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At the risk of raising the ire of someone who is superior to me, I will ask a question that might piss them off.  Yes, I have searched the database for a thread that covers this, but could not find one.  Please excuse my egregious error if there was one and I did not find it. What have you bought, golf related, that you really wanted, but after you bought it, you now consider it a waste of money?  As for myself it is a laser rangefinder.  Since I have started using a gps app on my phone, I cannot remember the last time I’ve used my laser rangefinder.

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While I’m a huge fan of laser rangefinders, the Shot Scope Pro L1 unit that I put into play a few months ago has been returning garbage distance readings of late - it’s all over the place. Definitely feels like wasted money right now but hopefully the replacement they’re sending out will be an improvement.

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brand name gloves are a pretty big waste of money. 

i bought 10 MG gloves with my initials on them for the price of 3 premium titleist or footjoy gloves. 

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$200-$400 personal launch monitors! I tried two of them. Complete waste of money!!!

 

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I'm still working through it, but IMO Arccos sensors. The number of missed shots during a round is diabolical, and I've tried all of the support strategies and suggested fixes on their website (and other sites that propose fixes). Perhaps the software updates that have occurred of late have made improvements (I haven't played for a few months), but at this point in time, there's little chance of choosing to renew my subscription once it expires.

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9 hours ago, PMookie said:

$200-$400 personal launch monitors! I tried two of them. Complete waste of money!!!

 

I've got a SC200 with very inconsistent results. I would put it on BST but don't want to sell something that is 'broken' 

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8 hours ago, Blueberry_Squishie said:

I'm still working through it, but IMO Arccos sensors. The number of missed shots during a round is diabolical, and I've tried all of the support strategies and suggested fixes on their website (and other sites that propose fixes). Perhaps the software updates that have occurred of late have made improvements (I haven't played for a few months), but at this point in time, there's little chance of choosing to renew my subscription once it expires.

ARRCOS relief is spelled 'Shotscope' 

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1 hour ago, tony@CIC said:

ARRCOS relief is spelled 'Shotscope' 

I am verrrrrry close to going back to my Shotscope.

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Most of the money that I've wasted has been on buy-before you try online ordered golf clubs.

I keep the clubs that I've actually played forever in my collection,

but the ones for which I've had buyer's remorse have gotten sold with my taking a big bath on them.

As for rangefinders, I'm told that they're more accurate than GPS if you have a line of view, but I still prefer hand held GPS.

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7 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

I've got a SC200 with very inconsistent results. I would put it on BST but don't want to sell something that is 'broken' 

I must have gotten lucky and bought one that works.  I actually bought it from our BST. Not long after acquiring mine, a friend who has a laser rangefinder and was checking my shots (freshly picked range) to what my SC200 was showing. The range was damp and balls hit with the 7i up not rolling out much at all.  The numbers were very close.  I also had a chance to repeat this with a guy using a Mevo+ (set the SC200 right next to it) and again within a few yards. 

I have heard of folks complaining about SC200 inconsistencies, but I haven't experienced that - at least in "practice mode" with the club lofts set correctly and with the device placed at the correct distance behind the ball.  Loses some shots once in awhile but generally very happy with it.

In answer to the OP's question, I found the Golf Buddy V2 to be irritating.  It frequently lost satellite signal.  When you get hooked on these devices you suddenly feel lost on the course 😲.  I had to find a yard marker, pace off, and do some math 😆.

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29 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

I must have gotten lucky and bought one that works.  I actually bought it from our BST. Not long after acquiring mine, a friend who has a laser rangefinder and was checking my shots (freshly picked range) to what my SC200 was showing. The range was damp and balls hit with the 7i up not rolling out much at all.  The numbers were very close.  I also had a chance to repeat this with a guy using a Mevo+ (set the SC200 right next to it) and again within a few yards. 

I have heard of folks complaining about SC200 inconsistencies, but I haven't experienced that - at least in "practice mode" with the club lofts set correctly and with the device placed at the correct distance behind the ball.  Loses some shots once in awhile but generally very happy with it.

In answer to the OP's question, I found the Golf Buddy V2 to be irritating.  It frequently lost satellite signal.  When you get hooked on these devices you suddenly feel lost on the course 😲.  I had to find a yard marker, pace off, and do some math 😆.

Early on my SC200 was spot on compared to Trackman for swing speed and ball speed. Over the winter (2021) something happened and the variance next to other monitors is +/- 7 mph. At one point I had found a way to reset it, but since lost the instructions and couldn't get customer support to respond.  BTW, I agree on the Golfbuddy - my wife is usually cycling it on and off a couple of times because of signal loss. 

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On 10/1/2021 at 11:08 PM, tony@CIC said:

ARRCOS relief is spelled 'Shotscope' 

Just updated the app, now it doesn't even open...

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On 10/1/2021 at 11:03 AM, BostonSal said:

Most of the money that I've wasted has been on buy-before you try online ordered golf clubs.

I keep the clubs that I've actually played forever in my collection,

but the ones for which I've had buyer's remorse have gotten sold with my taking a big bath on them.

As for rangefinders, I'm told that they're more accurate than GPS if you have a line of view, but I still prefer hand held GPS.

I am still using the Precision Pro I tested for MGS quite a few years ago--- I do not rely on GPS. A lot of my scramble partners use GPS and can not understand when I come up with a different yardage. I tell them mine are at the pin and they still do not comprehend. Also at my home course which I know like the back of my hand I calculate the distance the ball needs to land plus take in the slope and wind. Most of the time when playing by myself I do not even take my rangefinder out of the bag. I know where I need to hit the ball as far as yardage and pin placement. On courses I do not know as well I go straight to the pin on club selection. 

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On 10/1/2021 at 5:23 PM, fixyurdivot said:

I must have gotten lucky and bought one that works.  I actually bought it from our BST.

Great to hear - I think that is the one you bought off me.  

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28 minutes ago, juspoole said:

Great to hear - I think that is the one you bought off me.  

It is.  You young bucks provide us old guys a constant supply of golf tech hand-me-downs.  I have @Thin2winV2.  Maybe his V3 when the V4 comes out and a GC3 when the GCX hits the market 😄.

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Driver shafts kinda. I tinker too much. Arccos was great but then told me what I needed to know then dumped it.  I would say any training aid but the planemate and max swing speed. 

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Tough call. I did, for a while, carry around a lot of non-versatile clubs that might get used only once a round. I still have a few clubs that are not used often (2 hybrid, namely), but everything in the bag is something I can hit and can be used in multiple situations.

Even my training aids have a purpose, but there are plenty that can be had for cheaper if you DIY or find used. The DownUnder Board comes to mind. Very useful for me, but realistically a baking pan would provide the same feedback at 1/6th of the cost.

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13 hours ago, BIG STU said:

I am still using the Precision Pro I tested for MGS quite a few years ago--- I do not rely on GPS. A lot of my scramble partners use GPS and can not understand when I come up with a different yardage. I tell them mine are at the pin and they still do not comprehend. Also at my home course which I know like the back of my hand I calculate the distance the ball needs to land plus take in the slope and wind. Most of the time when playing by myself I do not even take my rangefinder out of the bag. I know where I need to hit the ball as far as yardage and pin placement. On courses I do not know as well I go straight to the pin on club selection. 

I don't use GPS because it's more accurate.  It isn't.

I use it because It's easier.

But as with you, I pretty much know where I am anywhere on my home track.  For better or worse, I've seen pretty much all of it.

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