Max Swing Speed Trainer Review and Progress

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,459]

Implemented the super speed protocol into this aid. Saw a huge jump actually. I think going forward I’ll do the SS protocols. First time avg on light stick above 120!!

 

12/23 SS level 1
Pre	106	109	108	106		107.25
1R	108	116	113			112.3333333
1L	56	101	95			84
3R	Miss	Miss	101			101
3L	84	83	85			84
5R	96	107	Miss			101.5
5L	88	87	87			87.33333333
1RSs	122	Miss	Miss			122
1Lss	79	100	76			85
3Rss	110	107	109			108.6666667
3Lss	98	92	96			95.33333333
5Rss	90	93	94			92.33333333
5Lss	Miss	89	88			88.5
1R max	123	124	120	123	121	122.2
Post	115	115	114	116		115

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,459]

Onto week two doing SS protocols. This is my mid week session. Seeing a 5mph bump pre to post again. The less swings of the SS protocol are very energy saving. I should note the pre and post driver swings are choking down to about 44” in length. Will do a length contact self fitting next time I’m at the range to see if shorter truly helps with this set up. So far I haven’t minded the long length with the rdx blue. Although, all this training means I’ll likely have to bump my flex up to keep spin control. 
 

12/29 SS level 1
Pre	108	110	106	102		106.5
1R	115	114	113			114
1L	90	99	95			94.66666667
3R	108	112	112			110.6666667
3L	Miss	89	96			92.5
5R	102	103	105			103.3333333
5L	85	87	90			87.33333333
1RSs	121	116	122			119.6666667
1Lss	105	96	107			102.6666667
3Rss	110	112	112			111.3333333
3Lss	Miss	99	Miss			99
5Rss	105	105	105			105
5Lss	92	85	87			88
1R max	122	121	106	121	121	118.2
Post	114	113	114	111		113

[Keko220 1]

Hello VG,

 

I just received my MSS and started the protocols today.  from reading your posts it seems like its legit and 

I'm looking forward to seeing results come golf season. I'm also currently doing FFG on M-W-F and will be

implementing the SS in between workout days.  I'm going to try and get swing speed numbers with my SC200

and see if it registers the swing speeds.  Hope our efforts show on the golf course in a few months.

 

Kekoe220 

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,459]

1 minute ago, Keko220 said:

Hello VG,

 

I just received my MSS and started the protocols today.  from reading your posts it seems like its legit and 

I'm looking forward to seeing results come golf season. I'm also currently doing FFG on M-W-F and will be

implementing the SS in between workout days.  I'm going to try and get swing speed numbers with my SC200

and see if it registers the swing speeds.  Hope our efforts show on the golf course in a few months.

 

Kekoe220 

awesome! Feel free to tag on to this as well with your data

[Keko220 1]

5 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

awesome! Feel free to tag on to this as well with your data

I will try my best.  Haven't been on here in a while.  lol

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,459]

Hit 113 on a pre swing yesterday and twice hit 115 on post training driver swings. Really curious to see what sticks come end of February. 

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,459]

Big gain to start week 3 of super speed protocols. Almost hit 130 mph on light weight. 
 

1/3/22 SS level 1
Pre	109	111	111			110.3333333
1R	108	108	109			108.3333333
1L	Miss	91	99			95
3R	111	111	111			111
3L	Miss	Miss	Miss			#DIV/0!
5R	104	103	103			103.3333333
5L	Miss	87	85			86
1RSs	125	127	114			122
1Lss	106	106	100			104
3Rss	100	113	113			108.6666667
3Lss	97	94	89			93.33333333
5Rss	102	102	105			103
5Lss	87	85	86			86
1R max	126	127	128			127
Post	113	115	115			114.3333333

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,459]

Went outside for swings today vs the gym. My pre and post speeds were faster. I presume from better ground interaction with spikes. interestingly, my Non dominant swings are slower outside than indoors.
 

Anyways, progress still good. Two more weeks of SS L1 then off to level 2. Speed may dip a little now that I can push the FFG winter strength program harder having a gym membership. 
 

1/09 SS level 1
Pre	108	111	110			109.6666667
1R	120	119	125			121.3333333
1L	85	88	84			85.66666667
3R	115	114	115			114.6666667
3L	86	86	Miss			86
5R	106	96	105			102.3333333
5L	84	81	79			81.33333333
1RSs	124	122	104			116.6666667
1Lss	104	101	109			104.6666667
3Rss	115	Miss	109			112
3Lss	90	87	88			88.33333333
5Rss	Miss	Miss	104			104
5Lss	77	83	70			76.66666667
1R max	121	113	121	121	120	119.2
Post	116	111	112	114		113.25

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,459]

Haven't posted in a while. My pre SS now is hovering around 111 mph and post swings are around 115. 2 more weeks of protocols then go into maintenance mode. FFG also has ~6 more weeks left. Will see where i am after protocols and then again after FFG winter program.

[3JackCity 6]

Love seeing your progress. Never had seen this tool until now. With the new revisions to Super Speed Protocols I am considering doing them with my Rypstick. Just recently started the Fit For Golf off season program about a week ago and am enjoying it so far. Definitely going to keep tab on this thread!

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,459]

So I am about to start the next round of SS protocols with this trainer, I am also transitioning into the In season power routine on FFG from the Winter program. Did my last maintenance run today on SS protocols. Here are how my Pre swing speed averages stack up.

 

Last Maintenance run Pre-swing speed. Overall a 3 mph gain has stuck (this speed is close to where i was on post  training swings most the time). Along with my muscles not being sore from lifting, i am super impressed with my results. Give this and FFG a try. It makes golf way more enjoyable.

112,25 MPH

Prior pre speed averages

Total (The the programs below basically over 17 weeks	105.1212963
Max SS	100.3055556
Lvl 1	107.6027778
Lvl 2	109.2430556

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,459]

Touched 115 today messing around in my yard. It’s all coming together. 

[JFish350 576]

Keep up with up dates, I am looking into this, but I feel my driver swing is out of whack right now AGAIN. I am told I don't need more speed. I had a pro tell me my handicap doesn't fit my swing, should be single digit. There are other reasons I'm at 15 as well. 

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,459]

1 hour ago, JFish350 said:

Keep up with up dates, I am looking into this, but I feel my driver swing is out of whack right now AGAIN. I am told I don't need more speed. I had a pro tell me my handicap doesn't fit my swing, should be single digit. There are other reasons I'm at 15 as well. 

Will do. I haven’t done much since I was in the maintenance phase. Will likely kick it up in a couple weeks. Non ball golf swings with driver I can get up to 115 with a 44.5” shaft

[BMart519 1,380]

19 hours ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

Will do. I haven’t done much since I was in the maintenance phase. Will likely kick it up in a couple weeks. Non ball golf swings with driver I can get up to 115 with a 44.5” shaft

Have you been taking any lessons over the winter? It would be interesting to see how your handicap changes with the added speed assuming you can isolate it from major swing changes (ignoring general improvement work indoors). 

Great work staying committed to this over the winter. I started strong but have really stalled between vacations/injuries and have only been able to maintain speed using the Stack. Now that the weather has broken, I am spending most practice time chipping in the yard until the courses open and green up. 

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW 4,459]

3 minutes ago, BMart519 said:

Have you been taking any lessons over the winter? It would be interesting to see how your handicap changes with the added speed assuming you can isolate it from major swing changes (ignoring general improvement work indoors). 

Great work staying committed to this over the winter. I started strong but have really stalled between vacations/injuries and have only been able to maintain speed using the Stack. Now that the weather has broken, I am spending most practice time chipping in the yard until the courses open and green up. 

Thanks. It was a challenge but did it! So I did have two 9 hole rounds prior to getting Skillest lessons. No SG data but my avg driver distance was much closer to 270 (mostly carry). My SS with the new shaft help a lot. My first 18 is tomorrow if the snow melts. I’d also be 2.5 weeks into a lesson so things might be a wash. The lesson is mainly for my iron play but I know it will translate everywhere. With the lesson work getting my speed feels like less effort so I feel I can go even faster with more work thinking about my swing setup. 
 

my big issue now is, with the season here, do I focus on FFG more and actual golf/practice and keep with the maintenance program or so I go full next level SS training and try to use my swing work in that training for my practice?

[BMart519 1,380]

15 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

Thanks. It was a challenge but did it! So I did have two 9 hole rounds prior to getting Skillest lessons. No SG data but my avg driver distance was much closer to 270 (mostly carry). My SS with the new shaft help a lot. My first 18 is tomorrow if the snow melts. I’d also be 2.5 weeks into a lesson so things might be a wash. The lesson is mainly for my iron play but I know it will translate everywhere. With the lesson work getting my speed feels like less effort so I feel I can go even faster with more work thinking about my swing setup. 
 

my big issue now is, with the season here, do I focus on FFG more and actual golf/practice and keep with the maintenance program or so I go full next level SS training and try to use my swing work in that training for my practice?

I signed up for a lesson package this winter from an instructor who still plays high level golf - already qualified for the RBC Canadian Open on the PGA tour. Since short game is one of my greatest weaknesses, I asked about his tournament prep, practice routines and general advice for seasonal golfers. (His facility is indoors, not ideal for short game lessons)

His feedback was each season begins with additional short game work: hitting a few sand shots so the first ones aren't on the course, getting his feel back for high/low shots and judging runout on chips/pitches and reaction to slopes. I looked at your stats last year and would recommend you consider the same. If you cannot play year round, I would prioritize playing which is among the fastest ways to lower scores and enjoy all the work you have put in. 

If you are cooped up in the winter it is a great time to prioritize speed training and weights. Get out and enjoy the game and weather! 

Average driving distance for scratch golfers is around 250 yards including all shots. If you can hit it 270-280 off the tee, distance is no longer the problem if your handicap is above 10. It's quality of contact on full swings (duffs, penalties) and short game holding you back. My distance is similar to yours since I'm at elevation and a bit slower. My SG info has me around 3 HCP off the tee, 10 HCP approach, 15 HCP short game, and 20 HCP putting. My overall handicap is 11.0 right now... I'm working on getting short game and putting closer to a 10HCP as opposed to scratch on full swing to get me into single digits.