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1 hour ago, PankaGolf said:

Eurgh my first reply failed. 
 

bit ultimately I’d like clarity on why you think club design/developments warrants a 30* 7 iron. 
 

it’s just not necessary. 

This has all been hashed out in hundreds of threads across every golf forum and other social media platforms, you can search for it and read thru the info.

and this video will help it explain it for you.

 

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2 hours ago, PankaGolf said:

Eurgh my first reply failed. 
 

bit ultimately I’d like clarity on why you think club design/developments warrants a 30* 7 iron. 
 

it’s just not necessary. 

It is if I want a club that flies as far as my old 30º 6 iron, but flies as high as my old 7 iron.

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Well, Thanks to some help from holiday gift cards and some rewards points here and there... put my order in for Mizuno Pro 225s 5 - GW in Nippon Modus 3 105. I can't wait till I get them in my hands. Hopefully it does not get hit with delays and arrive on the expected delivery date..... I can hope right?

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On 1/4/2022 at 1:58 PM, PankaGolf said:

Yeah I get it’s just a different number but the 7 iron was a degree stronger than my 6 and that means I need a ton more wedges and it’s just A. Pointless and B. f****** annoying. 
 

I thought Mizuno were above the “my pw goes further than your 8 bro” crowd. 

All depends on your perspective. In the old days, most of us carried 8 irons plus a sand wedge. You can still do that. It’s just that your longest iron will have a 5 stamped on it instead of a 3.

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Am I late to the party on mizzy? I have played the JPX 900s for the past 4 years... I just purchased 4-6 in the 225s and 7-G in the 223s. I also hit the T200s, but preferred mizzy. Anyone else do a double take at the lineup when the 225s considered the "easiest to hit" looked bladey? 

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4 hours ago, golfer5 said:

 Anyone else do a double take at the lineup when the 225s considered the "easiest to hit" looked bladey? 

Can't really judge clubs by how they look anymore.   The new hollow body foam filled heads are now game improvement type clubs due to how they can move weight around.

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On 1/4/2022 at 12:32 PM, chisag said:

 

... I don't really care about lofts per iron as it makes no difference to me if the Pw or 9i is 44* and a Gw is 48/49* because it is the same club with a different number on the bottom. As long as all my yardages are covered I am not gonna complain about modern lofts. What I really dislike though is the 5* gaps between clubs with 4* gaps in ( ) making a full 1/2 club difference. My Cobra's have strong lofts but have 4* gaps. I had more 3/4 shots than I would have liked when I played the P790's with their 5* gaps. I get it simplifies things for the higher index player that may not be as accurate with distances so it works well in SGI's, but I have to imagine some older low index players would be interested in the 225's:  

Pw ... 44 (44)
9 ... 39   (40)
8 ... 34   (36)
7 ... 30   (32)

Agreed Chisag.  It is human nature to cringe a little when your playing partner hits an "8 iron" and you are standing next to him with a 6 iron in your hand.... granted, my swing speed is a club slower, and his loft is a club+ stronger - but it is still a bit of an ego thing.  But on the other hand, I am carrying a 3 iron, and his set stops at 5... so I can play the ego card back at him, haha.  

All that said... my efforts in chasing "distance" from irons haven't really improved my scoring... my old MP68's still find greens, even if the number on the bottom of the club is different than my T200's.  And my gaps are better covered with the MP68's to your point...

Plus... those 221's are PRETTY!  Just something about a Mizuno 1025 forging... I'm tempted.

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2 minutes ago, Tiftaaft said:

  It is human nature to cringe a little when your playing partner hits an "8 iron" and you are standing next to him with a 6 iron in your hand....

While it is human nature to do that comparison,  I rarely if ever know what club the people I am playing with hit.  The exception would be Driver/wood/hybrid/iron off the tee just because it is obvious.      That said,  if I play with someone that will ask me what I club I hit,  I will sometime play a longer club with less than full swing just to mess with them 🙂  

 

 

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4 minutes ago, cnosil said:

I will sometime play a longer club with less than full swing just to mess with them 🙂  

Nice!  haha

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6 minutes ago, cnosil said:

I rarely if ever know what club the people I am playing with hit.  The exception would be Driver/wood/hybrid/iron off the tee just because it is obvious. 

I was referring to my regular group of playing partners and the chit chat that always happens on the tee (Par 3) while everyone is standing there with their range finders out getting the yardage to the inch... and sharing what club they are hitting to get there.  Meanwhile, I take a quick "middle of the green" reading on my GPS and judge whatever wind is blowing, and pull my club... then patiently wait for them to finish.  I never ask, but I usually know exactly what club they are hitting. 🙂

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58 minutes ago, Tiftaaft said:

It is human nature to cringe a little when your playing partner hits an "8 iron" and you are standing next to him with a 6 iron in your hand.... granted, my swing speed is a club slower, and his loft is a club+ stronger - but it is still a bit of an ego thing.  But on the other hand, I am carrying a 3 iron, and his set stops at 5... so I can play the ego card back at him, haha.  

 

... Maybe human nature but I have always felt ego is mostly displaced. My son was a first team all conference DE in college and anytime a tackle or QB trash talked him he just smiled, rarely responding but if he did say something it was simply "Scoreboard" because they were almost always ahead. Score trumps anything else. 

... I would also include David Mamet advice A-B-C ... A Always ... B Be ... C Closing. Always Be Closing. What anyone hits is irrelevant if you beat them. I could even make the argument it is more enjoyable to hit a 6i and record a birdie while your opponent uses an 8i to make par or even better, a bogie. Has to be frustrating for them. Golf always was and always will be about writing the lowest number in a box, because there is no box to check for what loft you used or how you did it, just write in a number. Clubs are merely tools (amazingly fun tools 🤑) to help you accomplish a task. 

... Lots of threads on how to shoot lower scores or how to get to single digits. Increase your strengths and improve your weaknesses, hit fairways and greens and when you don't, get up and down. Amazingly simple and thinking about what someone else hits is just a distraction. So when your buddies are on the tee of a par 3 instead of worrying about which club they are hitting:


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7 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... Maybe human nature but I have always felt ego is mostly displaced. My son was a first team all conference DE in college and anytime a tackle or QB trash talked him he just smiled, rarely responding but if he did say something it was simply "Scoreboard" because they were almost always ahead. Score trumps anything else. 

... I would also include David Mamet advice A-B-C ... A Always ... B Be ... C Closing. Always Be Closing. What anyone hits is irrelevant if you beat them. I could even make the argument it is more enjoyable to hit a 6i and record a birdie while your opponent uses an 8i to make par or even better, a bogie. Has to be frustrating for them. Golf always was and always will be about writing the lowest number in a box, because there is no box to check for what loft you used or how you did it, just write in a number. Clubs are merely tools (amazingly fun tools 🤑) to help you accomplish a task. 

... Lots of threads on how to shoot lower scores or how to get to single digits. Increase your strengths and improve your weaknesses, hit fairways and greens and when you don't, get up and down. Amazingly simple and thinking about what someone else hits is just a distraction. So when your buddies are on the tee of a par 3 instead of worrying about which club they are hitting:


Adam Sandler Somebodys Closer GIF - Adam Sandler Somebodys Closer Happy Gilmore GIFs 

Well said Chisag.  🙂

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20 hours ago, chisag said:

 

... Maybe human nature but I have always felt ego is mostly displaced. My son was a first team all conference DE in college and anytime a tackle or QB trash talked him he just smiled, rarely responding but if he did say something it was simply "Scoreboard" because they were almost always ahead. Score trumps anything else. 

... I would also include David Mamet advice A-B-C ... A Always ... B Be ... C Closing. Always Be Closing. What anyone hits is irrelevant if you beat them. I could even make the argument it is more enjoyable to hit a 6i and record a birdie while your opponent uses an 8i to make par or even better, a bogie. Has to be frustrating for them. Golf always was and always will be about writing the lowest number in a box, because there is no box to check for what loft you used or how you did it, just write in a number. Clubs are merely tools (amazingly fun tools 🤑) to help you accomplish a task. 

... Lots of threads on how to shoot lower scores or how to get to single digits. Increase your strengths and improve your weaknesses, hit fairways and greens and when you don't, get up and down. Amazingly simple and thinking about what someone else hits is just a distraction. So when your buddies are on the tee of a par 3 instead of worrying about which club they are hitting:


Adam Sandler Somebodys Closer GIF - Adam Sandler Somebodys Closer Happy Gilmore GIFs 

And that's the beauty of golf. There's a starting point (the tee box) and an end point (the hole), and a million different ways to get from one to the other which allows everyone to tailor the path to their game. 

I never ask my playing partners what they're hitting not just cause their distances are different but also cause they might be playing a particular shot that changes their stock yardage with that club. Instead, I ask them how they see the hole and how they're approaching their shot. That at least gives me glimpses of some things I might have missed (e.g. a particular ridge or hazard) without locking my head into their distance or shape plan. 

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On 9/22/2021 at 12:52 PM, McGolf said:

Got them in hand for a quick look see,

The blade is nice. Clean as blades usually are. not much you can do with the design but they always look good

the 223 is certainly an upgrade in appearance compared to the MP20 MMC. I like the new cavity appearance and the fact they are not afraid to say they now have a GW.

The 225 although looks familiar, is a short blade length for a more compact head specifically at the lower end. My opinion would be the design was changed to flow though combo sets easier and give the over all set a higher level players look.

The wedges will be an upgrade to the last model too with the addition of the copper head. Unfortunately LEFTIES are not part of that plan. However the 223 is. So there's that. 

I play the MMCs and I’m beginning to think that I’m the only one who thinks they’re beautiful. The short irons don’t look large and clunky IMO. 

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Hit a bucket today with the 223. After three years with my Cobra CBs I have gotten used to their size but it kind of shocked me how small they are compared to the 223! The heft of the 223 sole scared me a bit but they bevel really does it’s job; I was going in and out of the turf nicely with it. Feel is great out of the middle and feedback is easily detectable. Not 100% sold yet until trying other shafts (today used the LS 6.5 which seemed a bit much for me) but leaning toward a 4-P set; should get a bit more forgiveness than the current gamers at the very least!


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Well I tried the 223’s in my fit, and they were really good. I had a very small dispersion circle, even though they were hit the least consistent of the 4 I tried(ZX7,JPX tour, and Apex Pro). Very forgiving, just was able to find the middle better with the ZX7’s, which gave me slightly better numbers. I think the 223’s will be a huge hit this year. 

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18 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Well, it was a good week for me delivery wise, the two drivers Monday and these today!  

Even though we still have patches of snow scattered all around our course and it's closed. I got out to the first hole took some pics and hit some shots.   

Event though it was a brisk 40 degees, slight breeze and hadn't swung a club in 6 weeks---is that enough excuses 🙂  I liekd what I saw from these.

Very nice solid feel, ball flight I'm hoping will be a bit higher when things warm up and I loosen up, but again they are not designed like my T300,  anyone that continues to complain about loft jacking on GI, needs to come hit these and something tlike the T300 side by side, then they might might understand what the engineers are doing with lofts and design these days.  Ok, enough of that beaten horse.

I hit a few thin and got the expected loss of distance, but nothing that would put me in horrible condtion, maybe front of the green, if I was shooting for a middle of the green pin.  

The GW was my favorite by far, not because it was the easiest to hit...ha  But the spin it gotr when it landed is somethig that you really look for in your wedge.  It could have me laying back to 100 yards a lot more than trying to get within 50 or 60!

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While they look amazing, I am excited to hear your thoughts when it's warm enough to wear less than 4 layers 🙂

Thanks for the update!

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5 minutes ago, bens197 said:

While they look amazing, I am excited to hear your thoughts when it's warm enough to wear less than 4 layers 🙂

Thanks for the update!

Yeah, I'm looking forward tto that as well, and to be honest I was able to get down to two layers at one point 🙂   But still nothing I could do about the creaky old body that has beenon the shelf for two months, although I have started a bit of a winter swinging program. 

 

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