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  1. 1. Are you over-thinking the game?

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5 hours ago, NC Golfer said:

Wouldn't we all just love to step up and swing? I suspect some can pull it off. Others can't, that why there's golf instruction. With that said, what prevents me from just swinging my swing, is the thought that the downswing must start from the ground up. I have difficulty with this. But, still believe in it. What do you think? Must the swing start with a lower body part (feet, knees, hips up to the core, shdrs. arms, club etc)

you can swing however you want but sequencing correctly makes the swing work better.   would you start a ball throwing motion from anywhere other than the ground?  you can do it but cant throw it very far. 

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I’m a chronic over-thinker in life: I try not to duplicate that on the golf course.  Over time I’ve learned to turn off my brain before I step into a shot: I never thought about my form or footwork while  throwing a football or shooting a free throw in a game, practice was where I thought about technique.  I try to bring that idea to the course. Once I begin to take the club back I want to be an athlete, not a thinker. 

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33 minutes ago, stephenmatt said:

Part of who I am as a person is an overthinker. I love this game so much so it would be almost impossible for me to not overthink it and overcomplicate it. Sometimes it makes the game more frustrating than it has to be.

 

On 12/9/2021 at 12:30 AM, Micah T said:

I’m a chronic over-thinker in life: I try not to duplicate that on the golf course.  Over time I’ve learned to turn off my brain before I step into a shot: I never thought about my form or footwork while  throwing a football or shooting a free throw in a game, practice was where I thought about technique.  I try to bring that idea to the course. Once I begin to take the club back I want to be an athlete, not a thinker. 

Part of thinking, or cognition, is metacognition, or thinking about our thinking. If we realize that thinking too much is hurting us, then we need to think about not thinking so much and take action on that thought. We must limit our thoughts only to those that are actually helpful in what we are trying to accomplish, eliminating those that are not helpful. This is true in every aspect of life, not just golf. We can never have complete control over what thoughts enter our mind, but we do have nearly complete control over what to do with them, process them or immediately dismiss them. With practice, we can dismiss them so quickly that they have no effect on us.

What I'm saying is if you truly are an overthinker, you should be able to think yourself into not thinking so much. Metacognition is a fabulous tool. Learn to use it. 

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I definitey over think it. Some say, they just swing the club, But, I think there must be some body parts that need to move a certain way like start the downswing with the hips. I wish I could get this down to only one swing thought or better yet - none. But, I can't stop thinking about it, lol. 

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Not at all. And maybe that is why I feel so level headed on the golf course. It’s just me versus the score card. I haven’t been subjected to online lessons / YouTube instructors / or people who have this one size fits all secret to sub 70 golf mojo. 
 

im from the school of take what you have to the course and learn thru playing the game. Versus, taking endless lessons with little to no return on investments 

would have to add that if one was going to go down analyzing this game heavily. And you had a swing coach. My suggestions would be will this work lead to straighter shots / longer drives / and most importantly lower scores. If not , or if the process is years and years of getting ideal golf camera positions. Than my answer would be why bother. That really isn’t golf. Having a perfect looking golf swing never has any factor on what scores are on the card 

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Know what?? I do not like timing of year end as people start accusing me of "How To Golf" Reading & Thinking. & that Sport's Fans is a scary thought.!!

Like a few people here I played Hockey & even played in MLG & sometimes I scored & sometimes I didn't. I just learned to play Smarter

& sometimes it worked & sometimes it didn't.  Took me awhile, from having Hair to not having, to recognize "WIN" as in "What's Important Now"!!

That has brought me smiling & Ah-Ching!! Ah-Ching!!

Happy Holidays!!

& Stay Safe. 

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This is one of those questions that has a binary conclusion built into the answer and as a result may or may not add any identifiable value to one’s game.

To start what does overthink even mean? Is it time spent over the ball or is it the time spent getting ready to get over the ball and all the other things pre address?

Do the pros and their caddies overthink when they discuss a shots a half dozen environmental inputs, club choices and trajectory options?

So what is the problem that you think needs solving  and that the question begs an answer for ? Slow play, inconsiderate etiquette, wrong or wasteful thinking or ……?


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Overthinking is a huge part of many games, myself included. I am a fan of listening to the Par Train. They talk a lot about the mental aspect, as I believe it's a big part of Evan's work background. I often start the day pretty quiet, and the noise gets louder. I think the majority of everyone's handicap could drop multiple shots (depending on current handicap) if we could all think less. I agree with a comment above. I've recently played with a 15 who thinks he can shoot at the flag stick every time. I'm about a 5 with 35 years golf experience and have found the more I play, the worse it gets. 

When my wife asked if I wanted to leave Maine and move to where she grew up, I couldn't say no to Pinehurst, NC. I honestly don't spend much money on golf equipment, but I'm constantly reading reviews in case I ever get ready to buy

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I was playing great golf in April but I had 5 swing thoughts and I felt that was too many. Tried for a few months with just one or two and my game got so much worse.

Returned to the five thoughts this last month and I'm playing my best golf of the year!

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1 hour ago, singleta said:

I was playing great golf in April but I had 5 swing thoughts and I felt that was too many. Tried for a few months with just one or two and my game got so much worse.

Returned to the five thoughts this last month and I'm playing my best golf of the year!

Tough to say too many if they are simple keys to establishing a good grips, setup, and swing.  Having a long checklist of items that breakdown the swing into multiple steps is probably too many.  What are your 5 thoughts?   

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I think about a lot of things impacting a shot when coming up to an approach shot to a green but I am not overwhelmed into swing paralysis or slow play by them.  When it comes to the swing, I might have a single swing thought about something I have had to work through in recent rounds.  Right now it's maintain shaft lean on iron shots and finish with my hands high on driver swings and shoulder alignment on putts.

Coming up to an approach shot I consider distance, elevation change, wind, stance angle, ball lie & turf direction, pin placement, green slope, hazards, best/worse miss location, club selection, shot shape, shot height & proper swing to pull it off, one maybe two 3/4 practice swings while thinking of those things & visualizing the shot and picking a target.....then swing.  Never timed myself but I am sure it takes less than a minute.  

Driver takes a lot less time as I usually play the same shot shape.  I take two practice swings to loosen my back, pick a target and swing.  Might be an extra 10 seconds if I am figuring distance to a hazard or dogleg, shaping it differently or practicing a stinger swing or something similar.

Typical round for my wife & I is 2:45 so it doesn't seem to be slowing us down.  

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Today I played with back to the target on the backswing and get to the left (target side) - through swing. Great ball striking day with just two thoughts. This takes care of the turn and prevents from hitting off the back foot on the DS. I think great suggestions for beginners or sr's too 🙂, without getting too technical.

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20 hours ago, Bulldog said:

Favorite sign in a pro shop a local course, "It's not a space shuttle, it's a ball and a stick."

Some truth to that, but just hang with this us for a bit longer and you'll see the error in that statement 😆.

19 hours ago, Birdiecock said:

With rare exception...

Stay.  Away.  From.  YouTube. 

 

That should help.

What about our forum members "swing in progress" clips?

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On 12/16/2021 at 12:54 PM, cnosil said:

Tough to say too many if they are simple keys to establishing a good grips, setup, and swing.  Having a long checklist of items that breakdown the swing into multiple steps is probably too many.  What are your 5 thoughts?   

Turn shoulders to line them up with the target line (I naturally stand with them very open), squeeze shoulder blades together, low takeaway, keep shoulder blades squeezed, keep lower body still (i.e don't slide back from the target) swing in-to-out (my natural swing is out to in so this thought helps to neutralise the path)

Then watch it sail down the fairway with a gentle fade 🤞

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