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What irons have you tested recently that surprised you?  That it to say a make model you really expected to shine that did not, and those you didn't think would, that did?  For me it was the TMP790 and the Callaway Mavrik Pro.  I really liked the look and engineering of the P790, and had high hopes they would be among my final choices.  They weren't but pretty much just middle of the pack.  The Callaway Mavrik Pro's took my #3 spot behind the G425 and the ZX5's.  I didn't even have them on my "must try" list but the fitter brought them out so perhaps he saw something in my numbers that looked like a match.

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:ping-small: G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver 

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w

:srixon-small:  ZX5 Irons 4-AW 

:ping-small: Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW   (removed from double secret probation 😍)

:EVNROLL: ER5v Putter  (Evnroll ER5v Official Review)

 

 

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2 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

What irons have you tested recently that surprised you?  That it to say a make model you really expected to shine that did not, and those you didn't think would, that did?  For me it was the TMP790 and the Callaway Mavrik Pro.  I really liked the look and engineering of the P790, and had high hopes they would be among my final choices.  They weren't but pretty much just middle of the pack.  The Callaway Mavrik Pro's took my #3 spot behind the G425 and the ZX5's.  I didn't even have them on my "must try" list but the fitter brought them out so perhaps he saw something in my numbers that looked like a match.

Did he actually say that you swung like a "pro", so try these?  😂

I haven't swung any new irons since Oct 2019.

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I haven't hit any news irons this year, I stayed very faithful to mine. But the last ones that I hit that I wanted to be good and had no love for were the mizuno hmb's

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Driver:   :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4

FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5° - Fujikura Pro

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, Kenny B said:

Did he actually say that you swung like a "pro", so try these?  😂

I haven't swung any new irons since Oct 2019.

Yea, he was in awe.  Did I mention the Square Strike he pulled?

 

18 hours ago, Thin2win said:

I haven't hit any news irons this year, I stayed very faithful to mine. But the last ones that I hit that I wanted to be good and had no love for were the mizuno hmb's

The D7's seem to be treating you just fine, but it's always good to let them see other shiny metal and fend off "in the bag" complacency.   It is crazy how some iron designs just don't work.  Outwardly, one wouldn't expect that to be the case.

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:ping-small: G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver 

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w

:srixon-small:  ZX5 Irons 4-AW 

:ping-small: Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW   (removed from double secret probation 😍)

:EVNROLL: ER5v Putter  (Evnroll ER5v Official Review)

 

 

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I really want some one to comment on the '21 Apex Pros. They walked away with most wanted and editors choice, but I can't find a single mention of them on the forums other than a posting listing a set for sale. 

I think I'll go hit some this week just to see, but surprising there is no mention of them. 

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Driver:   :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4

FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5° - Fujikura Pro

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

 

 

 

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22 hours ago, Thin2win said:

I haven't hit any news irons this year, I stayed very faithful to mine. But the last ones that I hit that I wanted to be good and had no love for were the mizuno hmb's

I like the HMBs, but the set I have are so much lighter than my gamers, and I'm having a difficult time adjusting.  

I even reshafted my Macgregors with the same Nippon shaft that's in my Bridgestones to see if I could hit them better than the Mizunos, which are a similar design and lofts.  Well, I can!  I like the heavier shaft.  So, now I trying to decide if I should keep the HMBs and keep working on using the lighter shaft, reshaft them with the Nippons, or dump them.

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I went to get fit for new irons last Saturday.  Went in with my mind made up on the new P790s and just needed to get the shaft dialed in.  Ended up ordering the ZX5s with Project X Rifle shafts.  

I tried the P790s, ZX5, Cobra TEC, Ping I59.  The Project X Rifle gave me the best launch angle and apex.  But couldn't try that shaft with the P790s.  Fitter said Taylormade didn't send that shaft.  

Was totally surprised how well I hit the ZX5s. I hit a demo, at my club, when they first came out and wasn't impressed at all.  But think that may have been the shaft.

 

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default_callaway-small.jpg Epic Flash SZ 3W Tensei Blue 75S

default_callaway-small.jpg Mavrik 5W Rouge White 70S

:srixon-small: ZX5 4-PW Project X 6.0

default_titelist-small.jpg Vokey SM8 48* F Grind

default_titelist-small.jpg Vokey SM8 54* F Grind

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I recently tried P7MC and Jpx921 Tour, both with $taper. About 1000 revs less with P7MC resulting in meaningful distance differences from shot to shot. For me, Jpx921 tight on distance w better spin/distance control. 

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Driver - Titleist TS3 9.5  (HRZDUS Smoke 6.5)

3 wood - TaylorMade SIM2 MAX  15 (Ventus Blue 6S)

Hybrid - TaylorMade SIM MAX 19 (Ventus Blue 7S)

Irons - Mizuno JPX 921 Tour 4-GW (DG X100)

Wedges - Titleist Vokey SM8 54D (DG X100) & 58M (DG S400)

Putter - Odyssey WH RX VLine

Ball - Titleist Pro V1

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26 minutes ago, Billy-Bo-Jim-Bob said:

I recently tried P7MC and Jpx921 Tour, both with $taper. About 1000 revs less with P7MC resulting in meaningful distance differences from shot to shot. For me, Jpx921 tight on distance w better spin/distance control. 

A good example that a shaft may not work for someone in every head. The $taper is a great shaft but one that I’ve found not to fit me in the p7 series from TM.

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Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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I was gaming Ping G30’s - I hated the look but was pleased with the performance. I thought I’d love the G410’s when they came out a few years ago - hated them from the first swing.

 

Was happy to be selected for the Wilson D7 forged test last fall but concerned about the smaller footprint and less offset. Turns out that I hit those better than the G30’s - go figure! 

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Taylor Made Sim2  10.5 (Opened 1 click) Ventus Blue 5  R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

Edison Wedges 54 and 59 KBS Tour Graphite 80's

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Tour Exotics 3 wood is in the bag because we are allowed 14 clubs.  It's a great club for pulling balls out of the water or from bushes - you never want to put your hand into anything in Florida unless you are absolutely certain that it's safe.  There are rare wind conditions when I might hit it off the tee on a few holes that I play.  

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For me wholesale changes in the irons and wedge department due to my ongoing nerve issues in my back---- Driver and Fairways mostly the same--- Putter always the same when not playing vintage---- I comitted to this set up 2 weeks ago and have played and practiced and have 4 rounds in pain free.

Irons  5 thru PW 2016 TM TP CB Steelfiber 95 R shafts pristine shape in fact 5&6 irons still had plastic on them when I traded for them. I have been messing with them a year or so on the range and have more or less gotten used to the different feel for me overall

SW Callaway Mack Daddy PM Grind 56* modified from 13* bounce to 10* bounce Stock KBS steel Wedge shaft was new when I did a trade deal for it

GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* 8* bounce Stock Cally shaft - This wedge was found in one of my junk pile finds rusty but did a Coke soak for 24 hrs turned out fine. Grooves like new. Have the 56 and 60 to match all have raw finish

I have built a basically TM clone Turbo Power 25* hybrid that the head was in some of my stuff still in shrink wrap. I think it came from my buds shop when he retired like 5 years ago. found a stock TM R hybrid shaft in my stash. Have not hit actual balls on the range or course yet. Will not get to do this weekend because a nasty Coastal storm with rain and wind is moving in. Did hit 10 whiffle balls in the yard this AM but it was cold and the wind getting up but it felt good weight wise and felt good on contact. Liked the weight on it from the get go. I think I can get a little more out of it from the fairway than I can the 5 iron but it is still experimental. 

I reluctently made the move from my steel shafted Machogans but do like the feel of the TMs sorta an acquired taste I guess. I decided to make the wedge switch since my beloved 588s are starting to get concave

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Driver ---- TM M-6 Evenflow 65 G R flex---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex---  Irons 5 thru PW 2016 TM TP CBs Steelfiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy2 52* Stock regular shaft--- SW Callaway Mack Daddy PM grind modified to 10* bounce KBS wedge shaft R---- Putter Scotty Sante Fe fluted Bulls Eye shaft you seriously think it was going anywhere? Bag Old School Burton Mini Staff non demontional no advertising

 

 

 

 

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I was playing Wilson Di7 irons for about 5 years and thought I needed an upgrade. I picked up the Cobra Bio Cell irons and hated them. My son liked them so it was a "hear you go". I went back to Wilson and got the D200's which I liked and was playing until last year. I was selected to test the Sub-70 699 Pro irons last year. That was a game changing surprise and still sitting comfortably in my bag.

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:ping-small: Driver, G400 11* SR Flex

:taylormade-small: 3 Wood, SLDR  HL 17*  R Flex

:taylormade-small: 5 Wood, SLDR 19* R Flex

:cobra-small: 7 Wood, F6 22.5* R Flex

:Sub70: 939x 5 hybrid

:Sub70: Irons, 699 Pro's S Flex (6 - AW)

:Sub70:  JB Wedge 56*

:cleveland-small: Wedge, CBX 60*

:odyssey-small: Putter, Marksman Fang 35"

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Went for an iron fitting last Sat.   Was really interested in the new Titleist T-100….. didn’t hit them very consistently. Tried the Apex TCB’s.  They were really good.   Then he handed me PXG Gen4 Tour iron.  It was far an away the best and most consistent.   Gonna hv to sell a bunch of stuff outta my ho’ closet to purchase those PXG’s.  $275 just for the head. Ouch.  

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3 hours ago, revkev said:

I was gaming Ping G30’s - I hated the look but was pleased with the performance. I thought I’d love the G410’s when they came out a few years ago - hated them from the first swing.

 

Was happy to be selected for the Wilson D7 forged test last fall but concerned about the smaller footprint and less offset. Turns out that I hit those better than the G30’s - go figure! 

That is kind of odd about the G410's.  If memory serves, @Rickpdid not like them that well either... maybe a Florida high humidity thing? 🙂

While I was hesitant (no, make that spooked) about not being able to consistently hit the ZX5's, I'm finding that not to be an issue at all.  I do think they are a bit less forgiving than the G410 and G425's but not that bad.  I hit @Thin2win (Chris's) D7's at the range during out PNW Meet-up and liked them - but they did not perform real well at the TrueSpec fitting 🤔.  This just makes me think so many of these irons are actually very, very close in design/tech and capability, and that much of how they work for us gets down to the "on any given day" argument.

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:ping-small: G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver 

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w

:srixon-small:  ZX5 Irons 4-AW 

:ping-small: Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW   (removed from double secret probation 😍)

:EVNROLL: ER5v Putter  (Evnroll ER5v Official Review)

 

 

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I had just the opposite effect when I went to get fitted for irons in early 2020.  TM P790s weren't even on the list, but the fitter threw them in at the end and they produced the best numbers.  For the first 3-4 rounds I really struggled to hit them (formerly playing Hogen Apex Plus) but then something just clicked and it's been really good ever since.  Agree with other posters that many times it's the shaft - also you can have a bad day that affects everything.  I know I don't swing as well on a mat as on grass, and indoors is even more difficult.  When I find something that works I realize the bad shots are not the arrow, it's the Indian.  

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:titelist-small: 913D (8.5), 913Fd (15), 913h (19) Diamana shafts

:taylormade-small:  P790 4-PW KBS C-Taper Lite 

:benhogan-small:TK-15 52,56,60 KBS Tour Wedge

:odyssey-small: O-Works Versa #2

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On 10/16/2021 at 8:26 PM, fixyurdivot said:

What irons have you tested recently that surprised you?  That it to say a make model you really expected to shine that did not, and those you didn't think would, that did?  For me it was the TMP790 and the Callaway Mavrik Pro.  I really liked the look and engineering of the P790, and had high hopes they would be among my final choices.  They weren't but pretty much just middle of the pack.  The Callaway Mavrik Pro's took my #3 spot behind the G425 and the ZX5's.  I didn't even have them on my "must try" list but the fitter brought them out so perhaps he saw something in my numbers that looked like a match.

I found the Mavrik Pro's to be really good for me too in fitting, but didn't pull the trigger.  And, then I tried a used set of Bridgestone J40's that showed up in the pro shop.  Hit those as good or better than I hit any of the new models in the fitting - total surprise.  
Some I thought would be good that weren't (at least that day) ... anything Mizuno - as much as MGS has always rated Mizuno's highly, I wanted them to be good for me, but I have never gotten along with any Mizuno irons.  One fitter said it could be because Mizuno's have a flatter standard lie angle than other irons ... shrug.  
For Drivers, 2 years ago, the TS2 surprised me, beating out all the others.  The TM Sim and the Ping G410 models surprised me on the bad-for-me end.  

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3W: Taylormade Sim Max, Accra FX 2.0 200 M3.
3H: Taylormade Sim, Stock Stiff.
3/4-PW: Miura CB57, TT DG S300 Stiff.
50*, 55*, 60*:  Titleist Vokey SM6/8/4 (respectively), DG Spinner.
Putter: P&SI-EGOS  (considering L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1).
Ball: TM TP5 Pix OR Pro V1x OR Vice Pro Soft OR Cut Blue ... (See Why!)
Bag: MNML.
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