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44 minutes ago, MattF said:

Disappointingly I was not fit into any of the MP's yesterday...however, I was fit into the JPX Hot Metals. They were just so consistent in distance and dispersion. 

That feeling stings a little.  Even if you did find something that just works so well there is that small part that wanted it so bad.

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3 hours ago, bens197 said:

That feeling stings a little.  Even if you did find something that just works so well there is that small part that wanted it so bad.

Absolutely, but it's a case of I want this but need those, so intelligence won over ego.

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On 5/24/2022 at 3:43 PM, Bigchill006 said:

Well, I jumped on the Mizuno band wagon! I went to be fitted for clubs back in February and I hit all 3 of the new line. The 221s felt great but I am not a scratch golfer so they were quite unforgiving for my swing. The 223s gave me a little more carry and were much more forgiving. The 225s gave me about the same carry as the 223s, but were just a tad more forgiving on a few mishits. I ordered a set (5-PW) of 225 with the Project X LZ shafts. They just came in a couple of days ago and I just finished hitting the range with them. I obviously haven't hit them much but so far I am extremely happy. I will be hitting the course in the next few days and I'll keep everyone updated! 

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Smart play here - hitting all options and not letting ego drive the decision 👍.  I suspect the 223 or 225's would be my best options.  Just starting a DIY build project to test out some various options. The plan is to pick out some 6i or 7i heads and shaft (or re-shaft) with either MMT or Recoil shafts which fit me well.  At some point, I'd love to find a Mizuno fitter and see what their "shaft analyzer" shows as my best fit... always been intrigued by that device.

I see that the MP-20HB is the predecessor to the 225, and the MP-20MMC the previous version of the 223. But, based on descriptions, much has changed between these releases - more so on the 223's.  I'm hoping to save a little $$ by choosing prior product cycle releases but, on some make/models, the differences may be too significant? 🤔

These sure look like a great set of options that should cover a wide span of players.  Nice job Mizuno 👏.

 

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Does anyone have feedback that purchased or had in depth fittings on the 225? I’ve scoured the thread pretty good and see that a lot of people went with the 223.  I know they won players distance this year and wanted to hear feedback from those that purchased or had in depth fittings? I’ve done some research about people making them a degree or so weaker to increase spin, especially since mizuno gave it less bounce to account for these possible change, so I’d love to hear everyone feedback

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3 hours ago, RollingGreens said:

Does anyone have feedback that purchased or had in depth fittings on the 225? I’ve scoured the thread pretty good and see that a lot of people went with the 223.  I know they won players distance this year and wanted to hear feedback from those that purchased or had in depth fittings? I’ve done some research about people making them a degree or so weaker to increase spin, especially since mizuno gave it less bounce to account for these possible change, so I’d love to hear everyone feedback

I put it in the mix with my 223 fitting and it did not last long.  The numbers were nearly the same for me 7 iron vs 7 iron which was a surprise.  Slightly less spin on the 225 and slightly longer but the amusing part was two things for me.

1) The peak trajectory was within 3 feet between the two (223 was slightly higher) 

2) The feel on the 225 was not even close to the 223.

Side by side, I saw no significant difference or reason to consider the 225 as a forgiving alternative to long irons.  6 months later I am still pleased with my decision; the 223 long irons are easy to hit and feel fantastic.

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1 minute ago, bens197 said:

2) The feel on the 225 was not even close to the 223. Side by side, I saw no significant difference or reason to consider the 225 as a forgiving alternative to long irons.  6 months later I am still pleased with my decision; the 223 long irons are easy to hit and feel fantastic.

 

 

... I just went through something very similar with my '22 Forged Tecs and MIM's. I played my last round with even irons FT and odd irons MIM and the difference during an actual round was pretty obvious. To be fair I think the i95's in the MIMs also feel better than the i80's in the FT's but the MIM 4 iron is one of my favorite clubs and I just didn't find much difference in forgiveness compared to the FT. I have also been playing MIM's for 1.5 years with a good 350 rounds using them so there is a familiarity and comfort and the FT's always had a steep hill to climb. All that said, I could put the FT's in the bag and be very content if I didn't think the MIMs are the best irons I have ever played. I am guessing you have a similar affinity for the 223's that just look stunning at address. 

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19 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

 

... I just went through something very similar with my '22 Forged Tecs and MIM's. I played my last round with even irons FT and odd irons MIM and the difference during an actual round was pretty obvious. To be fair I think the i95's in the MIMs also feel better than the i80's in the FT's but the MIM 4 iron is one of my favorite clubs and I just didn't find much difference in forgiveness compared to the FT. I have also been playing MIM's for 1.5 years with a good 350 rounds using them so there is a familiarity and comfort and the FT's always had a steep hill to climb. All that said, I could put the FT's in the bag and be very content if I didn't think the MIMs are the best irons I have ever played. I am guessing you have a similar affinity for the 223's that just look stunning at address. 

I mean, you know it as well as anyone. If you like what you’re looking at and love how it feels there’s a pretty good chance you’ll see a boost in confidence. 
 

I can set that 4 iron down and boy do I feel good standing over a ball. 

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55 minutes ago, bens197 said:

I put it in the mix with my 223 fitting and it did not last long.  The numbers were nearly the same for me 7 iron vs 7 iron which was a surprise.  Slightly less spin on the 225 and slightly longer but the amusing part was two things for me.

1) The peak trajectory was within 3 feet between the two (223 was slightly higher) 

2) The feel on the 225 was not even close to the 223.

Side by side, I saw no significant difference or reason to consider the 225 as a forgiving alternative to long irons.  6 months later I am still pleased with my decision; the 223 long irons are easy to hit and feel fantastic.

I’ll obviously consider both the 223 and 225. As for feel I don’t know if I know what the true forged feel is, for me as Long as it feels like or better than my hot metals I would have no problem. Really looking to get rid off the offset, wide soles and chunkiness of my current irons. Although the size differences are minuscule from looking at mizunos website for offset, sole width, etc it’ll be interesting during my future fitting to see if I’m able to adapt. I’m trying to wait for the new JPX line to test the forged vs the mizuno pros. 
 

hoping that my distance stays the same, not really looking for any huge distance gains. I just have watched the TXG videos and was surprised at the low spin, but the other part of that is I am a high spin player so it may be helpful. 

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The 223 and 225 are on my short list.  I have hit the 225 a couple different extended sessions at PGA Superstore but I haven't hit the 223 yet.  I plan on getting fitted soon.  I hit the Callaway Rogue ST PRO, Ping i525, Taylormade P-790 alongside the Mizuno Pro 225 and the 225 felt best so far.   Interesting enough, my current gamer irons are lofted the same as the 225 and I am hitting the 225 every bit of 20 yards further on the simulator.  Not sure if they have the simulator cranked up or not.  I haven't had a chance to him my irons on the simulator against the 225 for comparison.  

Has anyone found the simulators to be cranked up for distance at golf stores to give the illusion of hitting clubs further?

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On 7/21/2022 at 8:07 PM, Angry Birdies said:

The 223 and 225 are on my short list.  I have hit the 225 a couple different extended sessions at PGA Superstore but I haven't hit the 223 yet.  I plan on getting fitted soon.  I hit the Callaway Rogue ST PRO, Ping i525, Taylormade P-790 alongside the Mizuno Pro 225 and the 225 felt best so far.   Interesting enough, my current gamer irons are lofted the same as the 225 and I am hitting the 225 every bit of 20 yards further on the simulator.  Not sure if they have the simulator cranked up or not.  I haven't had a chance to him my irons on the simulator against the 225 for comparison.  

Has anyone found the simulators to be cranked up for distance at golf stores to give the illusion of hitting clubs further?

Generally my numbers are pretty accurate, for carry anyway. It’s the roll that I see tending to be exaggerated with mid/long irons. 

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