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Well, the Rogue name is back.  Callaway is releasing the Rogue ST.  ST stands for Speed Tuned.  Three versions.  Rogue ST Rouge ST LS, and Rouge ST Max.  Matte Balck crown.  Black and gold color scheme that matches the Epic Star line.  Probably a February 2022 release.

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Matte black crown.  Don’t know which version has the weight forward.

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Will this replace the Epic line?

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26 minutes ago, Hook DeLoft said:

Will this replace the Epic line?

Shouldnt.  Rogue and Epic alternate release years.

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2 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

That matte black crown looks nice! 

My thoughts as well;  it's a great looking driver. Hopefully we'll see some early reviews on it.

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I was hoping for a different name.

Callaway seems to have Epic releases every 2 years.  In between, they've had one off named drivers, Rogue and Mavrik. 

   GBB Epic -> Rogue-> Epic Flash -> Mavrik -> Epic Max -> Rogue ST???

Rogue and Mavrik, while not synonyms, conjure images of a rebel who go against the grain.  Being weird as I am, I had been trying to guess what the next release was going to be named.  I had come up with "Ronin", "Renegade" or "Revolt (although not a noun)"  Other candidates I came up with were lamer, "Rebel", "Lone Wolf" "Villain" or "Dissident"

I guess Callaway ran out of cool words that means someone who goes against the grain.   Rogue ST?  Lame....

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Bro, do you even embargo?

 

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On 10/26/2021 at 4:02 AM, Hook DeLoft said:

Will this replace the Epic line?

 

Yes and no. This is the next release, and the epic line will be going away for a year. So this is the next release and will be replacing it from that stand point.  But, also technically no, because the epic line and this line are on two year alternating cycles. 

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Rec'd a Callaway email this morning and thought, "Okay, I'll bite and waste a few minutes..."  $550 MSRP and it doesn't include the wrench?!?  You know what you can do with that, Callaway.

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27 minutes ago, MGoBlue100 said:

Rec'd a Callaway email this morning and thought, "Okay, I'll bite and waste a few minutes..."  $550 MSRP and it doesn't include the wrench?!?  You know what you can do with that, Callaway.

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So this is coming from living in either a Canadian or Swiss Market and at least to me that doesn't seem that bad? For example Canadian market that same driver is $699 which with conversion is about $557 USD... then we get to Swiss. Same driver is 649 CHF which hold onto your hats, socks shoes and everything else is 712 USD... So it looks like you're getting the best possible price!

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I don't know that the price of the driver is out of touch with what other mfgs are charging, although I still think it's outrageous.  My point is that after paying that price for an ADJUSTABLE driver, Callaway can't include the wrench to adjust said driver, which probably costs them less than $1USD?!? 

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23 hours ago, MGoBlue100 said:

Rec'd a Callaway email this morning and thought, "Okay, I'll bite and waste a few minutes..."  $550 MSRP and it doesn't include the wrench?!?  You know what you can do with that, Callaway.

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Most all of us have a wrench or two laying around and they work on most brands.  If you have a good relationship at a local shop is not hard to get one if you order the clubs thru one of their accounts.  I am a Titleist guy myself and have never had an issue getting one, even though they do not advertise wrench included.  Have four bags and a wrench in each bag.  If you already have a wrench, sure it will work.  Hakuna matata.   

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I get what you're saying, and "yes" a lot of us do have various wrenches around the garage, shop, basement etc.  It just seems "cheap skate" to me that they want to charge that much cash, and don't include a wrench that likely costs them less than one American dollar to produce.  And, what of the buyer who FINALLY is going to make the leap into adjustable technology and doesn't have a wrench?  Now they have this new toy that they can't even play with because the manufacturer needs to get another $24.95 or whatever out of their pocket.  It's just a bad look in my opinion.  Any parent who has realized late on Christmas Eve that they don't have the "not included" batteries can relate.

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Callaway has a statement on their site linked from every driver page about why wrenches aren’t included. 

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10 hours ago, russtopherb said:

Callaway has a statement on their site linked from every driver page about why wrenches aren’t included. 

And what, pray tell could their rationale possibly be? Inquiring minds… 

"Where'd it go?"  "Right in the Lumberyard..."

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