Hook DeLoft Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 I ask because it seems every time I hit a Ping demo iron it seems heavy. For example, I recently hit a Mizuno head on a Modus 105 shaft and it felt noticeably lighter than a Ping G425 head on a Ping AWT shaft. And the Modus shaft was a half inch longer. Rickp 1 Quote 14 of the following: Ping G430 Max 10.5 degree Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Mizuno 923 JPX HM HL 6-GW Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Hook DeLoft said: I ask because it seems every time I hit a Ping demo iron it seems heavy. For example, I recently hit a Mizuno head on a Modus 105 shaft and it felt noticeably lighter than a Ping G425 head on a Ping AWT shaft. And the Modus shaft was a half inch longer. Someone should be able to answer this, I’m curious also. Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 I went to the Golfworks playability table, and the 425 head was 10 grams LIGHTER than the Mizuno. So that doesn’t explain. At least not in the particular heads Golfworks measured. It occurs to me that Ping counter balances their graphite shafts. Do they do that with the steel AWT? Also, the Mizuno head was a yellow number fitting head. I thought that indicated 2 degrees up. Could it indicate a lighter head? Quote 14 of the following: Ping G430 Max 10.5 degree Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Mizuno 923 JPX HM HL 6-GW Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hook DeLoft said: I went to the Golfworks playability table, and the 425 head was 10 grams LIGHTER than the Mizuno. So that doesn’t explain. At least not in the particular heads Golfworks measured. It occurs to me that Ping counter balances their graphite shafts. Do they do that with the steel AWT? Also, the Mizuno head was a yellow number fitting head. I thought that indicated 2 degrees up. Could it indicate a lighter head? I had Mizuno 919 & Ping G710 irons. The Pings do feel heavier, both irons had same shafts. Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I'm not all that familiar with the weight of Ping heads but the OEMs should list the head weight under specs on their websites. That said, you may also want to look into the profiles of the individual shafts and build specs of the Pings vs Mizuno. Assuming the shafts are in the same weight class, they could have different balance points which could make the swingweight heavier or lighter. Sometimes they build clubs with tip weights as to get the swingweight up which can help with how the club feels through the swing. Also if the ping was so much as .25" longer, that will change the swingweight to feel heavier. And lastly, if the grip on one shaft vs the other is lighter 10g which is very common, that could add 2 swingweight points and a slightly noticeable difference. Bottom line is that there could be a few variables at play here. Hopefully this at least have you a few leads as to how to find the difference between the 2. Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Here are my .02 . The yellow color code on the Pine Fitting Iron head indicates that is is weighted for an overlength build. Typically, these heads are lighter so that the swingweight of a longer or graphite club build will feel normal. For completed builds direct from Ping, you can request heavier or lighter heads. There is some wiggle room on the builds. I hope this helps. **I only know this because I worked for a top 100 fitter for 15 years** Quote Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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