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I have always neglected iron shafts and just played c taper lite 110g stiff shafts in my irons. I am hitting the ball way too high for my liking and want a more lower flight. So I got curious and tried the mizuno shaft optimizer at pga superstore on vacation.  Pretty cool little bluetooth gadget with interesting results. 

Driver SS is 115 and was carrying the 7 iron 170 yards consistently 

Also told me I would benefit getting a tensei ck pro white 70g xstiff driver shaft….thought that was cool.

Do you guys agree with the optimizers results and would I see a lower launching shaft with any of the choices??? Thanks for the help 

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37 minutes ago, TG8 said:

Do you guys agree with the optimizers results and would I see a lower launching shaft with any of the choices??? Thanks for the help 

 

The Optimizer is a great tool to help establish baselines for testing shafts and in general it seems to provide solid results.  Will those shafts help you lower flight?   The Optimizer simply looks at a database of people that have the same load profile as you do and lets you know shafts that generally work for them.  The next step is to hit clubs with those shafts and see if you get your desired ball flight.   

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I agree with CNOSIL, the Mizuno Optimizer is a great tool and a great place to start. I was fitted with the Mizuno Optimizer and then I started hitting balls with the suggested shafts. I found which one provided me with the flight I was looking for and went with it.  Incidentally, it was the first shaft on the list but I can tell you the next three were not providing the flight I wanted and then the 5th one would have worked also. I say this to point out that you definitely need to get in the hitting bay and determine which one performs the way you want.

 
To make certain the results were consistent, I used the Optimizer at the beginning of the session and again at the end. My results were very close and the shaft suggestions were identical. I was really impressed with the way the system worked. 
 
Has anyone else done this to verify the results and the consistency of the suggestions?
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Good to hear that the optimiser gives a good idea of what's needed. I'll be looking at new clubs soon and plan to have a Mizuno fitting with the SO. 

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Thanks guys ill use this as a guide when getting fitted this off-season(basically now in missouri). 
I did try the x100 when there and it was heavy feeling but I liked how it slowed my tempo down.  
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  • mizuno jpx919 hot metal pro 4-pw
  • cobra mim black 52 & 56 wedges
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8 minutes ago, TG8 said:

Thanks guys ill use this as a guide when getting fitted this off-season(basically now in missouri). 
I did try the x100 when there and it was heavy feeling but I liked how it slowed my tempo down.  
@cnosil @MC Mark

I think taking that into context about looking for a heavier shaft that gives you more feel vs staying with the x100

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... I had been fit as well as fitting myself over the years and knew exactly what worked for me. Mizuno wanted me to do a review of their new MP59's and wanted me to go through a fitting with one of their reps before building and sending me the clubs. First thing he did was have me take 3 swings with the optimizer and it came back with a first choice of: KB Tour S-Flex, 1/2" long and soft stepped once. The is exactly what I was playing in my MP63's. I was very impressed. Interesting to me, I had the same numbers as Luke Donald, just a little slower swing speed. The rep had me hit balls to make sure the trajectory and spin were where we needed them to be and they were, so all good. As others have said, it is a great place to start as it shows how you swing not so much how fast you swing. 

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Driver:     :cobra-small: LTDx 10.5* ... AD-IZ 6SR
Fairway:  :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 15/18* ... Tensei Raw Blue 65R
Utility:      :taylormade-small: UDi 18* ... Even Flow Black 85R
                 :taylormade-small: DHy 19* ... Diamana Ltd 65R
Irons:        :cobra-small: 4-Pw MIM Tour ... Steelfiber i95R
Wedges:   :taylormade-small: MG3 50*/MG3 58* LB ... Steelfiber i95R
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It’s definitely a good starting point. However, when I’ve done the optimizer in the past, I felt very uncomfortable over the ball. The club was too short and flat for me and I expect it affected my swing and the results. 

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Ping G425 Max

Callaway Epic Max 5 wood

Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees

Callaway Epic Max 11 wood

PXG 0311P Gen. 3  6-GW

PXG 0211 5-GW

PXG 0211 sand wedge bent to 53 degrees

Maltby M Series+ 54 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree

Evnroll ER2

Ping Sigma 2 Anser

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20 minutes ago, Hook DeLoft said:

It’s definitely a good starting point. However, when I’ve done the optimizer in the past, I felt very uncomfortable over the ball. The club was too short and flat for me and I expect it affected my swing and the results. 

 

... Always interesting how set ups effect our swings and mental outlook. Outdoors at fittings my driver swing speed is around 95-98 but indoors it has been as low as 85. I am a target oriented player and not seeing my target and concentrating on my trajectory and where I want my drive to land always feels very strange to me. I think golf shot not golf swing and when there is no golf shot to hit, seems I just don't swing the club very well. 

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Fairway:  :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 15/18* ... Tensei Raw Blue 65R
Utility:      :taylormade-small: UDi 18* ... Even Flow Black 85R
                 :taylormade-small: DHy 19* ... Diamana Ltd 65R
Irons:        :cobra-small: 4-Pw MIM Tour ... Steelfiber i95R
Wedges:   :taylormade-small: MG3 50*/MG3 58* LB ... Steelfiber i95R
Putter:      :cleveland-small: Hunting Beach Soft 11S 33.5"
Ball:           :taylormade-small: Maxfli Tour '22/TP5x '21

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1 minute ago, chisag said:

 

... Always interesting how set ups effect our swings and mental outlook. Outdoors at fittings my driver swing speed is around 95-98 but indoors it has been as low as 85. I am a target oriented player and not seeing my target and concentrating on my trajectory and where I want my drive to land always feels very strange to me. I think golf shot not golf swing and when there is no golf shot to hit, seems I just don't swing the club very well. 

I can see that.  For some reason, when I look at an iron that is flatter than I normally play, I am convinced I won’t be able to hit it. 

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14 of the following:

Ping G425 Max

Callaway Epic Max 5 wood

Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees

Callaway Epic Max 11 wood

PXG 0311P Gen. 3  6-GW

PXG 0211 5-GW

PXG 0211 sand wedge bent to 53 degrees

Maltby M Series+ 54 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree

Evnroll ER2

Ping Sigma 2 Anser

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As others have said the optimizer is an awesome place to start. Really important to see how it performs on grass and for a variety of different shots. Like understanding how easy it is to flight it or hit a high draw or fade if needed. 

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Irons:  :callaway-small: Apex TCB 5-AW X100 :titelist-small: T100 4 iron X100

Wedges: :vokey-small: SM8 54.12 X100 & 60.08 Modus 125 Wedge

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