” At least not the guy that was there that day… I dunno, maybe some of them are capable. It was busy and when I stepped out to change heads, I lost the stall. they do have the Mizzy “cart”, with all the different shafts and heads. I wonder if I called and asked if they have “a guy”, if he could be competent… or maybe better to go to club champ for an iron fitting. But, I still believe that they are biased and possibly compensated to push certain clubs. In kind of a “winky winky” system. I’m not saying that’s what they do, it’s merely my own opinion based on nothing. (Wink wink)… perhaps I’m wrong, who knows… That’s the downside of many of the box stores that don’t have a “tour fitting” offering like PGASS or 2ndswing does. You maybe find a competent fitter who understands the swing and the numbers and can explain them to the customer. There are some guys like that because they are supplementing their demo day income during the off-season. For a place like club champion it’s going to be hit or miss as well. Wherever one goes finding out who the fitter is and getting reviews on that person is best. CC isn’t biased towards a brand or two in my experience of them and reading other reviews. They are biased towards upcharge shafts but they will stay with stock offerings if requested. Imo indoor fittings aren’t ideal especially for irons. You don’t get a feel for how the club interacts with the turf and if it’s right for your swing or not. It takes a really good fitter to see your swing, understands what it’s doing and how it interacts with the turf. Ian explained that to @Golfspy_CG2when he did his iron fitting there. It’s why assuming a GI is good for high handicaps or slow swing speeds. Even the v sole on the srixons could be good or bad for a digger. My recommendation would be to find an outdoor fitter or wait for the demo day season to start then go to one of those. However if looking to buy sooner and indoor is the only option then look for a fitter that has really good reviews. Sluggo42 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, Sluggo42 said: But, I still believe that they are biased and possibly compensated to push certain clubs. In kind of a “winky winky” system. I’m not saying that’s what they do, it’s merely my own opinion based on nothing. (Wink wink)… perhaps I’m wrong, who knows… This is the risk you run into at any store. Sales staff and fitters get bonuses for selling certain brands and many are on staff for different manufacturers. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihonsei Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 On 1/8/2022 at 10:50 AM, cnosil said: Can't really judge clubs by how they look anymore. The new hollow body foam filled heads are now game improvement type clubs due to how they can move weight around. Yeah but Mizuno didn't pay for the plastic surgery. No injections here or with Ping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihonsei Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: That’s the downside of many of the box stores that don’t have a “tour fitting” offering like PGASS or 2ndswing does. You maybe find a competent fitter who understands the swing and the numbers and can explain them to the customer. There are some guys like that because they are supplementing their demo day income during the off-season. For a place like club champion it’s going to be hit or miss as well. Wherever one goes finding out who the fitter is and getting reviews on that person is best. CC isn’t biased towards a brand or two in my experience of them and reading other reviews. They are biased towards upcharge shafts but they will stay with stock offerings if requested. Imo indoor fittings aren’t ideal especially for irons. You don’t get a feel for how the club interacts with the turf and if it’s right for your swing or not. It takes a really good fitter to see your swing, understands what it’s doing and how it interacts with the turf. Ian explained that to @Golfspy_CG2when he did his iron fitting there. It’s why assuming a GI is good for high handicaps or slow swing speeds. Even the v sole on the srixons could be good or bad for a digger. My recommendation would be to find an outdoor fitter or wait for the demo day season to start then go to one of those. However if looking to buy sooner and indoor is the only option then look for a fitter that has really good reviews. It's worth the effort to find a fitter / builder that wants you to have the best fit equipment your shellin' out for! I would find someone at a club. https://www.mizunousa.com/us/store-locator?region=Golf It's worth a trip if necessary, with another person even, plan accordingly to make the best of it! Even for a small fee if not purchasing, you deserve full attention and feedback.....find it! Be Well/Stay Safe/Stay Happy!!! Edited February 6, 2022 by Nihonsei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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