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You also may need new grips. If epoxy worked its way up the shaft on install, when you remove the shaft you may have dried epoxy that broke off and is stuck. You can heat the shaft up to burn it off, near the tip or cut the grip off so it comes out.

If you are looking for a budget shaft puller for graphite shafts, all you need is a bench vise and this. I got one last year and it works great for the price. (~$100)

https://www.golfworks.com/clubmakers-vise-graphite-shaft-extractor/p/ucmvgsr/

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On 10/18/2021 at 12:43 PM, dlow206 said:

Don't try to pull graphite shafts without a shaft puller, it usually doesn't end well

I tried with a shaft puller I just got in and it went poorly anyway. It was hard to get the shaft off, and I had to use my hands instead of the puller because the vice wasn't strong enough to hold the shaft as it pushed out the head.  Anyway, I ended up screwing up the graphite at the tips. I need to cut them off about an inch now, which won't work for my project. Luckily my friend wants to reshaft his old Bertha's and he's a good 1 to 2" in shaft length less than me, so it works out for both of us.  I'm just going to have him buy me new shafts and I'll just swap them in.

FWIW, it sucks pulling graphite shafts. It's hard to soften the epoxy and on one of them, I had to drill into the hosel because I couldn't pull the shaft cleanly.  Looks like it used a lot of my hosel brush trying to clean the hosel on just that one shaft removal too.  Definitely not a fan of shaft removal, at least not when they are graphite.

 

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6 hours ago, Pro-V-None said:

I tried with a shaft puller I just got in and it went poorly anyway. It was hard to get the shaft off, and I had to use my hands instead of the puller because the vice wasn't strong enough to hold the shaft as it pushed out the head.  Anyway, I ended up screwing up the graphite at the tips. I need to cut them off about an inch now, which won't work for my project. Luckily my friend wants to reshaft his old Bertha's and he's a good 1 to 2" in shaft length less than me, so it works out for both of us.  I'm just going to have him buy me new shafts and I'll just swap them in.

FWIW, it sucks pulling graphite shafts. It's hard to soften the epoxy and on one of them, I had to drill into the hosel because I couldn't pull the shaft cleanly.  Looks like it used a lot of my hosel brush trying to clean the hosel on just that one shaft removal too.  Definitely not a fan of shaft removal, at least not when they are graphite.

 

Which shaft puller did you get?

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On 10/18/2021 at 3:43 PM, dlow206 said:

Don't try to pull graphite shafts without a shaft puller, it usually doesn't end well

I can second this! Watched some videos online on how to do it without one and I ended up breaking the tip on a driver shaft. Maybe you can take them to a shop and they will pull the heads cheaper than buying your own puller.

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On 10/18/2021 at 6:12 PM, cnosil said:

I probably wouldn't do shafts on full swing clubs (although I might),  but I will do grips and anything with a putter since it doesn't move that fast and have the potential of flying down the course.  🙂

 

I had two club heads come off and a third come very loose from a set I had a professional builder do for me .. there’s always a risk when theirs a human element is involved 

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2 hours ago, Nolan220 said:

I had two club heads come off and a third come very loose from a set I had a professional builder do for me .. there’s always a risk when theirs a human element is involved 

All from the same build or separate builds from that same builder?

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1 hour ago, dlow206 said:

All from the same build or separate builds from that same builder?

same build .. I had the same fitter build another set before and no problems .. but for whatever reason this set the heads came off 

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24 minutes ago, Nolan220 said:

same build .. I had the same fitter build another set before and no problems .. but for whatever reason this set the heads came off 

Interesting, what clubs had the problem (brand/model)?

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Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 11/13/2021
Driver:titelist-small: TSi 2 - Autoflex
Fairway Woods:titelist-small: TSi2 3 wood, 5 wood - Aldila Ascent 60 S
Irons:titelist-small: T300 5 to SW - LAGP AXS Red 85 Stiff double soft stepped
Wedges:Miura: K-grind 2.0 58 wedge - Xcaliber RT Spin Wedge 100
Putter:  SIK DW Armlock - LAGP 180 armlock shaft

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1 hour ago, dlow206 said:

Interesting, what clubs had the problem (brand/model)?

Cobra F8 and Oban shafts … it look like there was not enough epoxy put on I got the two redone by the fitter and the one that was loose I redid my self 

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:cobra-small: King Speedzone Black Yellow Fairway 3 wood Tensei AV Blue 65 

:cobra-small: F9 SpeedBack Black Grey Fairway 5 Wood   :Fuji: ATMOS Tour Spec Blue 7 shaft

:titelist-small: T300 4i-GW - Tensei AV Blue AM2 Regular Flex  or :mizuno-small: JPX 900 Hot Metal 5 - GW Project X Lz 4.5 Regular Flex Graphite 

:ping-small:   Glide 2.0 SS Wedges 54 & 58 

:taylormade-small: TP Red White Ardmore Putter - BGT Stability Tour Black shaft 

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2 hours ago, Nolan220 said:

same build .. I had the same fitter build another set before and no problems .. but for whatever reason this set the heads came off 

I'd guess a badly mixed batch of epoxy since all were from the same build.  I always keep the piece of cardboard I mix the batch on around so I can see how it sets up the next day.  I had one batch stay soft one time and pulled the head, cleaned things up and re-epoxied it with a fresh batch.  I think that one would have flown off.  

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3 minutes ago, Shapotomous said:

I'd guess a badly mixed batch of epoxy since all were from the same build.  I always keep the piece of cardboard I mix the batch on around so I can see how it sets up the next day.  I had one batch stay soft one time and pulled the head, cleaned things up and re-epoxied it with a fresh batch.  I think that one would have flown off.  

Yeah that’s what the builder said, he built other irons for me before and no prob .. I still go to him but I was just saying even professionals hinge could happen … with that being said I would rather take my graphite shafts to a pro to get the heads removed .. I would be scared to damage the shafts 

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:cobra-small: F9 SpeedBack Black Grey Fairway 5 Wood   :Fuji: ATMOS Tour Spec Blue 7 shaft

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On 10/18/2021 at 7:40 PM, dlow206 said:

Never thought I would be "upgrading" from the Mitchell commercial puller, but got this thing on the way. 3000 pounds of thrust plus 700 pounds of compressed spring. 

https://www.golfworks.com/golf-mechanix-reverse-thrust-shaft-puller/p/gm1068/

Maybe I missed it in a previous post, but why the need to upgrade - primarily the spring pre-load?  

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1 hour ago, fixyurdivot said:

Maybe I missed it in a previous post, but why the need to upgrade - primarily the spring pre-load?  

For me, that was the primary driver. Needed to see for myself if that spring pre-load would provide a lot of benefit and it does. You just crank it to get the spring loaded, start heat, and the spring will push (actually pull for the reverse thrust) it off as soon as the epoxy is broken.

To me, it the spring-loaded style has the following benefits:

  • Overall, less heat required. 
  • If you get in a situation where a graphite shaft was installed too tight into a hosel or adapter, the spring will help.
  • I have actually had an instance where a steel shaft was a bit too tight (bad tolerances on the hosel), and twisting didn't help, the spring got it off

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Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver

Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Updated 11/13/2021
Driver:titelist-small: TSi 2 - Autoflex
Fairway Woods:titelist-small: TSi2 3 wood, 5 wood - Aldila Ascent 60 S
Irons:titelist-small: T300 5 to SW - LAGP AXS Red 85 Stiff double soft stepped
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Putter:  SIK DW Armlock - LAGP 180 armlock shaft

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2 hours ago, dlow206 said:

For me, that was the primary driver. Needed to see for myself if that spring pre-load would provide a lot of benefit and it does. You just crank it to get the spring loaded, start heat, and the spring will push (actually pull for the reverse thrust) it off as soon as the epoxy is broken.

To me, it the spring-loaded style has the following benefits:

  • Overall, less heat required. 
  • If you get in a situation where a graphite shaft was installed too tight into a hosel or adapter, the spring will help.
  • I have actually had an instance where a steel shaft was a bit too tight (bad tolerances on the hosel), and twisting didn't help, the spring got it off

That was my thinking as well when I opted for the Golfworks version.  It made sense to have some force working against the bond as it was heated - lowering the risk of overheating.  I looked at the unit you bought, and it looks well built, but just a bit more than I wanted to spend.  I haven't even tried mine yet but plan to when we get back to Montana next spring.

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:ping-small: Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW   (removed from double secret probation 😍)

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On 10/30/2021 at 2:21 AM, Pro-V-None said:

.... I need to cut them off about an inch now, which won't work for my project. Luckily my friend wants to reshaft his old Bertha's and he's a good 1 to 2" in shaft length less than me, so it works out for both of us.  I'm just going to have him buy me new shafts and I'll just swap them in.

 

Just be aware that cutting 1-2" off the tip end of the shaft is going to have a dramatic effect on how that shaft plays for your friend.  If these are parallel tip shafts and you're going to use the cut down shafts in the short irons then you're probably ok, but you definitely don't want to put a shaft that has been tipped 2" into a 5 iron....

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